Of Roast Beef, Rat Excrement and You

Floris van Schooten, Breakfast

From the always interesting Laudator.  This seemed appropriate for Shrove Tuesday:

Roast Beef
Henry Fielding (1707-1754), Don Quixote in England (London: J. Watts, 1734), p. 14 (from Act I, Scene VI):

When mighty rost Beef was the Englishman’s Food,
It enabled our Hearts, and enriched our Blood;
Our Soldiers were brave, and our Courtiers were good.
Oh the Rost Beef of Old England,
And Old England’s Rost Beef!

Then, Britons, from all nice Dainties refrain,
Which effeminate Italy, France, and Spain;
And mighty Rost Beef shall command on the Main.
Oh the Rost Beef, &c.
Oh the Rost Beef, &c.

7 effeminate: a verb here (“To make womanish or unmanly; to enervate,” Oxford English Dictionary, s.v. effeminate, v., sense 2), not an adjective
8 Main: open sea

On different versions and authorship see Edgar V. Roberts, “Henry Fielding and Richard Leveridge: Authorship of ‘The Roast Beef of Old England’,” Huntington Library Quarterly 27.2 (Feb., 1964) 175-181.

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This patriotic song surfaces constantly in the naval novels I enjoy, especially the mighty series by Patrick O’Brian.  I don’t like this verse at all:

When good Queen Elizabeth sat on the throne,
Ere coffee, or tea, or such slip-slops were known,
The world was in terror if e’er she did frown.

Oh! The Roast Beef of old England,
And old English Roast Beef!

So many things wrong with that verse.  Which it’s a horrid verse, as Preserved Killick would say.  NO COFFEE?

To correct for these errors, go NOW and buy some Mystic Monk Coffee and/or Tea.

My trip to England didn’t work for January, so I am thinking about April.

Meanwhile, a moment with Stephen, Preserved and Jack from The Mauritius Command:

‘Good morning, Killick,’ said Stephen. ‘Where’s himself?’

‘Good morning, sir,’ said Killick. ‘Which he’s still on deck.’

‘Killick,’ said Stephen, ‘what’s amiss? Have you seen the ghost in the bread-room? Are you sick? Show me your tongue.’

When Killick had withdrawn his tongue, a flannely object of inordinate length, he said paler still, ‘Is there a ghost in the bread-room, sir? Oh, no, and I was there in the middle watch. Oh, sir, I might a seen it.’

‘There is always a ghost in the bread-room. Light along that pot, will you now?’

‘I durs’nt, sir, begging your pardon. There’s worse news than the ghost, even. Them wicked old rats got at the coffee, sir, and I doubt there’s another pot in the barky.’

‘Preserved Killick, pass me that pot, or you will join the ghost in the bread-room, and howl forevermore.’

With extreme unwillingness Killick put the pot on the very edge of the table, muttering, ‘Oh, I’ll cop it: oh, I’ll cop it.’

Jack walked in, pouring himself a cup as he bade Stephen good morning, and said, ‘I am afraid they are all in.’

‘All in what?’

‘All the Frenchmen are in harbour, with their two Indiamen and the Victor. Have not you been on deck? We are lying off Port-Louis. The coffee has a damned odd taste.’

‘This I attribute to the excrement of rats. Rats have eaten our entire stock; and I take the present brew to be a mixture of the scrapings at the bottom of the sack.’

‘I thought it had a familiar tang,’ said Jack. ‘Killick, you may tell Mr Seymour, with my compliments, that you are to have a boat. And if you don’t find at least a stone of beans among the squadron, you need not come back. It is no use trying the Néréide; she don’t drink any.’

When the pot had been jealously divided down to its ultimate dregs, dregs that might have been called dubious, had there been any doubt of their nature, they went on deck.

Don’t get stuck with rat excrement in your coffee!

Order Mystic Monk now!

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A Pontifical Mass at the Throne

At the Brigittine Priory of Our Lady of Consolation in Amity, Oregon, His Excellency Most Reverend Alexander Sample, Archbishop of Portland, celebrated Holy Mass in the older, traditional form of the Roman Rite, a Pontifical Mass at the Throne.

It will not be stopped.

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What else do we “tolerate though not accept”?

I keep coming back to the position of Card. Kasper about second “marriages”. HERE  That innuendo about a solution for second marriages … that we might fudge just enough to “tolerate though not accept” them…, well… it just bugs me.

How do we “tolerate though not accept”?

What else do we “tolerate though not accept”?

UPDATE:

Over at Mundabor I saw this amusing entry:

Concerning Cardinal Kasper’s fifth column work, more or less asking that we “tolerate” what we cannot “accept”, the rather baffled Father Z asks: “what else do we tolerate though not accept?”

I have an answer there.

Brothels.

In Italy, brothels were called case di tolleranza. I was always told, and have always taken for granted, that this is because the Church could not allow or in any way consent to the existence of brothels, but considered not fitting to crack down on them. This is the reason why in the Roma papalina prostitution was rife; be it because of the presence of an army of priest, not all of them very chaste, be it because of the position of Rome as an extremely important destination for pilgrimages, then largely the preserve of men, with the consequences anyone who is not a finishing school girl can easily imagine.

Therefore, in order to avoid the huge pressure to which girls would have been subjected in case of crackdown on brothels, the Papal States chose to tolerate brothels. Not “authorise”, mind; simply renouncing to a massive crackdown on a factual situation out there; a situation to which the Church lent no assistance or support whatever, forbidding the visit of brothels and constantly reminding of the consequences of sin on one’s soul.

This is the only example of “toleration” I know. I notice here that when brothels were outlawed in Italy in 1957, this was out of the initiative of a feminist Socialist female senator, enthusiastically followed by her own party and the Communists. Neither during Fascism nor during the dominance of the Democrazia Cristiana in the De Gasperi era did the governments of the day move to crack down on brothels: tolleranza was considered the best choice, and actually since Fascism also a strict regulation (for medical reasons, mainly) followed.

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Fr. Z’s first reaction to Bp. Olson banning Extraordinary Form at Fort Worth’s Fisher More College

My mail box has filled up this morning with reports that the Bishop of Fort Worth, Most Rev. Michael Olson, who was recently consecrated and installed in his see in November 2013 at a mere 47 years of age, has “banned” celebrations of Mass in the Extraordinary Form at the chapel of Fisher More College.

The source of these reports seems to be the blog Rorate Caeli, which provides a copy of the letter that Bp. Olson sent to Mr. Michael King, who is the President of Fisher More College.

Here is the letter, which I found at the aforementioned blog:

None of us are privy to the conversation, mentioned by the bishop in his letter, that took place on 24 February.  I have no idea what the tone of that conversation was or how many conversations took place.

However, I am appalled at the tone of the Bp. Olson’s letter to Mr. King.  Frankly, it reminds me of a note an authoritarian seminary rector would pin on the mailroom bulletin board about student attire or lights-out time, rather then gentle pastoral solicitude of a diocesan bishop in the era of Pope Francis.  I am shocked at the suggestion that this decision is taken for the sake of the souls of the students and the president himself, as if the Extraordinary Form were somehow spiritually harmful.

That said, what we don’t know about this situation could fill volumes.

For example, I discern in the bishop’s second point, the one about his granting faculties, the possibility that the priest who had been saying Mass at Fisher More on a regular basis may not have had any faculties at all, from any bishop or religious superior.  I suspect that there is more to that poorly phrased second point than meets the eye.

Also, while some Catholic college and university chaplaincies also have the canonical designation as a parish (e.g., St. Paul’s at the University of Madison), Summorum Pontificum doesn’t seem to apply as clearly.  The Motu Proprio doesn’t seem to apply to college chapels and chapels on military bases.  That said, the spirit of both Summorum Pontificum and Universae Ecclesiae communicate something far different from the tone, at least, of the bishop’s letter.

Again, what we don’t know about this situation could fill volumes.  I, at least, don’t know who the priests were who were saying that Mass for the students at Fisher More.  Were they of the SSPX or some independent group?  Were they preaching things that were improper (e.g., attacking Pope Francis from the pulpit, directly attacking the Novus Ordo as invalid)?

More will come out, and soon.

In the meantime, it is hard to imagine why a letter with such a menacing tone would be sent to a layman about something which soon-to-be St. John Paul II described as a “legitimate aspiration”.  You will recall that Bl. John Paul asked, nay rather, required by his apostolic authority, that respect be shown to those who desire the traditional forms of the Roman Rite (cf. Ecclesia Dei adflicta, 6c).

My first hope and prayer, and petition to the Guardian Angels of those involved, is for cool heads and a positive resolution to this conflict so that the students and staff of Fisher More will be able to have their legitimate aspirations respected according to the will of St. John Paul and Benedict XVI.

The Moderation Queue is ON.

UPDATE:

A priest friend forwarded information from HIS priest friend in Dallas.  Thus, I will edit a great deal and use bullet points. These things either happened or they didn’t and can be verified one way or another:

  • In May a prof of FMC (Fisher More College) gave a talk and denied aspects of Vatican II
  • The FSSP priests withdrew their services at FMC some time ago.
  • Taylor Marshall, married with several children, resigned his job at FMC without another job.
  • At Thanksgiving, 2013, Fr. Nicholas Gruner, the suspended Fatima Priest, said Mass at FMC.
  • These things took place when the Diocese of Fort Worth was vacant.
  • “This is NOT about hatred for the TLM.”

All of these points (except the last, which was an opinion) suggest dysfunction which the new bishop needed to address.

It may indeed be that this is not about “hatred for the TLM”.  If that is the case, then Bp. Olson will surely want to make that clear in some way.

One commentator, below, observed that the bishop said that students could go to a parish, off-campus, where the TLM is offered, thus suggesting that he doesn’t have a problem with the TLM itself.

I hope that is the case.  The tone of the bishop’s letter certainly fueled that suspicion.  Getting some of the details out will help diffuse some of this tension about an “attack by a bishop on the TLM”.  It may not be that at all, though I still scratch my head about this.

As I said above, what we don’t know can fill volumes, that it will swiftly come out, and that we must must must pray for cooling heads and the help of our angelic companions.

UPDATE:

From a source in a diocesan office Somewhere In The English Speaking World, edited and with my emphases and comments:

This morning I asked our excellent team of orthodox canon lawyers to comment on the situation at Fisher More as reported by Rorate. Here are their thoughts:

Essentially they said the whole matter centers on the fact that Masses for the school are held in an oratory[that’s why I raised the issue of “parish”, above] because of this, they said the bishop is probably on solid ground despite the fact that they “took an immediate dislike of the bishop when reading the decree.”
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Canon 1225 states that “All sacred celebrations can be performed in legitimately established oratories except those which the law or a prescript of the local ordinary excludes or the liturgical norms prohibit.”

Everything that happens within oratories are subject to regulation by the local ordinary. Because the local ordinary can lawfully regulate, restrict, or eliminate the celebration of the Mass or any of the sacraments in any oratory in his diocese, our canonists said that he most likely can restrict which form of the Mass is celebrated, because “he who can do the greater can do the lesser.” If you can prohibit Mass outright, the principle in law would suggest that you certainly can prohibit one form of the celebration. Furthermore, this is in a similar vein of regulating activities in Oratories with stipulations — for instance, “the Mass may only be celebrated in this oratory when some of the Christian faithful are present,” or “the Mass may only be celebrated in this oratory if extraordinary ministers of holy communion are not used.” [That’s gonna happen!]

Again, the whole thing here hinges upon the fact [presumed] that the ordinary is regulating the activities in an oratory. (If there was a parish church across the street from Fisher More, and the pastor gave approval for the priests of the college to celebrate the vetus ordo their every day, the bishop could not prevent it because the situation would fall under the norms of Summorum and UE). [My point, above.]

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There is some doubt about his ability to differentiate between the forms… and hopefully ED [Ecclesia Dei?] will swoop in and issue a clear statement…. but we’ll just have to see. [Don’t hold your breath.  And… I must add… it isn’t always a good idea to ask when you don’t know the answer in advance.]

If the oratory at Fisher More is really a private chapel instead of an oratory (unlikely but technically possible), Canon 1228 — which governs the sacraments in chapels — is even more restrictive: “Without prejudice to the prescript of can. 1227, the permission of the local ordinary is required for Mass or other sacred celebrations to take place in any private chapel.”

There you have more grist for the mill.

UPDATE:

This, from a person who wrote to the PCE about the situation for the chapel of a Catholic college:

 UPDATE 4 March:

Taylor Marshall, mentioned in this dust-up, has made a statement on his Facebook page. HERE. Some of it:

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For the record, I resigned as Chancellor of the College at the beginning of June of 2013—only days after our seventh baby was born. I had no job prospects and no income. I did it for the sake of conscience. I felt it would be a danger to my soul to remain at Fisher More College.

I resigned when moral, theological, and financial discrepancies came to light regarding the presidency of Michael King. I was an ex officio member of the Board so I knew what others did not. From May to early June of 2013, five of the eight College Board Members also resigned for two reasons:

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Rorate Caeli has just released their sensational “exclusive” report on how the new Bishop of Fort Worth is persecuting the traditional Latin Mass in the person of Michael King. They included the (private) letter of Bishop Olson to Michael King and offered their speculation.

This controversy created by Rorate Caeli with the help of Michael King’s letter is not about the Latin Mass or Summorum Pontificum.

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As one who loves and prays the Latin Mass, please don’t curse or blame Bishop Olson for this one. He is a new bishop who inherited a TOUGH pastoral problem. Pray for him. And if you love the Latin Mass, don’t be so quick to judge the bishops or cite canon law. Sometimes there are things behind the scenes that you don’t know.

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In The Wild: Mystic Monk and Z-Swag – hard to beat that

A brilliant priest of my acquaintance has sent a photo after having filled the rectory coffee nook with Mystic Monk Coffee K-Cups.

They also have very good taste in coffee mugs there.

I especially like the spiffy Star Trek effect from off the coffee maker’s light.

“But Father! But Father!”, some of you are saying anxiously, “What about Ash Wednesday?  May I drink my Mystic Monk Coffee?  I can drink my Mystic Monk Coffee, can’t I?  Can’t I?”

As I have explained in the past, you can drink your Mystic Monk Coffee, even on Ash Wednesday with and as part of your full meal and two small snacks.

BUT…. no other kind of coffee is permitted.*  Therefore buy lots of Mystic Monk Coffee NOW… before it’s TOO LATE!

Coffee would break the Eucharistic fast (one hour before Communion), since – pace fallentes  – coffee is no longer water, but not the Lenten fast on Ash Wednesday.

(A different priest friend argues that morning coffee is medicinal and, therefore, permitted.  Auctores scinduntur.)

*Kidding.

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Your Sunday Sermon Notes

Was there a good point from your Sunday sermon notes?  Let us know what it was.

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The demise of a Brutalist church

I read at California Catholic Daily, that a church (non-Catholic) built in the Brutalist style is being torn down.  There is even a photo.

This gives hope to us all.  Brutalist and church should never be in the same brain, much less the same building.

That said, another, even greater, sign of hope is the ongoing project in Madison, WI, to replace the Catholic student center parish church, St. Paul’s, with a real church.  The present structure is, as you may have already guess, Brutalist.  It is brutally Brutalist.  In the illustrated dictionary of Brutalism this church’s picture would be by the entry for “Brutalist”.

This church is realllllly ugly.

Before…

There are surprisingly – happily – very few photos of this place.

The project to replace it is HERE.

On the other hand…

A worthy project.  I might have built otherwise, but they are seriously constrained by space.  I do, however, like Romanesque.  Were I to be asked to build a church, it would probably be Romanesque.

I understand that a good deal of the money has been raised to begin the work on the new St. Paul’s.  Prayers (and donations) would be welcome, no matter where you are.

If there were any school on this your planet that needs a good facility for a Catholic center, it must be the ultra-weird University of Wisconsin – Madison.

 

 

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ASK FATHER: Gelatin during Lent

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Now that we are coming up on Lent, people are starting to think about what may be eaten on Ash Wednesday and on Fridays.  May I eat insects?  May I eat crocodile?  May I drink Mystic Monk Coffee?

Yes, and you must drink Mystic Monk Coffee.  Rather, you must at least order Mystic Monk Coffee: it is licit to give it away.

From a reader:

Is gelatin (made from skin, bones, and connective tissues of animals) considered meat?

I now put on my Unreconstructed Ossified Manualist cap to answer as I reach for my old moral theology manual, never far from my desk.

Gelatin.  From Compendii Theologiae Moralis (Sabetti-Barrett) n. 331, :

QUAER. 1°. Quid veniat nomine carnis, ovorum et lacticiniorum?

Resp. Nomine carnis veniunt omnia animalia in terra viventia ac respirantia, ut communiter admittunt theologi ex regula tradita a S. Thoma vel, ut S. Alphonsus innuit, n. 1011, animalia quae sanguinem habent calidum; vel illud quod consuetudo regionis ut carnem habet; vel, si nec consuetudo praesto sit, dubium solvi potest considerando mentem Ecclesiae in sanciendo delectu ciborum, ut comprimendae ac minuendae carnis concupiscentiae per salutarem abstinetiam consuleret; examinetur, an huiusmodi animal simile sit aut dissimile iis quorum esus interdictus est et an illius carnes humano corpori validius nutriendo et roborando idoneae dignoscantur; et si ita appareat, ista caro inter vetitas est ponenda. Benedict XIV., De syn. dioec., lib.11, c. 5, n. 12. Haec quatuor multum deservient omni dubitationi solvendae.

Nomine autem ovorum et lacticiniorum intelliguntur omnia ea quae originem ex carne ducunt et habent rationem cibi.

Ova et lacticinia et condimenta etaim ex adipe animalium quorumlibet permittuntur; non amplius restringitur usus ad adipem carnis suinae.  Porro butyrum permittitur, et margarina.

Pepsina non est prohibita diebus abstinentiae, nec, ut nobis videtur, gelatina.  E contrario, bovina caro peptone praeparata (peptonized beef), extracta carnea, uti vocantur, prohibentur…. Pari ratione, stock, i.e., essentia carnis coctae cum ossibus, etc. prohibetur.

So there you have it.  Gelatin is from meat, but it is not meat.  Gelatin is permitted, according to this author, on days of abstinence.

But be sure to avoid peptonized beef!

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What does the TLM mean to you?

From a reader:

Reason #19878 for Summorum Pontificum.

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There’s marriage and then there’s marriage*

I had a comment in my messages from an Observant Person who had the misfortune to read an article about Card. Kasper’s remarks on marriage in advance of the Synod.

The Observant Person pulled a strange quote from Kasper via CNS:

“he allowed for the possibility that in very specific cases the church could tolerate, though not accept, a second union.”?

Huh?  “Tolerate though not accept”?

There’s marriage and then there’s marriage*

How can the Church tolerate what the Church cannot accept? There is a logical disconnect.

What is this supposed to look like in concrete terms?

Let’s take this into the parish. There are second marriages and they are tolerated but not accepted. How is that going to work? Does anyone think that people will be content for very long knowing that they have a second class marriage? They are tolerated, but not accepted? No, what will happen is that people will come to see the second marriage as the real marriage. The first marriage was the one with training-wheels. No, everyone will come to accept the second marriage as the real marriage.

How is this supposed to work? Are they supposed to do a little penance service before their second marriage is “blessed”? Will Father smile at them with only half of his mouth? In sermons about marriage, will the Bishop talk – with a little sneer – about those people out there with marriages that we Just Tolerate™?

Only tolerated, not accepted. What a window of opportunity that gives us!

Think of the shame factor possibilities.

Hey! I know! This is like “We tolerate homosexuals, but we don’t accept them!” How would that work? Pretty well?

Is this really what we want to be saying?

I can see this now. Father is in the pulpit, and he says: “Please understand this everyone. We only tolerate, but we don’t accept your second marriage!”

What the people in Columbia Heights hear is: “Father said that our second marriage okay!”

And then there are the third marriages. Hey! If second marriage is real-er, then third marriage is really real-er. Good, better, best! Keep on marrying until you get it right.

Like a lot of Kasper’s work, it seems subtle until you start to read it.

I then brought in a couple of my other friendly correspondents to discuss.

One Smart Correspondent wrote back:

[Kasper] wants us to follow the Orthodox into plain error.

Clearly.

Another Smart Correspondent wrote back:

I’m sure what he’s (sloppily – on purpose, I fear) referring to is the possibility of an “internal forum” solution. I maintain that an internal forum solution is only acceptable with the application of the “brother-sister” solution:

“Okay, you’ve made a mistake in divorcing your first wife – your faith was not fully alive at that point, and you did not understand the gravity of what happened, nor is there any objective proof to back up your conviction that that first marriage was invalid. Then, still in darkness, you entered into a subsequent union, have settled down, raised a family with this second woman and now have revived your baptismal faith. You would like to practice that faith and receive the sacraments. Fine – the Church won’t ask you to separate bed and board from the mother of your children. Yet, we cannot “bless” this second union while your wife is alive, nor can you engage in marital intimacy with this woman (no one has an absolute right to sexual activity – something our society seems to forget). As long as your former marriage is not well-known to the parish, and your status does not cause wonderment here, you can go to confession and receive Holy Communion, living a life of continence and chastity with the mother of your children as long as your current status perdures.”

That is, of course, the way this has to be done.

People make mistakes in life and some mistakes just can’t be fixed.  Therefore, we move forward with the difficult path, but the only path that preserves charity and integrity.  Will people “fall” or “fail” in these situations?  Sure, they will.  Then they regroup, resolve, confess, and move forward, until they die.

This is how life works: not every mistake can be “fixed”.

UPDATE:

More on the wisdom of Card. Kasper from the Canonical Defender!

Check out Ed Peters’ post at his fine blog In The Light Of The Law.

UPDATE:

Another of my Smart Correspondents writes:

In itself, [Kasper’s] statement is unintelligible: toleration and acceptance mean the same thing. These terms cannot logically be contrasted as they are here.

His is pseudo-casuistry. Possibility really means in actual practice, very specific cases means upon demand, tolerate means accept and declare an adulterous union not sinful.

This speech was highly praised by Pope Francis, as being theology done on the knees. Wow. This in fact is a worldly accomodationist rejection of Catholic doctrine by a Cardinal of the Sanctae Romanae Ecclesiae. Error is bold and undocile.

UPDATE:

The Italian daily Il Foglio has published the entire text of Card. Kasper’s controversial and very long talk.   HERE

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