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ZUHLIO RETURNS: “Where Have All The Sisters Gone”?

Posted on 1 December 2012 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

The Official Parodohymnodist of Fr. Z’s Blog has inspired – I don’t know how he does it – has inspired – or even why he does it – has inspired to emerge from retirement

ZUHLIO!

Yes, after the triumphant reemergence from retirement last time to produce his hit song “Lady Tambourine Priest“, after his even bigger hit song “Aging Hippie Paradise“, the urban rapper Zuhlio is back, experimenting with yet another genre.

Zuhlio inexplicably seems to be going back in time in exploring musical styles. Well… what can we say?

We present, in honor of liberal, less and less remembered dissident nuns everywhere,

Where Have All the Sisters Gone? (in the style of the Kingston Trio)

As the Parodohymnodist himself quipped: “Get out your guitars and autoharps.”

Where have all the Sisters gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the Sisters gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the Sisters gone?
All dissenters, ‘cept for some.
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where have all dissenters gone?
Long time passing
Where have all dissenters gone?
Long time ago
Where have all dissenters gone?
Call to Action conventions.
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where has all the action gone?
Long time passing
Where has all the action gone?
Long time ago
Where has all the action gone?
Lifeless ‘cause of contraception
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where have contraceptors gone?
Long time passing
Where have contraceptors gone?
Long time ago
Where have contraceptors gone?
Hopeless rest homes, or passed on.
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Where then has our hope all gone?
Long time passing
Where then has our hope all gone?
Long time ago
Where then has our hope all gone?
Young nuns who put habits on.
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Original HERE

Zuhlio – Where Have All The Sisters Gone?

Posted in Liberals, Lighter fare, Magisterium of Nuns, Parody Songs, Women Religious | Tagged Call To Action, contraception, Kingston Trio, liberal nuns, liberals, Parody Songs, women religious, Zuhlio
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Just … wonderful… for St. Andrew

Posted on 30 November 2012 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

I often listen to the Office sung by the Benedictine monks at Norcia and at Le Barroux.

Just for nice, here is the hymn for Vespers for St. Andrew, Apostle, sung by the monks at Le Barroux.

The monks sing a variation of this hymn. I am too tired to look up the exact variation. Sorry. Maybe one of you kind people can do that.

Hymnus
Exsultet orbis gaudiis:
Cælum resúltet láudibus:
Apostolórum glóriam
Tellus et astra concinunt.

Vos sæculórum iúdices,
Et vera mundi lúmina:
Votis precámur córdium,
Audíte voces súpplicum.

Qui templa cæli cláuditis,
Serásque verbo sólvitis,
Nos a reátu noxios
Solvi iubete, quæsumus.

Præcépta quorum protinus
Languor salusque sentiunt:
Sanáte mentes languidas:
Augete nos virtútibus.

Ut, cum redibit arbiter
In fine Christus sæculi,
Nos sempitérni gáudii
Concedat esse cómpotes.

* Patri, simúlque Fílio,
Tibique Sancte Spíritus,
Sicut fuit, sit iúgiter
Sæclum per omne glória.
Amen.

Hymn
Now let the earth with joy resound,
And heaven the chant re-echo round;
Nor heaven nor earth too high can raise
The great Apostles’ glorious praise.

O ye who, throned in glory dread,
Shall judge the living and the dead,
Lights of the world forevermore!
To you the suppliant prayer we pour.

Ye close the sacred gates on high;
At your command apart they fly:
Oh! loose for us the guilty chain
We strive to break, and strive in vain.

Sickness and health your voice obey;
At your command they go or stay:
From sin’s disease our souls restore;
In good confirm us more and more.

So when the world is at its end,
And Christ to judgement shall descend,
May we be called those joys to see
Prepared from all eternity.

* Praise to the Father, with the Son,
And Holy Spirit, Three in One;
As ever was in ages past,
And so shall be while ages last.
Amen.

Posted in Just Too Cool, Liturgy Science Theatre 3000, Our Catholic Identity | Tagged Le Barroux, St. Andrew
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Bad news for the critics of the new ICEL translation. No surprise for the rest of us.

Posted on 30 November 2012 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

This Saturday/Sunday is the liturgical 1st Anniversary of the implementation of the new, corrected ICEL translation in the USA. I have been exchanging emails today about the findings of Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate (CARA) at Georgetown University concerning how the new translation has been received. Their press release is HERE.

Bad news for the critics of the translation. Anyone with common sense knew how this was going to turn out.

And then there is this:

84% agree or strongly agree from among those who go to Mass weekly or more often.

But keep looking. Even among the rarely or nevers, 63% agree.

OORAH!

And there is this. Look at the changes in 2012 (left) compared to 2011 (right):

And, back to the issue of how often people go to Mass…

Interesting.

Posted in SESSIUNCULA | Tagged CARA, Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate, ICEL, Mass attendance, new corrected translation, translation
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REVIEW: A Field Guide for the Hero’s Journey. “If you want to be a hero, you can be.”

Posted on 30 November 2012 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

In another entry I mentioned a new book by Fr. Robert Sirico called A Field Guide for the Hero’s Journey.

US paperback HERE and Kindle HERE.

UK paperback HERE Kindle HERE.

Here is a blurb from the book:

Do you feel like something big is missing from your life? Do you feel trapped, bored, stuck in a meaningless routine? It may be you think you’re too ordinary to ever do something special. Perhaps you’re afraid that if you try, you’ll fail. The startling truth is this: Just about anyone can do great things, can live a life that’s remarkable, purposeful, excellent, and yes, even heroic. If you want to be a hero, you can be. How? That’s what this book is all about. Will you choose to do it? Will you decide to journey heroically, instead of spending your life merely marking time? If so, this is the book for you. Welcome to your heroic journey.

The book is not overtly Catholic, and you could give it to anyone. It should have a wide appeal. If we read it with a Catholic lens, we will see that the book is also making an appeal to us to live a life of heroic virtue.

The book is a collection of short pieces on certain perennial human questions and challenges. Each section is followed with some questions and suggestions.

Here is part of the Table of Contents, so you can see what is going on:

Introduction: Calling All Heroes (Could This Mean You?)

1. The First Step 1
My First Step—Jeff Sandefer 2
Asking Life’s Deep Questions—Rev. Robert Sirico 3
The Man in the Arena—Theodore Roosevelt 5
Can’t—Edgar A. Guest 6
Things Not Done Before—Edgar A. Guest 7
The Lark and Her Young Ones—Aesop 8 [I love that throughout they included Aesop! 7 times!]
Psalm of Life—Henry Wadsworth Longfellow 9

2. Who Am I, and Who Do I Want to Become?
[…]

3. The Importance of Setting Guardrails
[…]

4. What Companions Do You Want with You on Your Journey?
[…]

5. Stones in the Road
[…]

6. The Giant of Despair
[…]

7. Rest
[…]

8. Fighting the Dragon
[…]

9. Coming Home
[…]

The fact is, every single person born into this world is called to holiness. We should strive for holiness and a life of virtue even to a heroic degree. As I wrote elsewhere:

“But Father! But Father!”, some of you are about to say. “Heroic virtue? Really? How can any of us aspire to such a thing! That’s sounds terribly difficult!”

It isn’t easy, but it is possible.

We are all called to be saints. God wouldn’t ask something of us that isn’t possible. And when He asks things that are hard, He also provides the means and the occasions. Even in your suffering, for example, or your obscurity, you can serve Him. God knew you before the creation of the material universe. He called you into being now, in this world. Of all the possible worlds God could have created, He created this world, into which you would be born. He has a plan and purpose your you, if you will embrace it.

The “heroism” to which we are called does not consist mainly in great or famous or dramatic acts or accomplishments. It might include those, but it does not mainly consist of those. Every person has the possibility of this sort of heroism, even if he does nothing spectacular. When it comes to the causes of saints, very often people with more dramatic or famous lives comes to the attention of others, and therefore they are more likely to be the subjects of causes.

Living a virtuous life even in the tedium of routine or the obscurity of everyday living can be heroic.

Accepting God’s will, living in conformity with God’s will is the true test of a Christian. That is the essence of “heroic” virtue, not what appears outwardly to be heroic (though that may also be heroic, as in the dramatic case of the martyr).

Furthermore, people don’t, except by a rare gift from God, instantly or easily attain the state of living a life of virtue heroically. Virtues are habits. Some virtues, the theological virtues, are infused into us by God with baptism and sacraments. They “dwell” in us “habitually” (“dwell” and “habit” are etymologically related… think of a “habitat” where critters “dwell”). Virtues are habits, good practices and attitudes which are in us to a degree that it is easy for us to do them rather than hard. This usually takes time and maturity. We don’t suddenly, except by a special grace, become virtuous. It can take a whole lifetime and many stumbles along the way.

Okay… I am digressing, but not really

US paperback HERE and Kindle HERE.

UK paperback HERE Kindle HERE.

I will also remind you of a book I mentioned a while back, put together by another priest, Fr. Richard Heilman, Church Militant Field Manual: Special Forces Training For The Life In Christ.

Fr. Heilman, started a men’s group called The Knights of Divine Mercy. This book is their “field manual” to help them get “God Strong”. We belong to the Church militant after all. Book HERE Kindle HERE.

Posted in "How To..." - Practical Notes, Brick by Brick, Linking Back, REVIEWS, The Drill, The future and our choices, Year of Faith | Tagged Call To Holiness, Fr. Heliman, Fr. Sirico, heroes, heroic virtue, Knights of Divine Mercy
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Summus pipiabit Pontifex!

Posted on 30 November 2012 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

FOLLOW UP:

3 December: His account is up and running: @Pontifex

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On Monday we will find out what the Pope’s new Twitter handle is.

There will be a press conference in Rome on Monday to reveal more details about what His Holiness of our Lord is going to be doing (read: what some others will be doing for him).

Were I still in the press corps there I would ask: “How often will the Holy Father be tweeting? How much does he intend to compose the tweets himself? Will he write them long hand and then have someone do it for him? Will they be simultaneously in other languages? What details did you have to work out with Twitter before this could happen?”

I am pretty sure Pope Benedict doesn’t use a smart phone. Didn’t someone give him an iPad? I think Vatican Radio gave him an iPod.

I have other questions.

Pope Benedict has sent one tweet already, for the launch of the site news.va. The new venture will be from his own, official account.

I suspect the Pope won’t be tweeting in Latin, though that would be great. Maybe his first Tweet? But it would have to followed by the same text in the usual languages. Babel redivivus. Latin is denser, however. Something to consider. Latin for “tweet, v.” should be something like pipio or titio, and “tweet, n.” pipiatum or titiatum, and Twitter pipiatio or titiatio. I prefer the “p” line of thought, to the “t” here. I had a post and a poll on this, by the way, HERE.

Here is the POLL again.

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One can only speculate about what handle he will use.

I will add, finally, that I don’t think Popes should tweet. There, I said it. Yes, I know about social media and the New Evangelization. They didn’t ask me my opinion. So, if it is going to happen, I might as well embrace it.

Choose your best answer and give your reasons in the combox. You don’t have to be registered to vote, but you do have to have an approved registration to post.

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Posted in Benedict XVI, New Evangelization, The Drill, Year of Faith | Tagged Benedict XVI, pipiatio, polls, pope, tweet, Twitter
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CDF Prefect Archbp. Müller: “the hermeneutic of reform” is “only possible interpretation”

Posted on 30 November 2012 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

My old pastor, the late Msgr. Schuler used to say that “You can go into the ditch on either side of the road, left or right. Either way, you are still in a ditch.”

This has been my concern about some members and followers of the SSPX. Can they wind up stuck in the ditch, but on the opposite side of the road from where the LCWR and NCR and Tablistas are mired? I think that is possible, yes.

I don’t think it is all that easy to get yourself into the ditch, since Holy Church is pretty flexible when it comes to some things. Not so much in others, of course. And it is easier by far to go off the road to the left. The shoulder tilts over there and the Enemy of the Soul, it seems to me, is generally ignored on that side, to the peril of all who stray thither.

When in December 2005 the Holy Father spoke to the Roman Curia about a “hermeneutic of discontinuity and rupture” – one of the most important acts of his pontificate, by the way – he was actually talking about modern theologians, not the traditionalists who refuse it the “left”, to stick with the political label for brevity. In fact, I think the Pope was actually carrying on a polemic against Rahner and his allies and legacy. But the fact is, discontinuity and rupture can also take place with the refusal of new authentic magisterial teachings. The road has a ditch on both sides.

From the UK’s best Catholic weekly, The Catholic Herald, comes this, with my emphases and comments.

Prefect of the CDF says seeing Vatican II as a ‘rupture’ is heresy

By Carol Glatz

Traditionalist and progressive camps that see the Second Vatican Council as a “rupture” both espouse a “heretical interpretation” of the Council and its aims, the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) has said. [That’s sure to win hearts far and wide! But it is refreshing to see the word “heretical”.]

Archbishop Gerhard Müller said that what Pope Benedict XVI has termed “the hermeneutic of reform, of renewal in continuity” is the “only possible interpretation according to the principles of Catholic theology”. [I can see now what some on the left are going to do with this. They will say that Muller says that if you don’t agree with the Pope on Vatican II, then you are a heretic. They won’t make any distinctions about the actual texts in question. Thinking they have scored a point against traddies, they will lose sight of the fact that they themselves are pretty far from the Pope’s view of Vatican II. Moreover, the Holy Father’s interpretation of Vatican II texts isn’t right merely because it is the interpretation of the Holy Father. That helps, of course, when it comes to revealed truth. But there are sound ways to interpret the Church’s documents and bad ways. This Pope is right because he grasps the correct way of interpretation apart from the fact that he is also given the graces of the Petrine Office.]

“Outside this sole orthodox interpretation unfortunately exists a heretical interpretation, that is, a hermeneutic of rupture, [found] both on the progressive front and on the traditionalist” side, the archbishop said.

[And now what I have been saying for years here…]What the two camps have in common, he said, is their rejection of the council: “The progressives in their wanting to leave it behind, as if it were a season to abandon in order to get to another Church, and the traditionalists in their not wanting to get there”, seeing the council as a Catholic “winter”. [Sadly, heresy and other problems creep in through stressing points that are true. In a sense, we have to get on with things, a liberals want. But in truth that is because Vatican II, over now for close to 50 years, wasn’t nearly as important in the list of Councils as they think it was. On the other side, since the Vatican II wasn’t nearly as important as many think, those on the traditionalist side must absorb it, stop insisting that it either isn’t a Council or that it must be interpreted in the most negative light possible, and move along with the rest.]

A “Council presided over by the successor of Peter as head of the visible Church” is the “highest expression” of the Magisterium, he said, to be regarded as part of “an indissoluble whole”, along with Scripture and 2,000 years of tradition. [That doesn’t mean that everything issued by the Council is of equal weight or value.]

The doctrinal chief’s remarks were published in the Vatican newspaper, L’Osservatore Romano, to present the seventh volume of The Complete Works of Joseph Ratzinger. The volume collects both published and unpublished notes, speeches, interviews and texts written or given by the future pope in the period shortly before, during and just after Vatican II.

Archbishop Müller specified that by “continuity” Pope Benedict meant a “permanent correspondence with the origin, not an adaption of whatever has been, which also can lead the wrong way”.

The term “aggiornamento” or updating – one of the watchwords of the Council – “does not mean the secularisation of the faith, which would lead to its dissolution”, but a “making present” of the message of Jesus Christ, he said. [Hear that, Fishwrap?]

This “making present” is the “reform necessary for every era in constant fidelity to the whole Christ”, he said.

“The tradition of apostolic origin continues in the Church with help from the Holy Spirit,” he said, and leads to greater understanding through contemplation and study, intelligence garnered from a deeper experience of the spiritual, and preaching by those who through the “apostolic succession have received an assured charism of truth”.

To my mind, just as deadly, if not more deadly, is a ignorance of the Faith of which Pope Benedict spoke to French bishops during their “ad limina” visit. HERE. This is something of which the people in the left-side ditch are far more guilty than those in the right-side ditch.

BOTTOM LINE:

If we want the Holy Father and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to correct liberals who are going into the ditch on the left, then we must also want correction for those straying to the right side of the road as well.

That is the trend I am seeing since the new Prefect has taken up his office at the Holy Office.

Moreover, were I a liberal, I’d be far more worried than any traditionalist needs to be.

Posted in "How To..." - Practical Notes, Benedict XVI, New Evangelization, Our Catholic Identity, The Drill, Year of Faith | Tagged aggiornamento, Archbp. Müller, Benedict XVI, December 2005, discontinuity, heresy, hermeneutic of discontinuity and rupture, hermeneutic of reform, SSPX, traditionalists
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Who are these ‘c’atholic liberals? Young Catholics don’t know and don’t care.

Posted on 30 November 2012 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

I recently posted about Sr. Joan Chittister and the Council of Elders. HERE.

Judging from my email feedback about that post, I realize that many of my visitors have never heard of the Council of Elders. Many would never have heard of Sr. Joan Chittister without reading about her here.

I have recently written about Richard McBrien, Charles Curran, Bernard Häring….

Who?

As it turns out, younger people, younger committed Catholics, simply don’t know who these liberals are.

I guess there is a generation gap on Fr. Z’s Blog.

Consider this. When Sr. Joan and the civil-rights era, war-protesting era “Council of Elders” went to help out the Occupiers near Wall Street, the Occupiers had no idea who they were.

Here is the site of the Fellowship of Reconciliation (Remember them? No?) which conveys their lament:

These leaders and all of the Elders constitute the best of the best in respect to shaping progressive social thought and redemptive nonviolent action.

But there were two problems:

Large numbers of Occupiers “don’t know much about history” and therefore had no idea who was in their midst, and…

They found it possible to treat the Elders’ declaration and direct involvement as not worthy of their notice.

Nobody under the age of 40 knows who these people are.

Furthermore, they don’t care about who these people ever were.

I was talking with a priest friend today about the fact that virtually all the American seminarians we know were not educated by women religious. Neither is the National Catholic Reporter on their radar screens. The NCR was ubiquitous back in the day… lo those many years ago. They and their ilk had a strangle-hold. Now-aging-liberals propped it up in parishes and seminaries and religious houses, squelching other voices such as The Wanderer and alternative Catholic news sources and opinions. In those days only one interpretation of Vatican II was licit, nay rather, was all holy! Dissident from their dissent was forbidden, dangerous to a seminarian’s vocation or a priest’s career.

The Biological Solution is taking care of that. It is taking care of The Wanderer too, I’m afraid, because they haven’t adapted their print media to the needs of a new digital age and skyrocketing printing and mailing costs. But that is another kettle of chowder.

It is sometimes hard for me to remember that younger people, I mean younger committed Catholics, certainly seminarians, younger priests and now a rapidly growing number of bishops, don’t give a damn about anything the Fishwrap says. They don’t share the narrow vision of a still widespread but rapidly weakening discontinuity and rupture.

Young people have nothing invested in that agenda. The few that do are exceptions to the rule.

Seminarians I know, if they see the NCR, just shake their head, marveling. Perhaps they smile a little.

The indifference this new generation of priests has concerning the liberal catholic agenda will inevitably have a huge knock-on effect in the parishes they will lead and the classrooms they will teach in.

Meanwhile, it is sometimes hard for me to remember that I, too, am in certain ways now on the other side of the generational gap.

Don’t get me wrong. I will still write about the Fishwrap with all good cheer! They don’t get to have a free ride. And, face it, posts about their quirky ideas and dissident hijinx practically write themselves.

But in the future I had better keep in mind that I am still suffering from the post-traumatic stress disorder of those times. I still remember that the aging-liberals were once relevant. Younger, committed Catholics don’t have those memories.

Posted in Liberals | Tagged Biological Solution, Council of Elders, Fellowship of Reconciliation, Fishwrap, National Catholic Reporter, New Evangelization, Sr. Joan Chittister
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Super Moon v. Micro Moon

Posted on 29 November 2012 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

From NASA’s Astronomy Pic of the Day:

Explanation: Did you see the big, bright, beautiful Full Moon Wednesday night? That was actually a Micro Moon! On that night, the smallest Full Moon of 2012 reached its full phase only about 4 hours before apogee, the most distant point from Earth in the Moon’s elliptical orbit. Of course, earlier this year on May 6, a Full Super Moon was near perigee, the closest point in its orbit. The relative apparent size of November 28’s Micro Moon (right) is compared to the famous May 6 Super Moon in these two panels, matching telescopic images from Bucharest, Romania. The difference in apparent size represents a difference in distance of just under 50,000 kilometers between apogee and perigee, given the Moon’s average distance of about 385,000 kilometers. How long do you have to wait to see another Full Micro Moon? Until January 16, 2014, when the lunar full phase will occur within about 3 hours of apogee.

Mark your calenders!

Posted in Just Too Cool, Look! Up in the sky! | Tagged apogee, Micro Moon, perigee, Super Moon
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Fr. Sirico: Politics isn’t the solution to our economic problems

Posted on 29 November 2012 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

CNA has an article about my friend Fr. Robert Sirico of the Acton Institute (btw… Acton University: June 18 – 21, 2013).

My emphases and comments.

Rome, Italy, Nov 29, 2012 / 01:33 pm (CNA).- The solution to the ongoing economic troubles is to adopt a worldview that combines both economic and moral truths, Father Robert Sirico said as he presented his new book. [Not new in the USA or to readers of this blog. I wrote about it HERE.]

Father Robert Sirico, co-founder of the Acton Institute think tank, introduced his book titled “Defending the Free Market: the Moral Case for a Free Economy” on Nov. 28 in Rome.

[Hardback HERE, Kindle HERE. (UK HERE). And if you don’t have a Kindle yet, consider getting one. I love mine.]

“I wrote the book because I was concerned that there’s such a false set of assumptions of what a market economy is and that it’s completely disconnected from the moral life,” he explained.

[…]

Fr. Sirico, originally from Brooklyn, said that his approach to economics is anthropological and combines economic truths with moral ones.

When it comes to the current economic crisis, Fr. Sirico faults regulations that were based only on good intentions. [They wind up hurting the people they were intended to help. For example, when Haiti was torn up by the earthquake, it was thought that bringing in solar energy equipment could help many people. All sorts of things were imported. But there was already a company in Haiti. The imports hurt that company and the people who worked for it. The local company should have been helped.]

“The intentions were that people would have access to credit to buy homes, but the problem is that good intentions aren’t always the sound basis for sound economics,” he said.

He noted that “it’s going to be difficult for young Italians to reach adulthood with their dignity intact for quite a while, because they presume that the State will provide for them, cradle to grave.”

“Also they don’t have much access to work, which incentivizes them to stay at home, which delays them from getting married and having children,” he said. “You then have fewer and fewer Italians supporting the elderly and this becomes a vicious cycle.”

Fr. Sirico believes that Italians need to rethink how they and their government handle the economy.

The priest, who disagrees with the notion that the way for a business to succeed is to take advantage of others, said the solution is to apply subsidiarity, which means that needs are best met at a local level.

“We need to stop presuming that the government is the provider and find creative and innovative ways which can serve people and which will build a virtuous cycle instead of a vicious cycle,” said Fr. Sirico.

“You get clients by offering them a better service and product quality, which is unique to them and meets their needs,” he stated. “It’s service that people need to prioritize, not taking advantage.”

Looking to the future, Fr. Sirico thinks there are “bumpy years ahead of us.”

“The root of all our political and civic thinking in the U.S. and in Europe is that the government has the dominant role in our lives,” he argued.

Instead of this model, he thinks that the role of government needs to shrink and the ”civic voluntary dimension of society” needs to increase.

“Unless we correct ideas, nothing else is going to work because politics isn’t the solution to this problem,” he said.

I would like also to point everyone to a new book that Fr. Sirico cooperated in putting together.

US paperback HERE and Kindle HERE.

UK paperback HERE Kindle HERE.

Posted in "How To..." - Practical Notes, Linking Back, The Drill, The future and our choices | Tagged Acton Institute, Fr. Sirico, free markets
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QUAERITUR: When is the “Rorate Caeli” chant to be sung?

Posted on 29 November 2012 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

From a priest:

I have exhausted every possible avenue, and I cannot answer the following question myself.

This coming Advent – which is only my second Advent celebrating the EF – I am still not sure when to say the Rorate Coeli.

It doesn’t appear in my version of the 1962 missal but handouts (http://maternalheart.org/propers.html) suggest it follows the Gospel. Is it said at a low mass and sung at a missa cantata?

Last year, because we just began, I did my best. This year, though, I want to do it right.

Any help in this area would be appreciated.

First, I am so glad that you want to “do it right”.

Let us assume you mean this beautiful Advent chant:

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Otherwise, there are other uses of the text “Rorate caeli…germinet Salvatorem” in the Mass and the Office. But keep in mind that it is not formally a part of the liturgy at all.

Within the Mass, the chant can be used as a cantus ad libitum to cover the Offertory or Communion (hopefully after the propers!).

At Benediction it can be sung during Exposition (at the beginning).

If you are celebrating Low Mass in the Usus Antiquior with hymns, you could use it in any of the usual places (entrance, offertory, communion, exit).

This is a great chant which ought to be sung by all Catholics everywhere.

BTW, the Benedictine nuns of Mary Queen of Apostles have Rorate caeli on their new album of music of Advent.