Archbp. Nienstedt on being Catholic

USAToday has an article on Archbp. John Nienstedt of St. Paul and Minneapolis:

Minn. archbishop: No ‘lukewarm’ Catholics welcome

Archbp. NienstedtST. PAUL (AP) — The Catholic archbishop for the Twin Cities defended his right Monday to speak to fellow Catholics on social issues, and said a shrinking Roman Catholic church is no reason to consider a more liberal stance. [Which should apply also to issues that don’t directly concern morals.]

Archbishop John Nienstedt sat down with The Associated Press after a weekend in which the St. Paul-Minneapolis Archdiocese announced it would close 21 churches to reflect churchgoers’ move from urban areas to suburbia, declines in regular church attendance and an expectation of fewer new priests to replace those who retire or die.

The archbishop, who recently angered some of the area’s 800,000 Catholics with the mailing of an anti-gay marriage DVD, [Does this reveal a bias in reporting?  It could have been written “encouraged some of the area’s Catholics”.] said he believes spiritual leaders have a duty to talk to their flock about issues they see as important — even if some of those views might be unpopular with prospective churchgoers.

We’re part and parcel of the culture, [though not in an unqualified way] so it’s important for us to be involved with those discussions and have our say,” [Do I hear an “Amen!”?  This is what WDTPRS has been talking about incessantly.  There are powerful forces trying to drive the Church with her voice out of the public square.  We must not surrender that ground.  We have a right to be heard.] Nienstedt said. He said Jesus Christ directed his followers to “either be hot or cold, but if you’re lukewarm, I don’t want that. So we want people who live their faith.”

Nienstedt called the reorganization, which also will involve dozens more churches sharing priests and some staff and resources, “a reconfiguring of resources to meet our needs and mission.” But he said Catholics need not fear a smaller church, and the threat of one is not a reason to abandon core tenets.

“I believe that it’s important that if you’re going to be Catholic, that you have to be 100% Catholic,” [Do I hear an “Amen!”?] Nienstedt said. “That you stand by the church, you believe what the church believes and you pass that on to your sons and daughters and your grandsons and granddaughters.”

The Rev. Mike Tegeder, lead pastor at St. Edward Catholic Church in Bloomington and a frequent critic of the archbishop, said he was puzzled [I am sure he would be puzzled.  When it comes to the Faith it is hard to understand things you don’t believe.  Nisi credideritis non intelligetis.] by the term “100 percent Catholic.” [Great witness, Tegeder.]

“The church has always gotten into trouble when it seeks to separate the pure from the impure,” said Tegeder, whose suburban congregation emerged unscathed [pity] from the reorganization plans. “Jesus cautions us to be careful in weeding and judging.”

Tegeder and some other priests have argued the Catholic Church could quickly resolve its problem with declining numbers of priests if it allowed married clergy. But “I personally don’t see that happening,” Nienstedt said.

One church on the list of those to be closed and merged with several nearby churches is St. Clement, in Minneapolis. its pastor, the Rev. Earl Simonson, said he’s not sure if the building will actually shut down or still be used for some services, though under the archdiocese’s approach it will at minimum lose its name. [Ummm…. perhaps the parish will be suppressed, but a church cannot lose the name it was consecrated with unless approval is obtained from the Congregation for Divine Worship.]

“We just wait for the great archbishop to tell us what we’re doing,” Simonson said. “We’re mere flunkies.” [That’s not bitter.]

Still, Simonson did not take issue with Nienstedt’s conviction that smaller isn’t necessarily less desirable for the Catholic Church.

“That’s what I was taught in seminary,” Simonson said. “If you don’t want to be Catholic, then get out. The archbishop is right about that. Human nature being what it is, you’ll always have some who think they can be half in and half out.”

It must be a horrible decision to close parishes.   It leads one to question whether or not it is time to think outside the box.

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QUAERITUR: parent won’t attend wedding without SSPX priest

From a reader:

My Fiancée’s family is SSPX. Since coming to college she has realized the error in their beliefs, so she is no longer SSPX.

We are planning on getting married next november We would absolutely love to get married with a latin mass but her dad will not come to a mass said by anyone not SSPX. Needless to say we would not have an SSPX priest say our mass.

So, our choices are: get married with only a ceremony, her dad would attend this even when said by a roman catholic priest, or have a mass that some of her family would not attend.

First, I notice that you do not mention either your or her parish priest, the pastor of the parishes or parish you attend now.  If she is no longer attending a chapel of the SSPX, then she must be going to some parish or otherwise approved chapel.  It may be possible, because of the dynamics of her family that you could have the old Mass for the nuptial Mass.  But you have to get involved with the parish priest.  In fact, you have to get involved with the parish priest anyway.

Second, while it is nice to have everyone be happy with everything, that is not why people get married.  You get married because you think it is your vocation and God’s will.  It is not her father’s vocation.

Third, if there is a possibility of a wedding ceremony without a Mass, then perhaps that is the best way to go if you cannot find a priest willing to say the older Mass for you for your wedding.  It may be that the SSPX priest would be willing to attend.

I am sorry that you must go through this sort of thing.  However, you have chosen well to pursue marriage within the bounds, formally, of the Catholic Church.  For a wedding to be licit and valid, the the proper form for marriage must be observed.  Part of the proper form for marriage is having a witness recognized by the Church.  SSPX priests do not have the permission of the Church to witness marriages.  Your local parish priest does, however.

I hope this works out peacefully.

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POLL ALERT: WSJ on clerical celibacy and abuse of children

For your opportune knowledge, the Wall Street Journal is running an online poll today.

At the time of this writing these are the results:

UPDATE 1903 GMT:

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Oh the … arbority!

My friend Fr. Ray Blake, the great P.P. of St. Mary Magdalen in Brighton has a new angle on the problem of writer’s for liberal Catholic publications who threaten to sue people who point out the flaws in their theology.  Here is Fr. Blake with my emphases:

If this is libelous please let me know and I will change it or even remove it.

I am not really into the ways of the world, and certainly not of the newspaper industry but after having received a rather curt note dismissive note from the edit[or] of the Catholic Times, Mr Kevin Flaherty, I thought I would look at the numbers of his newspapers which we sold here, actually it is 1 or 2 a copies a week, yet Total Catholic Publications send us 12 copies a week leaving us with 10 or 11 copies, as for The Universe from the same Total Catholic stable they send us 22 copies of which we sell on average only 4 or 5. This seems to have been going on for years.

The Catholic Herald seems to adjusts its deliveries according to sales, but not the Catholic Times or The Universe, they have been sending us what the choose. We are not charged for unsolds, indeed we are asked to distribute the unsold copies free to the sick, though the last thing the sick want is to read these publications so we normally throw them away which in Green Brighton means we have to pay to get rid of them every few months.

I am forced to ask are these two papers claiming vastly inflated circulation figures in order to attract advertising? The Catholic Times I understand claims a circulation of 20,000 but if you go by my parish’s figures the actual paying readership they have would be about 2,000. The Universe claims to be the largest selling Catholic paper in the UK but if the figures are in line with the Catholic Times’, does it really have a hard copy circulation of much more than 5 or 6,000?

By accepting much larger numbers of these two papers than are likely to be sold, there is a dreadful waste and an “ecological sin”, think of those trees going to waste to produce unwanted newspapers but also parish clergy are actually unwittingly complicit in a possible scam, fraud is possibly too strong a word, against unwitting advertisers, who pay for advertising based on wholly inaccurate circulation figures, if that is so it would be gravely sinful!

Later today I will ensure there is is no more than a 10% and I would recommend other priests to do the same and parishioners to question why there might be large quantities of unsold Catholic papers at the backs of their churches.

Something must be done!

Will this madness never end?

For the love of God and our PLANET… save the TREES!

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Don’t like the new translation? You have an option!

The discontents who are whining about the new translation as being deficient or flawed or ugly or mean or vulgar or awkward always have an option.

Ignore the new translation and just use Latin.

Latin can protect you from the affliction of vulgarity.

The Laudator has an interesting entry on this:

Nicolás Gómez Dávila (1913-1994), Escolios a un Texto Implícito: Selección (Bogotá: Villegas Editores, 2001), p. 334 (tr. by Stephen at Don Colacho’s Aphorisms):

The classical languages have educational value because they are safe from the vulgarity with which modern life corrupts the languages that are in use.

Las lenguas clásicas tienen valor educativo porque están a salvo de la vulgaridad con que la vida moderna corrompe las lenguas en uso.

Marc Antoine Muret (1526-1585), Orationes, vol. 2, no. 22, included in A. Springhetti, Selecta Latinitatis Scripta (saec. xv-xx) (Rome, 1951):

Therefore those languages that depend on the whim of the ignorant multitude die each day, and are born each day. But those languages that the usage of learned men has rescued from the slavery of the crowd not only are alive, but have in a certain way achieved immortality and immutability.

Illae igitur linguae quotidie moriuntur, quotidie nascuntur, quae pendent ex libidine imperitae multitudinis: quas autem ex populi servitute eruditorum usus vindicavit, illae non vivunt tantum, sed immortalitatem quodammodo et immutabilitatem adeptae sunt.

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Something in the Air, I fear

Hmmmm

New Macbook Air.

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Which titular churches will the new Cardinals receive?

Cardinals are the Pope’s special Roman clergy.  Historically they were the deacons and priests of diaconal and presbyteral “titles” (parishes) of Rome, while the cardinal bishops were bishops of little dioceses nearby.   The College of Cardinals is still divided into the three orders of bishop, priest and deacon.  Cardinals these days are nearly always consecrated bishops, but they still fall into these orders depending on which cardinalatial title they receive.

The new Cardinals will need their own titular churches in Rome.  The titles will be released close to the consistory itself.

Usually when men are made Cardinal they receive a presbyteral title if they are diocesan bishops somewhere.  They become Cardinal priests.  Men who are in the Roman Curia are given diaconal titles as Cardinal deacons.  Men are raised to be Cardinal bishop if they come, for example, to be Prefect of one of the most important Congregations, such as the “Suprema” (CDF).

Eventually, each Cardinal must go to take possession of his titular church, which he does accompanied by an special “notary” monsignor as a witness for the papal household.

Right now there are 33 titular churches vacant in Rome.

I an assuming His Future Eminence Raymond S.R.E. future-Card. Burke will be appointed to a diaconal title.  He was a diocesan bishop, but is not now.

Here are diaconal titles that are open, among them some of Rome’s most ancient churches:

  • S. Agata de’ Goti
  • S. Anselmo all’Aventino
  • S. Maria in Aquiro
  • S. Maria in Cosmedin
  • SS. Nome di Gesù e Maria in Via Lata
  • S. Teodoro
  • Ss. Vito, Modesto e Crescenzia

It should be interesting to see how this goes.

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National Catholic Reporter bitter about CARDINAL Burke (I repeat … CARDINAL)

National Catholic FishwrapHis Holiness of Our Lord Pope Benedict XVI has seen fit to name Archbishop Raymond Burke a Cardinal of Holy Church.

The National Catholic Fishwrap is not very pleased.

They won’t take the swipe directly.  They use surrogates.

Tom Roberts reprints something from a priest Milwaukee, Fr. James Connell, who threw a little nutty about Burke’s appointment calling it “unfortunate and disconcerting.”

They have together, and I think you’ll agree, earned the WDTPRS Bitter Fruit Award.

Bitter Fruit

The attack on soon-to-be-CARDINAL Burke has to do with the Dallas Charter.

The Milwaukee priest thinks Burke did something wrong regarding those provisions, that Burke disregarded the Church’s laws.  Most people will simply scoff at that.  I will go so far as to suggest that Archbp. Burke probably understood the parameters of the Dallas Charter and his own role as diocesan bishop pretty well.

The Milwaukee priest also thinks that Burke was unreasonable in requiring that people who make an accusation against a priest should have to offer proof.

Furthermore, the Milwaukee priest notes that the laws Burke set down for the Diocese of LaCrosse way back when are still on the diocesan website today.  We might point out that Burke hasn’t been bishop there for a long time now.

We might also point out that this Milwaukee priest is actually criticizing his own ordinary in Milwaukee.  The present Archbishop of Milwaukee H.E. Most REv. Jerome Listecki, was Burke’s successor in LaCrosse.  Listecki chose to keep Burke’s norms.  Thus, Fr. James Connell is also attacking Archbp. Listecki.

The priest in Milwaukee didn’t think this through very well before sending his attack on Burke to the NCR.   NCR was nevertheless happy to use it to attack Archbp. Burke, thus instrumentalizing that priest in his naivete.

This should play well for subscribers of the National Catholic Fishwrap.

UPDATE:

Check out Fr. Sotelo’s comment, below.

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Death of a comet and meteors from Orion

From Spaceweather:

SUNDIVING COMET: A newly-discovered comet is plunging toward the sun for a close encounter it probably will not survive.  The comet is too deep in the sun’s glare for human eyes to pick out, but it is showing up nicely in coronagraph images from the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory.  Visit http://spaceweather.com for latest movies.

ORIONID METEOR SHOWER:  Earth is passing through a stream of debris from Halley’s Comet, and this is causing the annual Orionid meteor shower.  Bright moonlight is reducing the number of visible meteors; nevertheless, sky watchers are reporting some bright Orionids.  The best time to look is during the hours before local dawn on Thursday, Oct. 21st, and again on Friday, Oct. 22nd.   Check http://spaceweather.com for a sky map and more information.

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What is your good news?

Holy Church had some good news today.

Do you have good news of your own?

My good news includes the replacement of the Sabine electrical box, which was so eccentric that it was going to burst into flame at any moment.  I will not die in a sparking inferno of electrical death … today, at least.  Included is a surge protector that can take 150K joules.  I am still getting my mind around that.

I also saw a cool sundog.

sundog

Also, I received via snail mail another intricate print by Daniel Mitsui, who has a blog entitled The Lion and the Cardinal.

This is of The Last Judgment.

The detail is amazing, as we have come to expect from Mr. Mitsui.

Once again, this is a good print for one’s own reflection on The Four Last Things.

Note in this detail… sorry about the shadow… you see the damned.  For you fans of the papal tiara a Pope is among them.  Into the big crunching maw they go, to their eternal despair and agony.

The whole is set about with text from the Dies irae.

Another detail.

If you are thinking about gifts yet, you might consider Mr. Mitsui’s prints.

His religious art page here.

Beyond this, I must also thank some of you readers for this that have been sent me through my amazon Wish List.  Among you benefactors are

TS for volumes of the English translation of the sermons of St. Augustine (ss. 230-272, ss. 151-183). TC send another volume (ss 2–50)  SC sent The Old Mass and the New: Explaining the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum of Pope Benedict XVI. I have a few more which I will get to soon.

Please know that these are all deeply appreciated, as are your donations through the button on the sidebar and on some posts.   It is my duty and pleasure to pray for benefactors.

On Friday 22 October, I will say Holy Mass for the intention of benefactors, taking a list with me of those who have been so good as to send support in so many ways.

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