URGENT POLL: Which pizza is better? NYC or Chicago style?

In my ongoing desire for clarity, I have posted about the burning issues of our day.

For example, I have sought clarity, and found it, about the true plural of the drink made from Gin and from Tonic.  The answer is clear.

For example, I have sought clarity, and found it, about how to identify what dresses pasta, Sauce or Gravy.

(BTW… I am determined, soon, to have my own Sunday Gravy post.)

To the point in question.

I saw on Twitter, from Ed Condon, this:

Frankly, I think that pretty much all pizza in these USA is seriously defective unless it is made in the style of either Naples (or, mainly, Rome).  Period.  That requires no proof.  It is simply true, like an axiom, and needs no defense, nor shall any disagreement with that dogma be permitted.

That does NOT, however, resolve the issue at hand.  Whatever it is, we want clarity.

New York?  Chicago?

Also, “pizza” or “tomato pie”?

Using some generalizations….

The New York style probably had its origin in the Neapolitan style.   However, now?  Neapolitan is, by definition, thinner, as a matter of fact, it is supposed (in Naples) not to be more than 3mm.

Chicago style, thicker, probably had its origin in the Sicilian style, which almost by definition is thick.

This burning question needs resolution.

Pick your best answer.  You MUST choose.  You are not allow not to have an opinion.  This is too important.

Anyone can vote in the poll, but you must be registered and approved to post a comment.

Ignoring Philly and Detroit, if NYC pizza is generally thinner, and if Chicago pizza is generally thicker ("deep dish"), which is SUPERIOR. No, we DO account for tastes.,

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Meanwhile, the legendary Pizza Rat has already decided.

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ASK FATHER: Suspension of Communion on the tongue because of #Coronavirus

ASK FATHER: Suspension of Communion on the tongue because of #CoronavirusFrom a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Father, in the Philippines a bishop told people to stop receiving Communion on the tongue and receive only in the hand because of Coronavirus and don’t have the chalice too.

What say you?

We have seen this movie before, with the outbreak of various strains of influenza and viruses.

Here are a few commonsense observations.

Firstly, it is not allowed to distribute Communion in the hand during the Traditional Latin Mass or when using the Rite for Distribution of Communion outside of Mass, or during sick calls with the older Rituale Romanum.  Also, in the older Rite, Communion is not distributed under both kinds.  That takes care of that.

I don’t see a way around that.  Distribution of Communion in the hand would be a serious liturgical abuse, precisely because it deals with the Eucharistic species.

If you are concerned about contagion, in a TLM, then don’t go to Communion.    You are not obliged to receive.  You can make a spiritual Communion.

That said, I would bend the rubrics so far as to have the priest rapidly purify his fingers again immediately before distribution of Communion using something like hand sanitizer or wipes of some sort.

That second purification is certainly extra-rubrical, but it is before handling the Eucharist, not a violation while handling the Eucharist.

Moreover, if a priest has to cough or sneeze during Mass, his momentary halt to handle a handkerchief is not described by the rubrics and is not treated in De defectibus.   If a guy has to stop for a moment so that he can clear himself up, then he’s got to stop for a moment.  Therefore, if Father, immediately before – and after for his own sake – distribution, uses a sanitizer, I say tolleratur.   He doesn’t have to be burned and his ashes put down the sacrarium.

As far as the Novus Ordo is concerned, this is less of an issue.

In most places, sad to say, there is juridical permission (I don’t think it’s moral) to receive directly in the hand.  I am not sure how that reduces the risk of contagion.  Maybe it does.  Certain suspending distribution of the Precious Blood would reduce the risk.   Given the options, a person has to decide what to do.  If the local bishop has said don’t receive on the tongue (contrary to your right) and the priest takes a hard position and refuses to distribute on the tongue (contrary to your right), then you have to decide what to do.

If you are dead set against receiving on the hand, period, then don’t even go forward.  Don’t make a scene at the Communion rail.  Make a spiritual Communion.

And, people, if you know that you are sick and probably shedding virus left and right, stay home.   Stay home.  If you are ill or infectious or contagious then you don’t have an obligation to go to Sunday Mass.  While it might be laudable from your perspective to offer up the discomfort and make the effort, it might be a violation of both prudence and charity.

Lastly, while I fully endorse the praiseworthy desire to receive the Eucharist in Communion, and I wholeheartedly embrace the spiritual benefits of frequent reception, something has to be done about that near mania about Communion.

First, there is the promotion of Communion at every Mass such that people think they haven’t been to Mass unless they have received.  NO.  There is the psychological pressure to go, especially promoted by row by row Communion.  It winds up that people go forward when they know they should not.  Sacrilege results.  There is the problem of people not having a clue about what the Eucharist is: “That’s the white thing we get before we sing the song.  It means that people like me.” Sacrilege results.   But there is an overwhelming notion that if you, in the state of grace, go to Mass then you must receive.  NO.  If you wish to, you can.  You are not obliged.

I say, get rid of row by row Communion.  Will it be a little messier?  Sure.  Who cares?

I say, bring back the longer Eucharistic fast.  That will provide also – in addition to spiritual benefits – an apparent reason for why you choose not to go forward: maybe you ate something within the period.

Two things that could help.

Also, we need catechesis, catechesis and also catechesis about the Eucharist and about Holy Communion.

UPDATE

Just to be clear…

The image, larger… with additions.

ASK FATHER: Suspension of Communion on the tongue because of #Coronavirus

A – The head is not tilted back and the tongue is not out.
B – The hands are in the way.
C – The head is back, but the tongue is not out.
D – The tongue is out, but the head is angled downward.

Other observations.

  • In some cultures, people take the Host with their teeth.  I don’t think that’s a good idea, but it is done.
  • Ladies, keep your hair and veil out of the way.
  • You don’t have to exaggerate when you stick your tongue out.
  • Parent with babes in arms.  Hold their arms or hands when you receive.
  • EVERYONE – KEEP STILL.  Don’t be a moving target
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VIDEO contrasts participants in March for Life and Women’s March

LifeSite posted this fascinating, predictable, video.   But an image is worth a thousand words.

Play video

Listening to the view of the other side in this video is like witnessing the autopsy of long dead cadaver in really bad shape.

You can tell that this was once a living, breathing member of the same race, but… oh my.

These people are locked into serious delusion, probably also spurred by the sorts of demons which attach because of certain kinds of sins.

I have an idea.

Perhaps a bishop out there would take it upon himself to celebrated Holy Mass in the traditional rite, specifically in reparation for the ills which these poor people advance through their actions and inactions. At the same time, we need to beg for forgiveness for our own part in this national tragedy. We can sin by both commission and omission.

Penance.

And GO TO CONFESSION.

Think about how personal sins tear at the whole fabric of humanity. We are in this together.

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Blog changes – speed! And “Catholic Signal Corps”

Blog changes - speed! And "Catholic Signal Corps"I had posted a while ago that there was going to be yet another maintenance issue coming up.

As you recall, we did a massive switch to a new server last October.  That went well.

This time we had to point the domain resolution from the old server IP address to the new server IP address.  The traffic to the old IP address was “proxied” to the new.  Now, when someone seeks the IP address for the blog, it gets the IP address of the new server, thus removing an intermediary step.

It seems to me that the blog loads faster now.

I am moved to remind those of you who are tech savvy and serious… emphasis on serious… and savvy… that we are trying to create something we might describe as a “Catholic Signal Corps“.

It it hard to find good Catholic tech help that is both capable and reliable.

Right now there is a discussion group available to some of the people who have answered my queries in the past.  I am in touch with the group’s “moderator” and getting feedback about it.

This could be important in the future for Catholic sites.

BTW… in the traditional calendar, today is the Feast of St. Francis de Sales, often associated with mass media.

 

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China, FlightAware, and You

There is an online resource for tracking airline flights: Flightaware.   It is fascinating to see the planes move in real time.  You get a sense of how important air travel and freight is for all of us.

You also get a sense of how many flights are still going to and leaving China right now.

Today I read that British Airways has ceased direct flights to China.   I’m sure that’s partly due to those flights now being mostly empty.

Wanna go to China, anyone?

I checked FlightAware just now.   It’s night there, of course, so the rhythm of flights from the Left Coast of these USA hasn’t started to beat yet, and more is head to China than coming at this hour.   Still, note the concentrations around Hong Kong, Bangkok, etc.

China, FlightAware, and You

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Worried about Coronavirus? Feed your anxiety, and commonsense. – UPDATED

UPDATE 31 Jan 2020:

We’ve learned that, in Chicago, there is a case of human to human transmission of the virus.  W.H.O. declared an emergency.

Today I read.

___ Originally Published on: Jan 28, 2020

A little anxiety can create clear thinking.  A lot of anxiety can cause paralysis.   We need information to help us game things out in our heads, which ought to be a constant, commonsense, practice of situational awareness.

I’ve been a reader of dystopian novels for some time, though I had taken a bit of a break.   They help you game things out.  I’m now calling back to mind some books that dealt with pandemics as one of the SHTF scenarios.

Worried about Coronavirus? Feed your anxiety, and commonsense. - UPDATEDYou can get these on Kindle, my reader of choice especially for current events books or just entertainment.  Great for travel.  And you can search the books.  Moreover, they don’t gather dust in stacks around my apartment.

First, there’s one from the writer of Dune, Frank Herbert.  A truly creepy scenario.

The White Plague

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Worried about Coronavirus? Feed your anxiety, and commonsense. - UPDATED

There is another dated book by Stephen King

The Stand

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Worried about Coronavirus? Feed your anxiety, and commonsense. - UPDATED

Closer to our own calendar date

THE JAKARTA PANDEMIC: A Modern Thriller (Alex Fletcher Book 1) by Stephen Konkoly.

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Worried about Coronavirus? Feed your anxiety, and commonsense. - UPDATED

This next fellow, Bobby Akart, writes without strong language, vulgarities or sexual innuendo.  He wants young people also to be able to read.

Pandemic: Beginnings: A Post-Apocalyptic Medical Thriller Fiction Series (The Pandemic Series Book 1)

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Worried about Coronavirus? Feed your anxiety, and commonsense. - UPDATED

Remember also…

The Plague by Albert Camus

The Andromeda Strain by Michael Crichton

Executive Orders by Tom Clancy

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I once heard an interview with someone from the CDC, who talked about cycles of pandemics.  He said that we are way over due, in the cycles of these outbreaks.  He commented that, were a bad one to break out, we will be totally overwhelmed.  The image he used was “stacking bodies like cord wood”.

In any event,

GO TO CONFESSION.

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A troubling, curious point in the Third Secret of Fátima

A troubling, curious point in the Third Secret of FátimaSomething was made known to me a while back that I have been pondering.  It involves the Third Secret of Our Lady of Fatima.  It really bothers me.

A refresher:

The three children who were the seers at Fatima, received three secrets on the 13 July apparition.  Carmelite nun Sister Lúcia, who as a little girl was one of the three children to whom Our Lady appeared, revealed two secrets in 1941.  She did not disclose the third secret until 1943 at the command of the bishop.  She wrote it down and sealed it in an envelope and said that it should be opened in 1960.  It was eventually sent to Rome in 1957 where it was stored away securely.    The text of the Third Secret was released by the Vatican in 2000.

There is controversy about the Third Secret.  Firstly, the timing of its release was a problem.  Also, the other secrets have explanations from Mary.  Where’s Mary’s explanation of the Third?

A troubling, curious point in the Third Secret of Fátima

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Also, the Third Secret was kept in both the archive of the Holy Office and also in a safe in the papal apartments in the Apostolic Palace… so it was divided.  Also, there are indications that Popes read the Third Secret for “first time”… twice.  How do you do that if it is one thing?   Was one the text and the other the explanation?   In 2000 Card. Ratzinger gave a theological explanation.  Frankly, and with respect, that didn’t resolve a lot of the questions.

In any event, returning to the thing in the text of the Third Secret that was brought to my attention and that really bothers me.

Here is the whole text.  The part in question is in bold.

“I write in obedience to you, my God, who command me to do so through his Excellency the Bishop of Leiria and through your Most Holy Mother and mine. After the two parts which I have already explained, at the left of Our Lady and a little above, we saw an Angel with a flaming sword in his left hand; flashing, it gave out flames that looked as though they would set the world on fire; but they died out in contact with the splendor that Our Lady radiated towards him from her right hand: pointing to the earth with his right hand, the Angel cried out in a loud voice: “Penance, Penance, Penance!” And we saw in an immense light that is God: “something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it,” a bishop dressed in white. “We had the impression that it was the Holy Father.” Other bishops, priests, men and women religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other bishops, priests, men and women religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two angels each with a crystal aspergillum in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God.

What bothers me?  Not the part about persecution.  That’s a given.

Note that reference to seeing an image like to that of an image in a mirror.

When you see someone pass in front of a mirror, you see two of them, the real one and the image.  Two.

Hence, in this case, the vision involved seeing two figures dressed in white, one being the real one and the other being the image of the real one.  And, according to the description, Lúcia says she saw whom she took to be the Pope and a figure that was not the Pope but an image like the Pope.

One figure the Pope and the other, close by, as in a mirror, not the Pope but looking like the Pope.

 

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Wherein Fr. Rutler hits for six

Wherein Fr. Rutler hits for six

Fr. George Rutler knocks it outta da park today.  Rather, he would probably prefer to have hit for six.  “Hit for six”, as he would know, is not only a good thing in cricket, but is also “to be hit for six” a figure of speech for being hit with devastating news.

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“Sometimes you’re the Louisville Slugger, baby. Sometimes you’re the ball.”  (cf. Mark Knopfler)

Several veiled references to people active today are peppered through his piece.  If they aren’t knocked for six after reading this, then we have reason to question their acuity.

Rutler blasts Pollyannaism, and its often hypocritical attendant Flattery.

A couple of quotes from Rutler’s apaugasmatic offering…

Pollyanna lives on in a parallel ecclesiastical world of new springtimes, new evangelizations, second Pentecosts, conferences of “diocesan leaders” with mic’d up motivational speakers “celebrating the life and dignity of the human person”, and Falstaffian clergymen bereft of sense and burdened with unction. Catholic writers who confuse innocence with naïveté may print anodyne words that in the storms of the day become fatal to fact. They are to theology what Barney the Dinosaur is to paleontology.

I literally laughed aloud at that.

Of course, in order to identify the clergyman Rutler has in mind you have to know who Falstaff is. (cf. Shakespeare)

Here’s another…

Flattery is Pollyanna’s protocol. There even was a clergyman in the service of the pope who said that the Church “is openly ruled by an individual rather than by the authority of Scripture alone or even its own dictates of tradition plus Scripture.”

Hmmm… who could that be? Is this the same fellow, with a penchant for CTRL+C, who recently appeared on a Jesuit (whose else?) stage to promote deaconettes?

More devastating yet, Rutler continues with references to Obediah Slope and Uriah Heep, the character, not the rock band. (cf. Trollope and Dickens)

From that point, Father transitions to the three Japanese monkeys Mizaru, Kikazaru and Iwazaru, who have absolutely nothing to do with the Nairobi Trio (cf. Ernie Kovacs)

By now you have twigged to my hint. Go read it.

HERE

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ASK FATHER: The “churching” of women after childbirth and the blessing of expecting mothers

ASK FATHER: The "churching" of women after childbirth and the blessing of expecting mothersFrom a reader…

QUAERITUR:

I recently had a conversation with an Episcopal priest about the approaching Feast of the Purification. He said that he would not emphasize the Churching of Women connection. There is such a ceremony in the old Episcopal Prayerbook. So it must have been a Catholic practice in the Middle Ages. Is that so? Do you know when it stopped as a regular Catholic practice? (Feminism, perhaps?)

The custom of “churching” is making a comeback.  A very good thing.

For those who don’t know, “churching” is an act of thanksgiving after child-birth, in wedlock.  The mother comes to church to receive a special blessing.

Surely the custom stems from the ancient Jewish laws about ritual purification and how 40 days after the birth of the Lord, to fulfill the Law, Mary brought the Lord to the Temple – which we celebrate at Candlemas on 2 February.

However, the “churching” of women doesn’t have anything to do with ritual purification, for that is all done with and superseded.  This is an act of thanksgiving.

How does this take place?

The woman kneels at the end of the church with a lighted candle.  The priest sprinkles her with Holy Water and recites Ps 23 and then leads her to the altar rail. He recites the Kyrie and Pater Noster with verses and responses and concludes with a prayer and blessing.

Of old, the blessing was not given to women who allowed their child to be baptized outside of the Catholic Faith.   The blessing can be given to women even if the child dies or was stillborn.

Also, it should not be done outside of a church, or a chapel where Mass is said.

Sometimes this blessing is conferred immediately after the baptism takes place, which is a reasonable time to do it.

Here is a prayer from the Rituale for “churching”:

Let us pray.

Almighty everlasting God, who by means of the blessed Virgin Mary’s childbearing has given every Christian mother joy, even in her pains of bringing forth her child; look kindly on this servant of yours who has come in gladness to your holy dwelling to offer her thanks. And grant that after this life, through the merits and prayers of that same blessed Mary, she and her child may be deemed worthy of attaining the happiness of everlasting life; through Christ our Lord.
All: Amen.

That’s the how.

How about when?

There was for a long time a FALSE idea that women were not to come to church until they came for churching.  NO!   Also, churching is not obligatory.   I can’t imagine why a woman would not want to go to church as soon as possible and to obtain this blessing.  But there is no obligation one way or another.

The Collectio Rituum for these USA there is this blessing for the child (children, I guess, if they are twins, etc., mutatis mutandis):

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the living God, begotten before time was, yet willing to be an infant within time; who love childhood innocence; who deigned to tenderly embrace and to bless the little ones when they were brought to you; be ready with your dearest blessings for this child as he (she) journeys through life, and let no evil ways corrupt his (her) understanding. May he (she) advance in wisdom and grace with the years, and be enabled ever to please you, who are God, living and reigning with the Father, in the unity of the Holy Spirit, forever and ever.
All: Amen.

There is another prayer in the case of a still born child as well as a fine prayer for an expectant mother.

I am very happy that, as happens pretty often these days, women who are with child have been asking for the special blessing for expecting mothers.   There is a phrase in Latin in that prayer – Benedictio Mulieris Praegnantis –  which, every time I read it, blows my mind.

… custodi partem tuam, et ab omni dolo et iniuria duri hostis defende; ut obstetricante manu misericordiae tuae fetus eius ad lucem prospere veniat ac sanctae generationi servetur, …

… guard Your (unborn) individual and defend it from every evil plot and injury of the heartless enemy; so that, as the hand of Your mercy is working like a midwife, her unborn child (fetus) will favorably come to the light and be protected in a holy generating.

You can hear how the Latin, Roman mind works in that super literal version.

That image, “obstetricante manu misericordiae tuae” is spectacular.  It describes the hand of God, hence God, acting as a obstetricius or obstetrix.  The verb is obstetrico “to perform the office of a midwife”, in turn from obsto, “to stand before”.

I invite you Latin scholars out there to dig into that use of “partem“.   It seems odd to refer to the unborn child as a pars, a portion or part.  The only way to make sense of it, it seems to me, is to take it as being like the English word “party”, that is used now only in juridical contexts, for a “person”, as when the “party of the first part” and the “party of the second part” enter into a contract.   In the Rituale Romanum, describing the Sacrament of Matrimony, uses partem for individuals in the case of a Catholic marrying a non-Catholic: “Matrimonium vero inter partem catholicam et partem a catholicam extra ecclesiam…”.    Hence, there is in the prayer a way of underscoring the separate persons, mother and child.  Just some thoughts on a tricky word.  Priests ought to understand what they are saying.

But I seem to have strayed from the question.

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Too often TV and film directors and designers get Catholic thing wrong, absurdly so.

There are quite a few churchy things in TV and film these days.   For example, the intellectually insulting Two Popes (absurd on the face of it) and the weird and often vile sequel The New Pope.

Also, churchy things are often on TV series as part of the plot.  For example, on one of the only shows I follow, Blue Bloods, priests or bishops appear.

It is amazing how these directors and producers get wrong.   They get things so wrong that you want to throw things at the screen.  They even get casting wrong, as in the case of The Irishman.  What a joke. I won’t be seeing that.

I saw this tweet after a reader sent it to me, with some question marks.

First, this is probably some C of E thing, but that doesn’t make any difference.

Talk about getting this wrong.   The actor has the chasuble on BACKWARDS, the back in front.

How stupid is this.

 

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