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Father, how un-diverse of you.
Don’t you know that the people in hell are just practicing loyal dissent? [They’ll have a long time to practice.]
It’s like trying to use the “sandwich rule” on a paper I’m giving an “F” to:
“Thanks for turning in your assignment! You have done a great effort here. You’ve demonstrated the grammatical abilities of a first grader, the reasoning of a marijuana addict and the research talents of a plagiarist. But at leaset you got the paper in two days late. Good job!”
Last year, I saw an old _Funky Winkerbean_ on a colleague’s door: Les is doing report cards . Another teacher says, “You gave this kid an ‘F’ but you wrote, ‘I really appreciate all your hard work!'”
Les says, “That’s because, at the beginning of the class, I said they’d have to work really hard to get an ‘F’ in my class.”
Don’t you know that the people in hell are just practicing loyal dissent?
Actually, don’t you know that hell is just made-up, like the way grown-ups make up Santa so kids behave? Everyone goes to heaven, or so I’ve been told by theologically liberal types.
Which makes no sense. If God gives us free will, and we freely choose not to have a relationship with Him, at the end of our lives, He’s not going to say, “Gee, well, you didn’t want to know me in life, but come to Heaven and enjoy!” Why would God give us free will now only to thwart it when we die by taking us to Heaven when we’ve made it clear we want nothing to do with Him?
I swear, you spend time here at my office.
…No reprieve, except perhaps, for the humor.
But Father, But Father, wh would such a caring God create a place like Hell?
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http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/03/hillary_clinton_praises_marvel.html
We’ve been so moddycoddled and comfortable for decades here in the US that somehow hell even as a word has become not only irrelevant but impolite, like talking about dung at a feast.
Perhaps that is about to change radically. With life becoming more and more severe it will become easier and easier to extrapolate one’s way forward to an understanding that eternal privation and severity is a very real possibility. “If God allows THIS, then it is obvious He will allow THAT.”
So it was that I returned to the Church forty-five years ago, with the reality of Hell firmly in place as the foundation on which my own Credo arose, brick by brick.
After all, if there is no Hell, why in the world do we need a Savior or all the discipline He wishes to impose on us, or the grace of the Sacraments? It is the very raison d’etre of the Church.
And as priests emerge stunned and appalled from besieged confessionals and work their way through the crowds to the altar and then to the pulpit, it may be that they will find it not only easy to talk about hell, but difficult not to.
I once worked in a place with a boss who might have uttered the same line to the minions as old Horn-Head.
Now that I think of it, it would have been a close, three-way race between that line, “The beatings will continue until morale improves!”, and a Mr. Rourke-like “Smiles, everybody, smiles!”
I agree with Lee’s comment that as things in the world worsen, we may all regain a sense of hell — beyond the brief bubble in religious practice that followed the World Trade Towers. And if something truly dreadful happens that is tied to religion — the fulfilment of a prophecy out of Medjugorje,for example — then Confession may make a big comeback.
I would highly recommend the MP3s on hell by Fr. Chad Ripperger which can be downloaded for a penance here.
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http://www.sensustraditionis.org/multimedia.html
Please, please ask your fellow priests, Father Z, to talk about hell from the pulpit. My homeschooling friends are the only ones I know who are instructing their children in “fear of the Lord”. The local Catholic schools and the CCD do not seem to ever touch on the subject.
Hey Rob-I saw that sign in one of my last jobs….it was on a file cabinet in the local CATHOLIC bookstore! The owner’s an ND grad, but a ‘Call to Action’ liberal.