Chinese priests and nuns forced into government “study classes”

The UK’s best Catholic weekly, The Catholic Herald, has a piece online which gives a glimpse of the Church in the USA during Pres. Obama’s third term.   Obama would probably love to have, I am sure, an American Patriotic Catholic Association much along the lines of what Catholics in China now enjoy.

Pesky ol’ Catholic Church, daring to raise a voice in the public square!  They need closer oversight!

Let’s have a look at The Catholic Herald report:

Priests and nuns in the Shanghai diocese have been forced to attend compulsory “study classes”, which observers believe were imposed by Chinese authorities in response to the new Shanghai auxiliary’s renunciation of the Catholic Patriotic Association.

In September, approximately 80 diocesan priests and 80 nuns of the Our Lady of Presentation Congregation were divided into three groups to take three days of classes at the Shanghai Institute of Socialism, reported the Asian church news agency UCA News. Classes lasted 12 hours each day and included university professors lecturing about strengthening the sense of duty toward China, the law, and the independent Church principle, UCA News reported.

The main subjects included state-religion relations, the Communist Party’s religious concepts, policies and regulations, the socialist core value system and economic development in China, it said.

A priest who asked that his name not be used told UCA News that all priests and nuns obeyed directives given by the diocese, so the classes ran smoothly. Religious officials at the city and district levels sat in throughout the classes, he said.

Auxiliary Bishop Thaddeus Ma Daqin, 45, quit the government-approved Catholic Patriotic Association at his ordination in July. Since then, he has been in “retreat” at the Sheshan seminary with a “certain degree of freedom”, sources told UCA News.

The priest told UCA News that he thought government officials would criticise Bishop Ma’s episcopal ordination during the classes, but they did not.

“Anyhow, it is understood that the so-called study classes were to counter the ordination,” the priest said.

“The classes were very strict. No one was allowed to miss them. We had to take an exam on religious regulations and policies and write an account on what we learned at the end,” he said.

Other Church sources told UCA News they believed that the Shanghai government organised the study classes for a variety of reasons: brainwashing priests and nuns, venting officials’ anger, and doing something to appease Chinese officials at the national level.

In late August, the diocese suspended the autumn term at its major and minor seminaries.

Bishop Ma is the first government-approved bishop in recent years to announce publicly that he would give up his duties with the Catholic Patriotic Association, UCA News reported.

Pope Benedict XVI’s 2007 letter to Catholics in China stated that the aim of the patriotic association in upholding the independence of the Church in China was incompatible with Catholic doctrine. However, in his letter, the Pope also recognised the difficult situation of bishops and priests under pressure from the government and said the Holy See “leaves the decision to the individual bishop”, having consulted his priests, “to weigh … and to evaluate the possible consequences” of dealing with government pressures in each given situation.

 

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Another hurtful article by Nicole Winfield of AP about the SSPX

In his interview with the National Catholic Register, posted online in two parts on 2 and 4 October, the Prefect of the CDF, Archbishop Gerhard Müller said of the dealings of Rome and the SSPX:

“I believe that these problems will be resolved in the long term.”

Nicole Winfield of the Associated Press, however, has issued an article which distorts the SSPX situation (purposely?).

Here’s a screenshot of the headline:

This is now all over the internet and will be in every paper and news outlet in the USA.

The problem is, she distorted the actual situation.  Let’s leave aside the perennial and amateurish mistake of referring to “THE VATICAN” when it is a matter of an official of one dicastery.

By they way, the other day Winfield also wrote a cheap-shot piece about the papal butler trial.  HERE.

Winfield seems to be working solely with other people’s reports about the interview Müller did with the German radio station NDR.  That interview was reported on 4 October but was not aired until 6 October.

In the interview Müller said some tough things about the situation with the SSPX.  He indicated that he thought the back-and-forth talks about points of Conciliar documents and doctrine were concluded.  He said that the faith is not negotiable.

However, Archbp. Müller also said:

“In einem pastoralen Sinn ist die Tür immer offen… In a pastoral sense, the door is always open.”

There are also factual errors in Winfield’s piece along with the indications that she was just cribbing European coverage rather than doing her own checking.

Let’s have a look.

VATICAN CITY (AP) — The Vatican’s new doctrine czar[Note the use of political language.] says negotiations to bring back a breakaway group of traditionalist Catholics are dead and that no new talks are planned.  [This doesn’t mean that the Holy See isn’t going to continue to communicate with the SSPX. Even if what Müller said was his hardened position – and ultimately the Pope gets to make these decisions – this would only point to back-and-forth discussions of doctrinal points arising from the Council’s and post-Conciliar documents.  I think we have a case of a Prefect saying too much to the wrong people.  We will see his position gently walked back, even though the hard-core on each end of the spectrum will have nutty in the meantime.]

Reconciling with the Society of St. Pius X – thus ending the only formal schism [It is NOT a formal schism.  Some dispute that and the question is foggy, and it might look a lot like one, but there hasn’t yet been a formal statement from the Holy See that there has been a formal schism.] created since the 1962-65 Second Vatican Council – had been a priority of Pope Benedict XVI since his tenure heading the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

That office’s new chief, Monsignor[Every English-speaking writer – especially those who have worked in Rome – should know that you don’t call an Archbishop “Monsignor” when writing in English.  That is an Italianism.] Gerhard Ludwig Mueller, told Germany’s Norddeutscher Rundfunk broadcaster, however, that “the talks are closed and I don’t believe there are new ones.” [He did not say “dead”.]

“We couldn’t of course expose the Catholic faith to negotiation,” he said. “There are no compromises.’ [And?]

The late Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre founded the society in 1969, opposed to Vatican II’s introduction of Mass in the vernacular and outreach to Jews. [I suppose this frivolous comment guarantees her story will be in the New York Times.] In 1988, the Vatican excommunicated Lefebvre and four bishops after he consecrated them without papal consent.

Benedict has spent nearly his entire seven-year pontificate [?!?  “nearly”?  She makes it sound as if he has been doing nothing else.] seeking to accommodate the society, restoring the use of the old Latin Mass favored by the society’s members, removing the bishops’ excommunications and allowing them two years of theological dialogue with the Vatican.

Aside from being sympathetic to the society’s point of view, Benedict fears the growth of a parallel church that is even more conservative than his own. [“even more”? She gets to the crux of it now: she/AP doesn’t like “conservative”. A more thought observer of the Church, however, will repost that Benedict’s church is not “conservative”.  Benedict may be conservative in some ways, but it is a stretch to say that “his” “church” is.]

But the society, which boasts 550 priests and 200-plus seminarians, refused to sign off on a core set of doctrinal points required by the Vatican to come back into the fold.

“The brotherhood [German: Bruderschaft] for us is not a negotiating partner, because they don’t believe in negotiations,” Mueller said. [This quote smells bad.  What did Müller actually say in his NDR interview? “This fraternity is no partner for negotiations for us, because there is no negotiating the faith.” (“Diese Bruderschaft ist für uns kein Verhandlungspartner, weil es über den Glauben keine Verhandlungen gibt.” )  Again, she didn’t check.]

Mueller is no newcomer to the issue: In 2009, he told the Catholic news agency Zenit that he wanted the society’s seminary in his diocese shut down and the four bishops to resign to live as simple priests “as part of the reparation for the damage that the schism has caused.” [Given the quote above, I wonder if that is what he actually said.]

Given Mueller’s negative view and after the talks broke down earlier this year, the pope named a trusted adviser, Monsignor[AGAIN?  She cribbed European pieces.] Augustine Di Noia, to take charge of negotiations with the society. From Mueller’s comments, however, it appears there’s not much to negotiate.

The society’s most notorious member is Bishop Richard Williamson, who made headlines in 2009 when he denied that any Jews [Again with the Jews?  Okay, Nicole, this will be seen by the NYT.] were killed in gas chambers during the Holocaust. His comments were a major scandal for Benedict since they were broadcast on the same day the decree lifting Williamson’s excommunication was signed.

The Simon Wiesenthal Center on Saturday welcomed the suggestion that talks with the society had broken down and said it hoped the society’s members “will eventually give up their theology of anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial.”

The society has distanced itself from Williamson.

Williams’ piece was irresponsible and hurtful.

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Uhhh… “Demosthenes”!

A sent me the following, with email subject line: “Demosthenes”.

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Look.  Any public speakers can have off moments are resort to vocal pauses and fillers.  But I am weary of hearing people talk about what a great orator he is.

He is NOT a great orator.

Without a teleprompter, he is one of the worst speakers I have ever heard.  His odd speech quirks, once you identify them (e.g., final unvoiced consonants) will make you run from the room.

His reputation as an orator is undeserved.  It always was.  It is now.  It will in the future be wholly undeserved.

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1st Sunday of October: Plenary Indulgence – Supplication to the Madonna of Pompeii

The first Sunday of October is one of the two days of the year for the plenary indulgence by reciting the Supplication to the Madonna of Pompeii. The other day for this is 8 May.

For more about the indulgence and prayers go HERE.

Brief background:

This devotion was started by Bl. Bartolo Longo, who had once been a Satanist “priest”.  He converted, did penance, and became a lay Dominican. In 1872, Longo, a lawyer, went to Pompeii see to the affairs of Countess Marianna Farnararo De Fusco. He started there a Confraternity of the Rosary.  They obtained a picture of the Blessed Virgin from a monastery, which before that was in a second hand store, before which they could recite the Rosary every day.  It showed Mary with Sts. Dominic and Catherine of Siena.  In 1875 Longo received permission to build a church.  Miracles were reported and pilgrimages began.  The picture has been restored several times since then.  Longo also saw to the building of complex for works of mercy with orphans and prisoners.  Pope John Paul II beatified Bartolo Longo in 1980.  Some of his writings form the basis of the Luminous Mysteries of the Rosary.

You reach the sanctuary easily by walking just a few minutes out the back gate of the ancient ruins of Pompeii, famously destroyed  by the eruption of Vesuvius in AD 79.

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It’s 2013 Ordo time!

It is October, and therefore time to start thinking about getting a new Ordo for the 2012-13 liturgical calendar… for the Extraordinary Form, of course!

I returned to the USA from my travel abroad to find waiting for me a copy of the FSSP’s new Ordo for 2013.  You can buy one HERE.

You can see that it is the usual, practical no-frills presentation.

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It lies open, flat.

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Helpful information about abstinence and fasting regs.

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There are appendices with useful documents, including a translation of the rubrics for Mass and the important De defectibus.

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All priests should have a copy of the Ordo for their Rite.  That means, for Roman priests, Latin Church priests, also for the Extraordinary Form of their Rite.

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Game of Thrones: WDTPRS POLL

What can you readers tell me about the show “Game of Thrones“?

I keep hearing good things about the series.

Please DON’T post spoilers.  I (and others) may want to watch it.

Stick to general comments.

I have a POLL open.

Remember: No spoilers in the combox or you shall surely face The Wrath Of The Whatever From High Atop The Thing.

What about "Game of Thrones"

View Results

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Küng calls for – wait for it – DISSENT!

When I see articles about Fr. Hans Küng, I am tempted simply to make popcorn and enjoy the show.

Question to the readers: How long will it take before Fishwrap has some piece which refers approvingly to Küng’s latest?

Here is a taste the reportage from The Guardian:

Catholic theologian preaches revolution to end church’s ‘authoritarian’ rule
Hans Küng urges confrontation from the grassroots to unseat pope and force radical reform at Vatican

Kate Connolly in Tübingen

One of the world’s most prominent Catholic theologians has called for a revolution from below to unseat the pope and force radical reform at the Vatican. [Remember my post about the nuns with scaling ladders at the Vatican’s walls?  HERE]

Hans Küng is appealing to priests and churchgoers to confront the Catholic hierarchy, [Priests are part of the hierarchy.] which he says is corrupt, lacking credibility and apathetic to the real concerns of the church’s members. [In a way, I agree with this.  The overriding concern of the clergy should be to keep as many souls out of hell as possible, rather than serving up a steady stream of self-affirming pabulum.]

In an exclusive interview with the Guardian, Küng, who had close contact with the pope when the two worked together as young theologians, described the church as an “authoritarian system” with parallels to Germany’s Nazi dictatorship. [I invoke Godwin’s Law!]

“The unconditional obedience demanded of bishops who swear their allegiance to the pope when they make their holy oath is almost as extreme as that of the German generals who were forced to swear an oath of allegiance to Hitler,” he said. [ROFL!]

The Vatican made a point of crushing any form of clerical dissent, he added. “The rules for choosing bishops are so rigid that as soon as candidates emerge who, say, stand up for the pill, or for the ordination of women, they are struck off the list.” The result was a church of “yes men”, almost all of whom unquestioningly toed the line.

“The only way for reform is from the bottom up,” [This will send a thrill up the leg of the editor of the Fishwrap.] said Küng, 84, who is a priest. “The priests and others in positions of responsibility need to stop being so subservient, to organise themselves and say that there are certain things that they simply will not put up with anymore.”

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I’m going to miss this guy.  I sincerely hope he is crazy so that he doesn’t go to hell.

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The Empty Chair still has legs

Leaving aside Clint Eastwood’s rambling at the Republican Convention, the old gag of the empty chair, dusted off and placed in the bright lights, left a huge impression.

In the wake of The First Gay President’s hapless debate appearance, and the subsequent liberal melt-down, here is the cover of the new issue of The New Yorker magazine:

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More on CDF Prefect Archbp. Müller and the SSPX

The other day I posted that the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Archbp. Gerhard Müller indicated about the SSPX in an interview with a German radio station that “I don’t think there will be any more new talks” (“Ich glaube, es gibt jetzt keine neuen Gespräche mehr”.)

From CNA:

Archbishop Muller stresses hope as SSPX talks hit impasse

Vatican City, Oct 5, 2012 / 04:50 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- The Vatican’s doctrine head says hope must be maintained for full communion between the Society of St. Pius X and the Catholic Church, despite his telling a German radio network that talks with the society are off for now.

“I’m always confident in our faith and optimistic. We have to pray for goodwill and for unity in the Church,” Archbishop Gerhard Muller, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, told Edward Pentin of the National Catholic Register in September.

This news comes amidst reports he said there would be no further talks with the traditionalist society, after an interview with North German Radio which was reported Oct. 4 and will air Oct. 6.

The Register’s two-part interview was posted online Oct. 2 and 4.  [I mentioned that HERE.]

Archbishop Muller affirmed that the talks are not “a dialogue between two Church partners” and described them as a “brotherly colloquium to overcome difficulties with an authentic interpretation of Catholic doctrine.”

I believe that these problems will be resolved in the long term,” he stated.

The society, the archbishop said, must accept the Pope as head of the Church, “doctrinal pronouncements made since the Second Vatican Council,” and the new Mass as “valid and legitimate.”

The biggest obstacle for the society’s reconciliation has been the teaching on religious liberty in Vatican II, which it claims contradicts previous Catholic teaching.

The Vatican’s head of doctrine said the society has picked up on “a tension arising from the use of terminology,” [“tension”? D’ya think?] and that the texts of Vatican II did not contradict previous teachings.

He noted the importance of a “hermeneutic of continuity” in interpreting the council: “we need an authentic interpretation of the magisterium of the Council,” an interpretation “according to the Tradition.”

In his interview with North German Radio, Archbishop Muller said that “in a pastoral sense, the door is always open” for the members of the society to come into full communion with Rome.

He again affirmed that Vatican II “validly formulated” existing Catholic teaching, and that “there will not be any more new talks” on the faith itself.

He made a similar comment to CNA in a July 20 interview. In that interview he stated that there can be no negotiation of dogmas: “we cannot negotiate on revealed faith; that is impossible.” [I don’t think the SSPX is trying to reformulate or negotiate “revealed faith”.]

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Unitatis redintegratio applied: Episcopal “Bishop” not seated for installation of Archbp. Cordileone

Rex novus in Aegypto.

The other day Archbishop Cordileone was “installed” (a fitting word given the shape of the Cathedral in San Francisco).  You may recall that just days before the installation the Episcopalian (Episcopal) “Bishop” of California, Marc Andrus, wrote a hit piece, distorting Catholic doctrine concerning pastoral care of homosexual persons.  I wrote about Andrus HERE.  Among the ways Andrus bashed the Catholic Church and denigrated Archbp. Cordileone, there was also this:

Claiming that the appointment of Archbishop Cordileone was met with mixed reactions by San Franciscans of “all or no faith tradition,” Bishop Andrus invited Catholics “less at home” with their new bishop to “come to The Episcopal Church.

At the end of my post about “Bishop” Andrus I wrote this:

I hope Archbp. Cordileone declines the first opportunity to share a worship space with this guy.

Stop the presses!

First, the website of the Episcopal Diocese of California issued a statement. (There isn’t a time stamp on the original post HERE, but the update shows that the Piskies fired the first shot).  In that first statement, the Episcopalians explain that Andrus was not allowed to participate at the installation of Archbishop Cordileone.

In an article from local SF press we read that the archdiocesan spokesman says that this was all a misunderstanding.  Andrus was late and they were trying to figure out how to get him worked in.  However, I have not seen anything on the website of the Archdiocese of San Francisco.  Another straight news story about the event is HERE, adding that the spokesman spoke with AP.

But wait! There’s more.

Then Andrus, on his blog, subsequently disputes the archdiocesan spokesman’s claim, saying that he was in fact on time, etc. etc.  “Bishop” Andrus described on his blog what happened.  My emphases.

My experience at the installation of Archbishop Cordileone

A post to clarify my experience at the installation of Archbishop Cordileone at St. Mary’s Cathedral, San Francisco.

I was dropped off at the cathedral at 1:30PM by my assistant. After making my way around protestors and showing my invitation to security guards, I was in the lower level area to which I was directed by 1:40.

The instructions the Archdiocese had given my assistant were that I should be at St. Mary’s by 1:45. The service was scheduled to begin at 2.

I identified myself to an assistant to the archbishop, who spoke to someone through a headset, saying, “Bishop Andrus is here.”

I saw the Greek Metropolitan, a good colleague of mine, who was in the same room with me, several Greek Orthodox priests, archdiocesan employees and security guards. I greeted the metropolitan and we spoke briefly.

An archdiocesan employee attempted to escort me upstairs with the Greek Orthodox group, but was stopped from doing so by the employee to whom I had first identified myself. This person, who appeared to be in a superior role, instructed another employee to stand with me.

At this point no other guests remained in the downstairs area. The employee and I chatted while waiting. I began to wonder about the time holdup. I checked my phone; it was 1:50PM. I asked the employee standing with me if the service indeed started at 2, which she affirmed.

At 2PM, when the service was to begin, I said to the employee, “I think I understand, and feel I should leave.” Her response was, “Thank you for being understanding.” I quietly walked out the door. No one attempted to stop me. No attempt was ever made to explain the delay or any process for seating. I arrived early, before the time given my assistant, and waited to leave until after the service had begun.

My intention for attending the installation was to honor our ecumenical and interfaith relations in the Bay Area.

Regardless of possible misunderstandings or of possible pre-meditated plans, the fact remains that “Bishop” Andrus, who had bashed the Catholic Church just days before, was not seated for the installation of Archbp. Cordileone.

That’s just fine with me.

We need a new approach to ecumenism that does NOT include lying on the ground and letting ourselves be kicked by our partners in dialogue.

UPDATE:

More from the Episcopal Digital Network.  HERE

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