Priest in Australia says he will marry homosexuals

UPDATE 16 Feb 1552 GMT:

From the The Age:

Father Bob Maguire was the page three story in the Herald Sun with the screaming headline: ”I’ll do gay weddings.” Being a modern priest for the modern era who keeps his flock updated via Twitter and his blog, he tweeted: ”Spread the word, comrades. I will not do gay weddings. I cannot do gay weddings. The H/S headliner is wrong.

_________ ORIGINAL POST __________

Immediate suspension, I think.  Public retraction to follow.  No?  Am I wrong?

From the Herald Sun in Australia:

Gay marriage lobbyists welcome Fr Bob Maguire’s pledge

Paul Tatnell, Anne Wright
February 15, 2011 12:00AM

UPDATE 7.48am: GAY marriage lobbyists have welcomed Father Bob Maguire’s public pledge to conduct gay union ceremonies, but claim he’s not the first priest to speak out in favour of the cause.  [Again, I repeat my outrage at the spiritual abuse against happy virtuous people by homosexuals who hijack the word “gay”.]

Australia Marriage Equality national secretary Peter Furness said this morning it was encouraging to see a Catholic priest speak publicly about the issue.

“There are many priests who support and want the right to marry same sex couples,” Mr Furness said. [Suspension.]

“(But) people are scared of their bosses to do it publicly.” [If they do it secretly suspend them.]

Mr Furness said a number of religious leaders had made submissions to a 2009 senate inquiry in favour of gay marriage, but some were not willing to go public with their views.

“The Australian Christian Lobby would have us think that there is one viewpoint from the church, but there’s not,” he said.

“There are lots of different viewpoints. We have been contacted by many religious leaders who have said they want to do gay ceremonies.”  [Catholic clerics should be suspended.]

Fr Maguire said he would perform a civil ceremony for a homosexual couple – but not in a church[Indeed?]

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UPDATE 16 Feb 1552 GMT:

From the The Age:

Father Bob Maguire was the page three story in the Herald Sun with the screaming headline: ”I’ll do gay weddings.” Being a modern priest for the modern era who keeps his flock updated via Twitter and his blog, he tweeted: ”Spread the word, comrades. I will not do gay weddings. I cannot do gay weddings. The H/S headliner is wrong.

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New Cathedral in Saskatoon – solar cells embedded in stained-glass

The Montreal Gazette has an intriguing piece. Not sure about the design of the cathedral, but the technology of the windows is intriguing.

Let there be light: new Saskatoon cathedral will draw solar power from stained glass

By Jeremy Warren, Postmedia News February 14, 2011

SASKATOON — A different kind of trinity is emerging at Saskatoon’s newest cathedral, where the Roman Catholic Diocese of Saskatoon is combining art, technology and faith in a stunning and environmentally-friendly project.

The Holy Family Catholic Church, a $28.5-million cathedral under construction in Saskatoon’s northeast, has solar cells embedded in the large stained glass windows that will be installed this spring.

The cathedral could be the first church in North America to use photovoltaic cells in a stained glass installation, said cathedral building committee chair Jim Nakoneshny. The University of British Columbia used the combination in a library.

“It’s an art installation, but being able to incorporate energy-collecting methods is a way to show sustainability can be done without it being an ugly feature on the building,” he said.

Toronto-based artist Sarah Hall used 54 panels to create three large sections — the largest of which is 13.3 metres tall 3.2 metres wide — representing the Prairie sky. [Ummm…. and religious symbols?  In the photo, above, it looks as if there may be some small icon-like symbols.]

Sections of bright red, orange and blue swirl around bursts of white light on the stained-glass panels, which will be installed high on the south side of the cathedral.

Hall, who is known for her stained glass work at religious institutions around the world, had the panels fabricated at a studio in Germany. Once made, about 1,000 solar cells were embedded in the panels.

The marriage of art and faith in Roman Catholic architecture is common, Nakoneshny said.  [I like the idea of the technology being built into the windows.  Very cool.  How about religious symbols for the cathedral church of the diocese?]

“The artistic element is always something we look for in a project,” he said.

“If you look back in the history of the church, there’s a long-standing tradition of trying to bring beauty to the form of a building. It ensures that what we’re creating celebrates the glory of God’s creation.”  [Creation?  What about salvation?]

Nakoneshny said the project is on budget and on time. He expects the cathedral to open its doors in November.

The Saskatoon cathedral’s use of solar energy isn’t new to the Catholic Church. In 2008, the Catholic Church replaced roof tiles on a Vatican auditorium with 2,700 solar panels.

The glass and solar cells — from conception to installation — will cost the Saskatoon diocese about $675,000, but the money for the project came from special donations and not the cathedral’s construction budget, Nakoneshny.

The diocese hasn’t calculated how much money might be saved by using solar energy in the cathedral. The panels will collect annually enough energy to power five homes for a year — enough to help offset electrical costs at the new cathedral, said project manager Michael Lux.

jjwarren@thestarphoenix.com

Another photo from Global Saskatoon.

Diocese of SaskatoonNew cathedral.

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Catholic Church in Ireland is collapsing?

VOTE FOR WDTPRSOur Lord promised that Hell would not prevail against the Church He founded.  He didn’t promise the Church would prevail in Ireland.

The Holy Father wrote in his letter to Catholics in Ireland that they should do penance in more intense way and return to some traditional practices.  He focused on the healing of the Irish people and the Church.  If there were ever a place in the world where a New Evangelization and for what I have dubbed Pope Benedict’s “Marshall Plan” to be implemented, it might be Ireland.

I read today in the UK’s best Catholic weekly, the Catholic Herald, a grim story.

My emphases and comments.

‘Visitator will tell Pope that Irish Church is near to collapse’

By Michael Kelly on Tuesday, 15 February 2011

Cardinal O’Malley [of Boston] is one of several senior prelates charged by Pope Benedict with carrying out an apostolic visitation of the Irish Catholic Church following a series of highly critical judicial reports that revealed abuse by priests and a widespread culture of cover-up for decades among Church leaders.

Fr Tony Flannery, a leading member of the Association of Catholic Priests, revealed at a conference of lay people in the Irish capital that “Cardinal O’Malley told the association the Irish Church had a decade, at most, to avoid falling over the edge and becoming like other European countries where religion is marginal to society”.

Fr Flannery said Cardinal O’Malley gave a commitment to the priests’ association that he would deliver the frank assessment to the Pope in a confidential report to be submitted later this year.

Admitting to being previously sceptical about the apostolic visitation, Fr Flannery said that in light of Cardinal O’Malley’s undertaking, “there may be some gleam of hope.” [If bishops and priests preach repentance, demonstrate the same, and promote a return to solid doctrine and traditional practices.]

Cardinal O’Malley could not be reached for comment.

In a mid-November statement, the Vatican said it would issue a comprehensive summary of the investigations’ findings when they are completed.

Fr Flannery said that while the association was ready to campaign for radical change, it was apprehensive that it would be viewed as “a new clericalism”. [?!?  Is there any other course?  Fear of being accused of returning to “clericalism” is a fear that comes straight from the wiles of the Enemy.]

The association, which represents more than 400 of Ireland’s 4,500 priests, was formed in 2010. It has proposed a re-evaluation of the Church’s teaching on sexuality and the inclusion of women at every level within the Church.

The first phase of the visitation should be completed by Easter, and it is likely the visitators will meet with senior officials of the Roman Curia in the spring to discuss what Jesuit Fr Federico Lombardi, the Vatican spokesman, described as the next phase of the “path to renewal”.

There are not many alternatives.  The Church’s pastors in Ireland can surrender to modern trends, which will result in the collapse of the Church in Ireland.  They can dither, which will result in the collapse of the Church in Ireland.  They can do what Pope Benedict asked, and do it boldly, and save something of the Church in Ireland.

“Fear of clericalism”?

For the love of God be priests.   Stop clericalizing the lay folk, look people in the eye, teach them how to pray with worthy worship, preach the four last things, invoke the help of the Mother of God, the Holy Angels, St. Patrick and all the saints, do penance and move forward despite the howls.

Will the Church lose numbers or status in Ireland?  Maybe.  Do it anyway.

St. Augustine preached about the sort of healing that Christ as the great Medicus sometimes applies.  He said that the doctor does not stop cutting just because the patient is screaming for him to stop. (s. 80.3)

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The Pope receives his new bowling ball from Card. Rouco Varela.

Pope Benedict XVI (R) receives a gift by Archibishop of Madrid Antonio Maria Rouco Varela
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Pastor of two parishes ends use of Extraordinary Ministers of Communion

VOTE FOR WDTPRSFor your “Brick By Brick” file.

I found this, thanks to a reader, on the site Knights of Divine Mercy, by Fr. Rick Heilman, pastor of St. Mary Catholic Church in Pine Bluff, WI.

My emphases and comments.

Extraordinary Ministers No More *Gulp*

Fr. Rick Heilman | Feb 14, 2011 |

This past weekend I made one of those decisions in my two parishes that was very difficult, only in the sense that my own silly pride seems to forever inclined to seek the approval of others. It was one of those decisions that I could’ve waited on … to see if many other parishes were doing this first, but that stupid “integrity” thing wouldn’t let me wait for that.

This weekend we made the move to refrain from the use of Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion[NB] Thanks to this internet age in  which we live, the appropriate teaching on this was hard to escape. [Reverend Fathers, have you read Ecclesiae de mysterio?] Up to now, I hid behind my “ignorance”, but once I received the truth, the culpability of my dissent became more grave. I could no longer cower behind my lack of knowledge. My conscience got the better of me as I realized my dissent would now be direct.

In my larger parish, with the church about 90-95% full, it took only 8 minutes 45 seconds for me to give everyone Communion (also, like the Holy Father, I place a kneeler in front of me to give our people the option kneeling or standing). There just isn’t a case for “unduly prolonged” Communion.

Oh, how I wanted to hang out in my ignorance.  Besides, look what happened to some of the priests who did this? (here) [About Bp. Morlino and the great priests near ultra-liberal Madison, WI.  OOH-RAH!] … I mean c’mon … national news? But, they inspired me to be join our Holy Father’s vanguard in reeling in some of the abuses which have crept into the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

Of course, I spent the weekend giving our people the teaching (with love) on this, and the response (so far) has been anything from, “Thank you, SO MUCH, father … we have been waiting for years for this” to “I’m leaving the parish.”

There are wonderful teachings out there in “Google Land,” but this one cuts to the chase pretty well (here).

I’ll humbly take your prayers that I remain strong and full of God’s love and patience as I move from the easy “wait and see” position to the bloody front lines on this issue.

Fr. Heilman, you have my prayers without doubt.  I believe many of the readers here will also want to add your name to their prayers lists for the next weeks.

Friends, I believe we are going to see a lot more of this over time.

WDTPRS KUDOS to Fr. Heilman.

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14 Feb – St. Valentine, priest and martyr

St. Valentine, priest and martyrSt. Valentine, priest, was martyred in 269 at Rome near the Milvian Bridge on the Via Flaminia.  He is considered a  patron of bee keepers, engaged couples and epileptics.  In pictures or statues he can identified with the symbols of birds and roses.

Valentine a Roman priest. He helped martyrs during the persecution by Claudius II. He was arrested and after refusing to renounce his faith, was beaten with clubs and then beheaded on 14 February around 270. Pope Julius I perhaps built a church near to what is now the Piazza del Popolo.  His relics are in the church of St. Praxedes, near Santa Maria Maggiore.

Legend has it that before he was killed he wrote a letter to the jailer’s daughter, signing it, “From your Valentine.”

QBGFT5W3R7W2

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Have a cautious Valentine’s Day!

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PODCAzT 116: Toward a true ecumenism

NB: iTunes users… I found that there was a second enclosure buried in the post which screwed up the feed.  Let me know if you are getting this on iTunes.

Ecumenical dialogue has been much on my mind these days.  I often think about ecumenism, since I myself am a convert.  There is a lot of “false ecumenism” out there.

We cannot turn our backs on the ecumenical challenge.  But ecumenism must be authentic.  We must make distinctions about truths and about the way we express them.  There is a hierarchy of truths, and yet not one iota can be denied.  How do we maintain that fidelity in the face of an irreversible ecumenical course?

To that end, I reviewed my trusty copy of Pius XI’s 1928 encyclical called Mortalium animos about ecumenism.  That is, what ecumenism can’t be and what ecumenism ought to be.

Watching the fruits of Anglicanorum coetibus develop in England, I am confirmed in my conviction that we need an ecumenism of return

You younger readers.  Pay attention.  You may never have heard of these old encyclicals.  You are in for a treat.

“But Father! But Father!”, I can hear some of you saying.  “Are you suggesting people read that? Mortalium animos? That’s … that’s …ecclesiological positivism!  It’s culturally conditioned and therefore not relevant!  It’s… it’s… not Vatican II!  You’re an unreconstructed ossified manualist!  You’re a retrograde patriarchal exclusivist!”

Whatever.

As the late Msgr. Schuler used to say, “When you’re right, you can’t be wrong.”

If you have never read this encyclical, please take some time and listen to this.  It is short enough that I can read the whole thing and then rant for a while.

Mortalium animos is written in a style we no longer see in documents from Rome.  Keep in mind that just because it was written before 1963 that doesn’t mean it isn’t still part of the Ordinary Magisterium of Church.

As we deal with new ecumenical developments, we are prudent to review what the Vicar of Christ said about ecumenism when it was revving up.

It also has a great explanation, without all the nuances, of the hierarchy of truths we believe as Catholics.

Mortalium animos sounds in many respects as if it were written for our own time.

https://zuhlsdorf.computer/podcazt/11_02_13.MP3

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Homosexual activists attack iPhone examination of conscience app for confession

No surprise here.  The Guardian in the UK has an article about homosexual apologists attacking the new iPhone app to help people make a good confession.

I reviewed the iPhone here with follow up entries:

In my review I pointed out the inclusion of homosexual activity in the examination of conscience.  NB: activity not orientation.

Let’s have a look with my usual emphases and comments protocol.

Gay rights groups attack iPhone confession app for Roman Catholics

Group claims app fosters ‘anti-gay spiritual abuse’ as it shoots up list of popular downloads

Jamie Doward and Gabriel Stargardter

The Catholic church has approved [First line of the article, factual error.  The “Catholic Church” did not approve this app.  One bishop in the USA gave the app an imprimatur.  An imprimatur does not mean that the “Catholic Church” approves of the content.  It means that nothing in the app is contrary to Catholic doctrine.] an iPhone app that helps guide worshippers through confession.

The launch of an iPhone app that guides Catholics through confession has prompted a furious response from gay rights groups, who accuse it [?  Do they mean the creators of the app?] of “promoting anti-gay spiritual abuse“. [A rather slimy choice of words.  They are trying to link language associated with the subject of clerical abuse of minors to this app.  Ironic, no?  Most clerical abuse of minors, by large percentage, was same-sex abuse of minors. Furthermore, I believe the hijacking of the word “gay” is an act of spiritual abuse of happy virtuous people everywhere!]

“Confession: A Roman Catholic App”, which costs £1.19 from the Apple iTunes store, has shot to 26 in the download charts, behind Sims 3 and Resident Evil 4: Platinum.

The app allows “a personalised examination of conscience for each user”, and has already won the backing of senior members of the Catholic church. A spokesman for the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of England and Wales said it was a “useful tool to help people prepare for the sacrament of reconciliation”. [Is the spokesman a senior member of the Catholic church?  Perhaps readers in the UK can help with this.  Have any bishops there commented on this app?] Among the questions users are asked is: “Have I been guilty of any homosexual activity?[NB: activity. Homosexual activity is a sin.  It is deviant behavior, as is evident from man’s nature, from Scripture, and the consistent teaching of the Catholic Church which cannot err in matters of faith and morals.]

Wayne Besen, executive director of Truth Wins Out, a group that campaigns on behalf of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered (LGBT) people, accused the app of “helping to create neurotic individuals who are ashamed of who they are“. [The app is focused on action, not on the orientation.  Of course, the orientation itself is a departure from what is normal for a human being. But what is necessary to distinguish are the acts from the orientation.  The app does not go beyond activity.]

“This is cyber spiritual abuse that promotes backward ideas in a modern package,” said Besen. [Ho hum.] “Gay Catholics don’t need to confess, [They do if they commit homosexual acts!  Homosexual acts are intrinsically evil.  They are mortal sins.  Commit a mortal sin and die unrepentant and unconfessed and you will probably wind up for eternity in the state of separation from God which is called Hell. Sin = Death + Hell.] they need to come out of the closet and challenge anti-gay dogma. The false idea that being gay [This is either mendacious or the person saying this is a little thick.  The app doesn’t say anything about homosexual orientation.  The person who said this seems to think that people must express themselves genitally with a person of the same-sex if that is the orientation. I suspect this is a manifestation of the sexual obsession and enslavement that habitual and vicious deviant behavior can drag a person into over time.] is something to be ashamed of has destroyed too many lives. [Indeed? Repent, amend your life, friend, and go to confession to save your soul, no matter what the sins are.] This iPhone app is facilitating and furthering the harm.”

Gay rights groups have become concerned at the use of technology to target minorities. [For pity’s sake, that’s just silly.  As if homosexual groups haven’t ever employed technology to target the Catholic Church.] Besen pointed to the Manhattan Declaration app, which was released last October on the back of a 5,000-word petition drawn up by several Christian groups, and opposed LGBT rights and gay marriage. A furore among liberal commentators prompted iTunes to pull the app from its store. [To the eternal shame of Apple.]

A spokesman for the Confession App’s creator declined to comment. However, the company has insisted it did not write the questions, which were posed by Catholic priests.

Shocked!  I’m shocked!  The Catholic Church says homosexuality is not normal and, GASP, homosexual sex is sinful!  Imagine such a thing!  Imagine an app designed to help with confession might mention deviant sex!  Imagine!

I like this app more and more.

All compassion and charity is required towards our neighbor.  If our neighbor has a homosexual orientation, our homosexual neighbor should have compassion and charity just like everyone else.  It is never charitable or compassionate to say intrinsically sinful acts are good or indifferent.  They are evils which can result in the spiritual death of our neighbor whom we are called by the Lord Himself to love with the love He modeled on the Cross: charity – the love that looks to the good of the other.  It is a spiritual work of mercy to instruct the ignorant and to admonish the sinner.  We do so with compassion and charity.  Remembering that we, too, are ignorant sinners in many ways, we do so with humility.  We should not be indifferent to the spiritual peril of our neighbors.  It may or may not be our place in our relationships to “admonish” directly or with strength.  But in our actions and words we can admonish in ways suited to our positions and places.

Meanwhile, may I suggest to the readership that, if you have an iPhone, even if you don’t need or want to use it, you should immediately go buy this app?

I am not getting a percentage of the sale for the app, btw.

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QUAERITUR: knee injury makes me choose either sitting or kneeling

VOTE FOR WDTPRSFrom a reader:

I have incurred a quite painful knee injury and am currently wearing a brace, between the pain and the brace kneeling is out of the question, Is it preferable to stand or sit during the consecration, I am in the pew in the back with extra space so there is no question of causing a commotion, no one sees me except the priest and The Lord. One way seems so nonchalant and the other seems to imply that I am too proud to bend before the Lord. What is your call?

Just reading about that makes me hurt in sympathy.  I’ve had knee injuries.  brrrrrr

I don’t know the prevailing practice in your parish, that is, whether many people stand (quod Deus avertat) during the consecration or not.  Assuming your fellow congregants are mainly kneeling (as they should), perhaps taking the lower profile route may be best.  Perhaps sitting is not a bad option for you while you are ailing if everyone is kneeling.   When you find a place in the back of the church, or on a side, in other words in an unobtrusive place, stand if you believe that this is more reverent than sitting.  If everyone else is kneeling, perhaps you shouldn’t be standing if you are in the front pew, if you get my drift.

I am glad you are worrying about this.  It shows that you are serious about your posture before God.  Just don’t worry too much.  Friend, if you can’t kneel physically, do something else.  God sees the heart and know what you would rather be doing.  Given the injury, it don’t think it is a matter of pride to stand.

Heal quickly.  Solidarity.

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