ASK FATHER: When do traditional Catholics throw in the towel?

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

I have been engaged in a deep theological and spiritual crisis for 10 years now, struggling to remain Catholic or finally cross the Bosphorus and convert to Orthodoxy. [pffffft] It seems that with every passing day, Modern Catholicism continues its precipitous decline. How do we reverse it all? What outreach is being performed to open the closed minds of modern conservative Catholics?

Here is the point of my question: when do traditional Catholics throw in the towel? When is there a moment of realization that the Roman Church will never return to traditional worship, praxis, and teaching?

When is there a realization that no matter what they do, traditional Catholics wil not turn the tide?

I am fearful, anxious, and confused. Thank you and God bless.

Throw. In. The.  TOWEL?!?

NEVER!

NEH-VER!

Christ, God Man, Second Person of the Trinity, Eternal Word, Truth, Love and Light Itself founded the Catholic Church. Why would you want to belong to any other?

Is there dysfunction?  Sure.  Do you think there isn’t dysfunction among the Orthodox?  Don’t make me laugh.  I’ll take our dysfunction any day.

Hell attacks the Church – the CATHOLIC Church -that GOD FOUNDED with all its relentless fury and the Devil is very good at what he does.   The very fact that Hell attacks the Church so furiously is a demonstration of WHO and WHAT the Church is.

Today in the Traditional Form of the Roman Rite we heard St. Peter warn us that the Devil is like a roaring lion seeking whom he might devour.  It is the sole desire of the Enemy to steal souls from heaven so that God will have just that much less glory, that there will be just that much less joy.  Therefore, the Enemy targets the Church that Christ founded, through whose mediation every soul is saved.

“But Father! But Father!, some trads whimper.  “Things are – *sniffle* – going so wr-wr-wrong now!  I need a s-s-safe space and hug.”  And the Libs, agents of the Enemy that they are chortle back “HA HA FATHER! You and your stupid Zed Heads hate VATICAN II!  And we know what the spirit of Vatican II wants.  Enough with sin and guilt! Enough with verticality!  Enough with oppressive patriarchalism!  Enough with claims of ‘truth’! Aren’t all faiths the same?  We are all grown up now and don’t need any controls.  In the spirit of Vatican II go ahead and leave.  Make our job of tearing everything down that much easier.”

B as in B, S as in S.  Toughen up and RESIST what they are do to our Church.  Such enemies of God have always been in the Church.  If there are enemy armies occupying our fatherland then be the maquis!  To conscript the language of the Left we need to form our own base communities and resistance bands and fight back.

If we see someone wounded, we run fast to help.  We open our veins to give blood in times of emergency. When we see people who are on fire or being attacked, we run towards the gunfire, towards the blaze.

Prepare for battle!

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Some of you are in the front lines where the clash is.  Some will be in the supporting ranks, where the binding of wounds takes place.  Some will be on supply lines.  Some will provide QRF.  Some will be on oversight.  Some will provide command and control.  We all have to step up and own who we are as Catholics and own our vocations.

We must own our missions and our roles.

If we focus on our individual pain – boo hoo hoo! – we won’t serve our cause well and we’ll let our brother beside us down..

So, put aside some food and fast.  Set aside some money for almsgiving.  Turn off some program, dig that Rosary out of your pocket and PRAY – its a mighty weapon. GO TO CONFESSION!

Let us be warriors together, not worriers separated.

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VIDEO Edward Pentin and Fr. Murray on the Five Dubia of the Four Cardinals

Here is a great video for your information.

Ed Pentin, arguably the best English-language Vaticanista in Rome right now is interviewed.

Fr. Murray begins his remarks at 10:00 (don’t miss it).

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Is Communion now “we get the white thing in our hands and then we sing the song”?

There is a virus-like fixation pandemic in the Church today that everyone has to go to Communion at every Mass.  Therefore, even if there are people present manifestly in living in a state of mortal sin, spectacular contortions of doctrine and law are pretzeled together to justify what has NEVER been justified in the history of the Church: saying openly that the unconfessed Catholic in the state of mortal sin who does not have a firm purpose of amendment can be admitted to the sacraments.  If there is a mega-Mass, such as a papal Mass, astonishing lengths are attempted to get a Host out there to every single sincere and pious communicant, as well as the reacher-grabber and souvenir collector.

Of all the words I can think of to describe this, “reverent” isn’t one of them.

I don’t blame the unquestioning organizers… much.  They are infected with this aforementioned virus.  No… I guess I do blame them.  They should know better.

Today I reminded that The Great One, His Eminence Robert Card. Sarah, Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments (which covers how Mass should be celebrated, how to preserve its reverent character, its holiness, its power to communicate what the Perfect Communicator wants to give to the world) has remarked on mega-Masses.

From InfoVaticana comes this with my usual treatment (not my translation but touched up):

Cardinal Sarah denounces mega-masses “with thousands of attendees”

“Men and women in adultery and unbaptized tourists who participate in eucharistic celebrations of anonymous crowds can receive without distinction the Body and Blood of Christ.” This is the situation that warns Cardinal Robert Sarah, prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, in his book The Force of Silence.  [Also in SPANISH – HERE]

Cardinal Sarah emphasizes the need for the Church to study with urgency “the ecclesial and pastoral suitability of these multitudinous eucharistic celebrations with thousands of attendees.” For the Guinean cardinal, today there is an immense danger of converting the Eucharist “into a vulgar verbena [open-air dance]” and of desecrating the Body and Blood of Christ.

“The priests who distribute the sacred species without knowing anyone and give the body of Jesus to anyone, without distinguishing Christians from non-Christians, participate in the profanation of the Holy Eucharistic Sacrifice,” says in his book The Force of Silence.  [The priest in large parishes can’t know every person who comes to Communion, but in that context it is often easy to tell who isn’t Catholic (by their behavior).  But the situation of mega-Masses… well.  Also, I note that Eastern congregations are often small enough that the priest can say people’s names as they present themselves for Communion.]

The prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship warns that “with some voluntary complicity,” those who exercise authority in the church are guilty of permitting the sacrilege and desecration of the Body of Christ “in those gigantic and ridiculous self-celebrations, where there are very few who realize that the death of the Lord is announced until he comes.”

Sarah also regrets that some “priests unfaithful to the memory of Jesus” insist more on the festive aspect of the Mass than on the bloody sacrifice of Christ on the Cross. [ANAXIOS!] “The importance of the interior dispositions and the necessity to reconcile with God accepting to allow us to be purified by the sacrament of the confession are no longer in fashion,” concludes the prelate.

I’m afraid that, for many – even for many priests and even bishops – Communion is now the moment we get the white thing in our hands and then we sing the song.

The “White Thing” is a sign that people like me here.  Hence, if I can’t have the “White Thing” before we sing the song, I don’t feel good about myself in this setting… and that’s bad.  The “White Thing” in the hand is the token that this is a “safe space”.

The moderation queue is ON.

Just as a reminder, here’s Communion at a mega-Mass in Manila in 2015 during Pope Francis’ visit.

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Distribution from plastic cups at Rio for Pope Francis’s World Youth Day Mass 2013.

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Your Sunday Sermon Notes

Was there a good point made in the sermon you heard during the Holy Mass in fulfillment your of Sunday Obligation? Let us know.

Here’s what I said (below).  This Sunday took me by surprise.  I had assumed that I didn’t have this Sunday’s TLM since I was supposed to be out of town.  Probably at the prompting of my guardian angel, I doubled checked the schedule!  “Well!”, quoth I, “let’s see what happens!”.  I read the orations. I read the readings.  I penned three notes and I promptly went to bed in preparation for a 6 am rising. This was on pretty much on the fly.  I don’t recommend this method for younger priests, by the way.

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His Hermeneuticalness on St John Fisher

john fisherWith delight I report that my good friend, His Hermeueticalness, Fr. Tim Finigan has taken up his electronic pen more regularly than before his heart problems knocked him down… slacker.

Here’s a bit of his great offering about St. John Fisher, whose feast with St. Thomas More, we observed a couple days ago.

[…] I do agree with Thomas Craughwell at the National Catholic Register that “Fisher needs is his own version of A Man for All Seasons—a big, gorgeously filmed, beautifully written, destined-to-be-a-classic film, with an all-English cast.”  [With an of film credit role song by Adele?   NOT.]

I would suggest Mel Gibson, but somebody would have to stop him from reducing it to a piece of anti-English propaganda with gallons of blood spurting from the holy bishop’s neck at the crucial point. [Maybe people need to see what happened to the English Martyrs.] Perhaps Sir Ridley Scott (Gladiator etc.) could do something, or Peter Weir (Master and Commander.) Now that Russell Crowe is a little old for the action hero role, could he do a gutsy elderly bishop? Or maybe Sean Bean could graduate from his new priestly persona?

To help film directors understand the dramatic potential of such a film, here are some of my previous posts on St John Fisher: [Useful!]

Feast of St John Fisher
Hymn to St John Fisher
St John Fisher’s cell
Cardinals’ badge of honour
Titular Church of Cardinal Fisher
If St John Fisher and St Thomas More were bloggers
“Alone of thy peers”
St John Fisher’s prayer for holy bishops

I note with pleasure that Rorate Caeli have today recalled the detail of St John Fisher’s final hours: when he was told that the writ of execution had arrived, he asked the gaoler to let him have another couple of hours’ sleep. That’s what a clear conscience looks like.

One important lesson from the lives of St John Fisher and St Thomas More is their response to scandal given in high places in the Church. Here’s a link to something I wrote on it some time ago: How to respond to scandal in the Church.

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My View For Awhile: Marine Edition

Having concluded the festivities and intelllectual enhancement with Acton U, I turn my nose westward along with that of my car.

As part of the adventure, and to avoid lots of construction around Chicago I’ve opted for the ferry from Muskegon to Millwaukee.


It’s a splendid day.  And I’m in good company.



The owner showed my the original brochure from the dealership.  ’51

It’s a bit surreal to be listening to Benvenuto Cellini while waiting for a ferry next to a 51 Packard.


UPDATE

My reading for awhile US HERE – UK HERE

Politicizing the Bible: The Roots of Historical Criticism and the Secularization of Scripture 1300-1700 by Scott Hahn and Benjamin Wiker





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OLDIE PODCAzT 88: Consecration of the Human Race to the Sacred Heart; Leo XIII’s Annum Sacrum

christ king sacred heartHere is my now “oldie” PODCAzT from 2009.  As I listened to this, I was struck by how timely it still is, especially about how some are trying to banish Christ and the Church from the public square.

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Here is a rapidly made project to take advantage of the fact that today, 11 June, is the 110th Anniversary of Pope Leo XIII’s Consecration of human race to the Sacred Heart.

Today we hear the encyclical Annum Sacrum of Pope Leo XIII’s (+1903), “Holy Year”. It concerns a holy year for the city of Rome but also Leo XIII’s project for the whole church everywhere in solidarity: that is devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus.

As we approach the beginning of the Holy year for priests which Pope Benedict XVI has called for, a year which will begin on the feast of the Sacred Heart in 2009, also the centenary of St. John Vianney, it will be good to dive into some texts which may deepen our devotion and participation in such an important even for the life of the Church.  We can come to see the continuity of what we are doing now with the efforts of our forefathers.

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A wise, but tardy, fortune cookie

I’m sure you all remember

BUGNINICARE!

Here is a great note from a reader:

If only Bugnini had been into Chinese dining…

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#ActonU 2017: Day 2

Day 2 started, as always, with Holy Mass in the Extraordinary Form.


In another room, there is the Ordinary Form (I think they use electric piano over there).  There is also, this year, an Orthodox Prayer service and a Protestant.

Day 2 also started with me being freer than yesterday.  My faculty duties are mostly done (except of course for the mingling and answering questions, which is fun).   Lot’s of people introduce themselves as long time readers here.  You hear many languages.  Today I was waiting for a talk to start on Secularism.  Two Gentlemen From Lebanon (not a play title) came in and introduced themselves (Maronites), as I heard behind me a conversation in Chinese (Mandarin – I got part of it) and at the end of the row a couple were speaking in Spanish, I think Argentinian.  We have any number of African languages around us too.  There is a group from Israel, including a couple of rabbis.  This is a seriously international gathering.  There are priests here from all over the world, many of them on fellowships.   It is ecumenical as well.  Quite a few of the (great) talks I have heard were by Protestants.


Today an amusing thing happened.  One of the presenters made a less than felicitous comment about the post-Constantinian (Catholic obviously) Church in the Middle Ages.  As I shifted in my chair, a friend of mine sitting behind me, an Orthodox priest, patted me on the shoulder and said “There there.”


Meanwhile, these are lovely long evenings, perfect for conversation etc.


Acton U runs ON TIME.  Every session starts and ends on schedule.  That shows RESPECT for participants.  By contrast I remember a beautiful place out West for a conference … disaster.

Good food – for over a thousand.


Panel discussion.

UPDATE:

I’ve returned from the post-supper, post-panel, post-mingle activities which were great.  I wandered to where I knew I might find some interesting folks and I found them.  We had two Israeli rabbis, a Muslim, a couple of priests and assorted laymen (including two of the smart Acton staff I know).  The conversation was incredible.   I spent a quite a lot of time parked with a strongly conservative rabbit and the muslim talking about… lots of stuff.  I asked a lot of questions and got a pretty good education.

This was one of those perfect, a Jew, Muslim and a Priest walk into a bar moments….

Anyway, one of the rabbis, who reminded us that they can’t be with us tomorrow for more of the same, told me about this.   We all watched it together on a phone, but here it is. I remember this from when I was pretty young. Transplanting it into this age of screens is… disturbing. This video has something deep for our families to consider. It is from a different tradition. It is from an older tradition. It is from a valid tradition.

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ASK FATHER: Must a Latin Church Catholic going to an Eastern Church still obey Latin laws?

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Is a Latin Rite Catholic who is married to an Eastern Rite Catholic, has Eastern Rite children, attends an Eastern Rite parish, but has not been canonically transferred still obliged to follow the precepts of the Latin Rite (Holy Days of Obligation, fasting and abstinence, etc.)?

GUEST RESPONSE FROM: Fr. Tim Ferguson

Ritual Church ascription is an odd thing, which is made more complex by our modern, mobile society. Our ancient ancestors had little trouble with the notion that, if you lived in Diocese X, you followed the liturgical books of Diocese X. By the Middle Ages, some exceptions started to develop. The legates of the Pope to the Byzantine Emperor worshiped, in Constantinople, according to the Roman books, and the legates of the Emperor to the Pope worshiped, in Rome, according to the Constantinopolitan books. Some merchant colonies started springing up, and some would bring priests from their homeland rather than mix in with local hoi polloi. As the Muslims started conquering large swaths of African and Asian Christendom, refugees from those formerly Catholic lands came to Europe, some bringing with them their priests and their liturgical customs. By the middle of the second millennium of Christianity, we had the beginnings of our current situation where, especially in metropolitan areas, you might have Catholic Churches offering the Holy Sacrifice using several different liturgical books, all in unity with the Bishop of Rome.

So, here we are now, and in some places, there are multiple parishes adhering to multiple rites, and the chances of folks intermarrying, or drifting from one ritual Church to another increase.

Canon law maintains the principle that your ritual Church identity is more or less set at the time of your baptism. If Mom and Dad are of the same ritual Church, then little Buster is too. If Mom is Maronite and Dad is Ethiopian Coptic Catholic, then little George will ordinarily be Ethiopian Coptic, but Mom and Dad can make a specific choice to have him be Maronite. If Mom is Ukrainian Catholic and Dad is Finnish Orthodox, then little Petra is Ukrainian Catholic. It gets more complicated, but let’s not get into that here – specific cases should be referred to your local, friendly chancery office for help in clarifying things.

Now, in the Latin Code, canon 112 gives Latin Catholics the ability to transfer to another ritual Church under two headings. Firstly, by requesting this permission directly from the Holy See. Secondly, by marrying a Catholic of another ritual Church. Marriage does not automatically bring about a change in ritual Church, but it provides the Latin Catholic with the ability to make that choice. He would need to do so publicly – before the Eastern Church pastor, and in writing, in the presence of witnesses. This declaration will then be communicated to his parish of baptism, so that it can be duly noted in the baptismal register.

Mere attendance, no matter how long of a duration, at a parish of another ritual Church does not make one a member of that ritual Church. A Latin Catholic who goes to St. Charbel’s Maronite Church for 50 years is still a Latin Catholic, and a Italo-Albanian Catholic who goes through 12 years of school at St. Waldburga’s Very Proper Latin School, attending Mass there daily, remains an Italo-Albanian. One’s rights and obligations follow from one’s ritual Church ascription, not from one’s parish of attendance. Hence, a Slovak Byzantine Catholic who goes to a Latin Catholic parish is still bound by the Slovak Byzantine laws on fast and abstinence, and a Latin Catholic who worships at a Malabar parish is still bound by the Latin Catholic laws on holy days of obligation.

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