Tweeting for the Magisterium of Nuns

The acolytes of the Magisterium of Nuns, such as Fr. James Martin, SJ, of America Magazine, are pretending that the Holy See’s effort to reform the the LCWR is about Republicans and politics, or about their “social justice” work.

Fr. Martin, apparently, and others are asking people to tweet positive notes about the sisters using the hashtag:  #WhatSistersMeanToMe

USA Today, which has taken up Fr. Martin’s project, has this about the CDF’s and USCCB’s move:

Subtext: Stop contradicting the bishops on public policy issues such as President Obama’s Affordable Care Act.

Nice try.   This is all about the noble Pres. Obama and the bishops as pawns of the evil Republicans.  Riiiiiight.

The CDF’s reforming effort is far more about the fact that the queenpins of the Magisterium of Nuns style themselves as teachers about faith and morals over and against the bishops and Holy Father, and that they have even become defenders of abortion and homosexual acts.

Consider if you will just one example from my post HERE.

Donna Quinn: an advocate for legalized abortion. As late as 2009 she was engaged in escorting women to abortion clinics in the Chicago area so they could abort their babies safe from pro-life protesters. She is now a coordinator of the radically liberal National Coalition of American Nuns (NCAN), which stands in opposition against the Catholic Church’s position on abortion, homosexuality, contraception, and the exclusively male priesthood. In a 2002 address to the Women’s Studies in Religion Program at Harvard Divinity School, Quinn described how she came to view the teachings of her Church as “immoral”: “I used to say: ‘This is my Church, and I will work to change it, because I love it,’” she said.  “Then later I said, ‘This church is immoral, and if I am to identify with it I’d better work to change it.’  More recently, I am saying, ‘All organized religions are immoral in their gender discriminations.’” Quinn called gender discrimination “the root cause of evil in the Church, and thus in the world,” and said she remained in the Dominican community simply for “the sisterhood.”

She is but one of many examples.

The upcoming reform of the leadership of the LCWR is not about the Holy See or American bishops being mad at under-appreciated women who built and ran hospitals, schools, and orphanages.  The reform is not about their backing this or that political horse.

The reform is about the fact, the FACT, that many of the women religious in leadership positions over several decades embrace and still actively propagate a radical feminism to such a degree that they now promote, as part of their systems and power structures, unnatural acts between people of the same sex and the killing of babies within, and even mostly out of, the womb.

In any event, the defenders of the liberal nuns want people to tweet (on Twitter, of course) positive notes about the poor, male-oppressed nuns using the hashtag:


I suggest that you give them exactly what they are asking for!

Do tweet and do use that tag.

When you tweet, also add the link back to my post here NUNS GONE WILD.  For your convenience:

Nuns Gone Wild: A Trip Down Memory Lane



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  2. KAS says:

    So, when do we get to simply call them heretics and move on? These women are boring and horribly damaging to people whose ignorance makes them easily misled.

    Just because a nun is “nice” doesn’t mean she isn’t also WRONG.

  3. Cathy says:

    When I read statements like this one, I find myself putting Jesus Christ in the place of the Catholic Church. Consider the seriousness of her statement, for she has proclaimed Jesus Christ as immoral and demanded His teachings be changed. This woman has not simply moved “beyond Jesus”, she has turned full force against Him.

  4. digdigby says:

    Any Catholic ‘escorting’ a woman to kill her baby is a self-excommunicating act, is it not? Fait accompli.

  5. The Bridegroom and the Bride can’t be separated…an attack on the Church is an attack on Jesus Christ. Exactly as Cathy said, to call the Church immoral, is to call Christ Himself immoral. Prayers.

  6. Mariana says:

    But why have these sisters not been kicked out of their orders? I realise they won’t get dumped form a congregation, if they all agree within it, how can the above sister still be a Dominican?

  7. Athelstan says:

    Nicely done, Fr.Z.

    So many don’t realize…just how far off the reservation these nuns have gone. That’s evident in much of the media treatment I’ve read – sometimes even in Catholic sources. And on that score, I can note that The Bitter Pill is doing some serious digging around on this – though I’m told that their reporters have been shockingly ignorant on even the most basic aspects of religious life.

    On a brighter note, George Weigel has a very solid piece up today at NRO:

    As Bishop Blair’s analysis of the LCWR’s assemblies makes unmistakably clear — and from materials readily available from the LCWR — there is very little in the Creed and the Catechism of the Catholic Church that is not up for grabs in the LCWR’s world: the Trinity; the divinity of Christ; the sacraments; the constitution of the Church as episcopally ordered and governed; the very idea of “doctrine”; the notion of moral absolutes; the nature of marriage; the inalienability of the right to life — Catholic teaching on all of these is not infrequently regarded in the LCWR and among its affiliated orders as impossibly old hat because of that teaching’s alleged linkage to “patriarchy.” That doctrinal implosion, further influenced by feminist leadership theory of the woolliest sort, set the stage for the tortured re-readings of poverty, chastity, and obedience to be found in the extensive literature that shapes the theological imagination of many of the sisters in LCWR congregations, those congregations’ leadership, and the LCWR itself.

  8. I did my bit and tweeted: I love Sisters but not NUNS GONE WILD Fr. Z – #WhatSistersMeanToMe

  9. BaedaBenedictus says:

    I find it appalling that these heretics and their allies like Fr. Martin always resort to going to the anti-Catholic secular media to attack the Church and the bishops. Since when does the secular media have a say in Church matters?

    These “Catholics” are a revolting pack of traitors, and they deserve bell, book and candle forthwith.

  10. JohnE says:

    For this group of sisters, perhaps a better hash tag would be #WhatMeanSistersToMe

  11. Dan says:

    The media these days is constantly juxtaposing the charitable work undertaken by many religious sisters with the “reactionary” doctrine and theology of faithful Catholics (i.e., the Holy Father), as if to assert that they are entirely incompatible.

    This question was asked here yesterday, and I’m going to ask it again…why can’t we exemplify both? When did it become one or the other? It seems that these days, you are either a “social justice” small “c” catholic who picks and chooses what doctrines to accept, or you are an angry traditionalist who thinks they’re in God’s “special club” because they go to Latin Mass (and therefore don’t have to dirty their hands with feeding the poor, etc.)

    And, before I ruffle too many feathers, I use the above characterization as more of a self-indictement than anything else. I myself have fallen into the latter category before, and thankfully have gotten out of it. And I know that those categories are extremes and there are many in the faith who live wholistic, well rounded Catholic lives…BUT, I think we could really work to correct this media misapprehension by trying, in our own way, to exemplify both fidelity to the magesterium and chairity to the less fortunate in a much more integrated way of life.

    I bring this up because today is the memorial of St. Fidelis of Sigmaringen, and in the Office of Readings we learn, “In addition to charity, he was faithful in trugh as well as in name. His zeal for defending the Catholic faith was unsurpassed and he preached it tirelessly.” St. Fidelis lived a live of complete and total service to the poor, sick, and dying. He also defended the faith against heresy and died as a martyr. We should all try to live like him, and to exemplify both parts of Christ’s great commandment: love the lord thy God, and love thy neighbor as thyself. That would really confuse the main stream media…

    Let’s show them that true charity, true love, does not consist in facilitating the murder of children…but in loving God, receiving His life in the sacraments, and sharing that life with the most needy among us. Honestly, that’s how we’re going to be judged, and I, more than anyone, need to make it a much more central part of my life.

  12. Laura98 says:

    I don’t tweet… but, if I did. This sort of nonsense just tears me up. It makes me mad on the one hand – (How dare they desecrate the Church like this?? Nuns as abortion escorts?? How could they???) While at the same time it makes me so sad. Sorry for them and how misguided they are, even though they are angry at everyone including Our Lord apparently. I will pray for them.

  13. trekkie4christ says:

    While I agree that the leadership of the LCWR needs to be corrected for speaking against Catholic teaching and against their own bishops, there’s nothing wrong with Fr. Martin asking for people to support the nuns they know to be good Catholics (and I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that this is what he intends). I’ve known many religious sisters that would be (and are) appalled at what the LCWR leadership are saying; so we need to make sure that we don’t turn this debacle into a war on nuns, but rather maintain a charitable atmosphere of fraternal correction towards those that are in error.

    NB: The article you linked to by Fr. Martin is 10 years old. A lot can change in that amount of time.

    [What you should reflect on for a bit is that the Holy See and USCCB’s latest move is a reform of the LCWR and its leadership. It is not an attack on nuns. This is a point many people are missing.]

  14. Scott W. says:

    Fr. Z said: “…the Holy See and USCCB’s latest move is a reform of the LCWR and its leadership. It is not an attack on nuns…”

    I reply: this should be written backwards with a sharpie on everyone’s forehead, so they can read it when they look in the mirror in the morning. As I suggested in the earlier rogue’s gallery entry, the choices are a). Ignore it and keep the status quo and let these off-the-reservation orders die their fast-approaching deaths; b). Reform by reaffirming the orthodox Catholic faith and perhaps be salvaged or c). Dissolve and suppress these orders by ecclesial fiat. The hardened heresy-hound in me is inclined toward a or c. The Church leadership, much wiser and patient than me (there I said it :)), is opting for b. In other words, the so-called “crackdown” IS the charitable response.

  15. smeej says:

    In cooperation, then, with the USCCB and the CDF, let’s focus on what good remains in the LCWR–what is salvageable. Let’s use the hashtag to remind the LCWR leadership that they are more appreciated for the parts of their efforts that are faithful than those that are heterodox.

    Rather than using the hashtag to draw attention to the darkness, let’s use it to point out what light there is, even if we really have to search to find it. If the USCCB and the CDF see enough goodness to remain hopeful, we should too. Plus, the world is full of enough darkness as it is. Let’s not give it more attention than it deserves.

  16. AnnAsher says:

    How about we trademark ” Catholic” and sue them for using our term?
    Oh wait there’s already canonical penalties for this, no ?

  17. Kathleen10 says:

    I don’t know how to tweet or chirp.

    It is mindboggling to hear of the actions of these “nuns”. It answers alot of questions that have rattled around in my brain for a long time though. I’m glad for the information, even though it is terribly disheartening. Yet, a ray of hope, the reform. I hope reform means “being shut down”. I don’t for a second believe that nuns can be “reformed”, when opinions are as set in concrete as these likely are. Some of those nuns are as they say “long in the tooth”.

    You nuns, you are an insult to women, and as a woman, I am offended by you. Women are called to be loving, with hearts ready to be havens of safety and acceptance, of all children. You escort women to abortions? You actually can walk alongside a woman who is about to offer up her child, who is about to let them be ripped apart in their mother’s womb? You, a religious, have not learned to value the life of a child not yet born? How can this be! What kind of distorted logic have you accepted, that would cause you to act in a way that is completely contrary to what not only a woman ought to be, but a Catholic nun, who has taken vows?
    Encouraging people who are engaged in the homosexual lifestyle to continue, is serious. You are facilitating sin, for people who might be able to avoid that particular sin, except that you are encouraging them. Serious indeed.
    But a life, a child’s life, the most valuable, the most precious, the most innocent, the most vulnerable, you have their blood on your hands. I am afraid for you. Your vocation has made you more culpable. To whom much is given much will be expected. Have you no fear of God!

  18. michelelyl says:

    I am sad to see you have asked your readers to hijack Fr. James Martin’s #whatsistersmeantome [I am sorry that you think people with another view shouldn’t be permitted to accept his invitation.]
    Personally, I have found sisters to be very inspirational and good role models- [You have missed the point of the CDF’s and USCCB’s move, perhaps.] Presentation Sisters who taught in my elementary school, Sisters of St. Joseph, and Sisters of Providence who have inspired me to work in parish ministry, Poor Clare Sisters and Sisters of St. Francis who have been actively involved in many worthwhile and holy projects serving the Church…you are diminishing the good that Sisters have done by focusing on a few who are not doing the good work of the Church. Also, I realize that you are not a fan of Jesuits, [I’m not?] but Fr. James Martin, S.J. is a force for the good of the Church. He is the face of a Catholic priest to many people through his ministry of writing, humor, radio and television. People are drawn to the Catholic Church because of his high visibility and his approachability. I don’t understand why you [Again with the “you”!] and some of your readers hate him so much. I’ve heard him speak many times. I’ve read his books. I’ve met him in person and I’ve seen him on the Colbert Report and many other shows. I just don’t get the lack of Christian charity towards a good priest. Of course, many of you will jump at the chance to tell me ‘he’s not a good priest’ [Why would they do that? Is there any evidence that he isn’t?] but how many of you have met him, read his books, and heard him speak? I try to learn as much about a person as I can before I proclaim him or her to be a heretic. Not that I’ve ever said anyone was actually a heretic…that’s a dangerous word to toss around. Remember Canon 915?

    [Think before you post.]

  19. ckdexterhaven says:

    Hi Micheleyl, I don’t think #whatsistersmeantome was hijacked. That’s the way twitter works. Fr. Martin can take offense and make statements on twitter like “see how they shove one another” and now on his facebook page lamenting that it’s not all love and rainbows and earthday using the hashtag. I do not know the man personally, and he may be a good priest. But politically, I couldn’t be farther apart from him. He deletes people and chides them on “incivility” on his page, yet pro abortion comments always have a happy home on his page. I will never understand any Catholic, much less a priest who can support abortion loving politicians. You feel that the #whatsistersmeantome hashtag was hijacked. Welcome to the club. Some of us have felt that the phrase “social justice” was hijacked by liberals many years ago.

  20. Scott W. says:

    I don’t understand why you and some of your readers hate him so much.

    Can you cite a concrete example of hate directed at him? Frankly, most of the comments are directed at the nuns for which there is objective evidence of heresy, often by their own words and deeds that they proudly display. One commenter said the Fr. was an ally for these heretics, which is close, but not quite. Face it, you don’t have a substantial response, so you are trying to ascribe sleazy motives and emotions to us.

  21. Glen M says:

    It’s a nice to think Fr. Martin has the purest intentions with his twitter hashtag, but I suspect other motivations. Prior to getting banned on his Facebook page I discovered he supports liberation theology. He also allows liturgical dancing during his Masses. He and other priests I’ve seen on Facebook might not openly support dissent like female ordination or gay marriage, but they encourage “dialogue” in their comment boxes. Typically the vast majority of their followers support these initiatives and the priest never corrects them or offers any catechesis. They just let the conversation continue while taking action against orthodox Catholics defending the Magisterium.

    The internet will be extremely valuable during the New Evangelization, however, opponents will use it too. Perhaps it is up to the laity to bring these offenses to the proper authorities, indeed, we may have an obligation to. Souls are at stake.

    Due to the media’s spin on the Vatican attacking poor little old nuns, perhaps it would be prudent to announce a visitation to certain priestly orders like the Jesuits.

  22. Supertradmum says:

    The reason why the sisters cannot be kicked out of their orders is that frequently they are the superiors of those orders, elected by like. As to the “hatred” argument, we now live in an atmosphere of false tolerance where any objection to heresy, falsity, or deviation from morality is considered an attack on that individual. Relativism and tolerance are the name of the game. Few can be objective and most see such criticisms as subjective attacks.

    About time bishops excommunicated publicly (one sister was of that list) these heretics.

  23. tour86rocker says:

    Does anyone know where to find a list of LCWR orders? Wikipedia says that some orders maintain dual membership in LCWR and CMSWR…I wonder if some will be allowed to drop LCWR membership or if it would be safer to freeze membership in order to ensure reform.

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