QUAERITUR: Communion patens or plates

From a reader:

Could you please explain the difference between "patena" and "patina" in the Latin original of paragraph 118 of the Institutio Generalis Missalis Romani (2002)?  In the English, this is translated as "paten" and "Communion plate", respectively.  The instruction Redemptionis Sacramentum, #93, says "The Communion-plate for the Communion of the faithful should be retained, so as to avoid the danger of the sacred host or some fragment of it falling", and references IGMR 118.  The Latin in RS for "Communion-plate" is again patina. 

At the EF Masses I attend, the altar server always extends a "paten" below the communicant’s neck to prevent the loss of particles.  Is there a different implement for the Novus Ordo or am I misunderstanding something?  Local clergy have vehemently resisted the reintroduction of the paten at the OF, and my understanding is that the Chancery has discouraged traditional-minded priests from using the paten.

I wouldn’t worry about the spelling difference between patina (in RS) and patena in (GIRM).  Those are simple variations in spelling and they mean the same thing, the plate or shallow dish, with or without a handle, borne under the Host has it is being conveyed to the hand or mouth so as to help avoid the falling and therefore loss of particles.

I would be very surprised if "the Chancery" has discouraged something the Church’s documents ask to be retained.  You might seek a clarification what they mean by that.
 

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Fr. Finigan on an annual indulgence: anniversary of baptism

Did you know that you can gain an indulgence on the anniversary of your baptism?

his Hermeneuticalness, Fr. Tim Finigan, has an entry on this and a useful entry on baptismal certificates.

Getting a baptismal certificate

I am very glad to have helped people by publicising the plenary indulgence that is offered on the anniversary of one’s baptism. Some people are not sure of the date of their Baptism and might like to find out. Here is some advice on how to do so.

Every parish keeps a permanent register of Baptisms. This is one of the most important things that the parish possesses. If things are done properly, your confirmation should also be recorded and also your marriage (or religious profession, or ordination.)

A "Baptism Certificate" is a copy of the entry that is made in the Baptismal register. If you are getting married, you need to supply a recent baptismal certificate (within six months of the wedding) which will then also record that there are "no other entries" (i.e. no previous marriage recorded) and that you are "free to marry". I always send for these myself but some priests ask the Catholic party(ies) in the wedding to obtain them. It is also OK to ask for a Baptismal certificate if you just want to know when your baptism was.

If you want to get a certificate of Baptism, send a letter addressed to the parish priest of the parish where you were baptised. Give your full name (as it was at the time of your baptism if your name has subsequently changed.) Give your date of birth and roughly when the Baptism took place. If you were baptised as a baby it is sufficient to say this but if you were baptised at three or four years old, it will help the parish priest if you tell him this; and enclose a stamped addressed envelope just to make things a little easier!

My own practice now is to photocopy the entry onto parish letterhead and then sign date and stamp it.

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Some of the places where you are…

I am always amazed at the variety of places around the world where people are as they come to visit the blog.

Don’t feel bad if you don’t see your exact location, or even near miss.  This is just a snapshot.

We know that often these place names are approximations, and I eliminated the "unknowns" and vague locations such as "Canada".

Omaha, Nebraska
Reigate, Surrey
Houston, Texas
Saint Paul, Minnesota
Auckland
Chula Vista, California
Skjold, Rogaland
Mount Vernon, Washington
Santa Fe, New Mexico
Owego, New York
Wijchen, Gelderland
Corning, California
Maastricht, Limburg
Jamestown, North Dakota
Casa Grande, Arizona
Villanova, Pennsylvania    
Havertown, Pennsylvania
Yarmouth Port, Massachu…
Scranton, Pennsylvania
Lansing, Michigan
Toronto, Ontario
Greenville, South Carol…
Warsaw, Warszawa
Oxford, Oxfordshire
Crown Point, Indiana
Alpharetta, Georgia
Charlotte, North Carolina
Cincinnati, Ohio
Lee, Illinois
Kilcock, Kildare
Martinsville, New Jersey
Minneapolis, Minnesota
Hemel Hempstead, Hertford
Westbury, New York
Los Angeles, California
Kansas City, Missouri
Oakland, California
Manila
Calgary, Alberta
Spoleto, Umbria
Sugar Land, Texas
Salinas, California
Klagenfurt, Karnten
Sotteville-ls-Rouen, Ha…
Saint Louis, Missouri
Memphis, Tennessee
Stuttgart, Baden-Wurtte…
Franklin, Tennessee
Sotteville-ls-Rouen, Ha…
Saint Louis, Missouri
Memphis, Tennessee
Stuttgart, Baden-Wurtte…
Franklin, Tennessee
Gainesville, Florida
Wichelen, Oost-Vlaanderen
Toronto, Ontario
Rockville, Maryland
Philadelphia, Pennsylva…
Mount Prospect, Illinois
Collegeville, Minnesota
Tempe, Arizona
Grantham, Lincolnshire
Lawn, Pennsylvania
Pittsburg, Kansas
Leasburg, Missouri
Seattle, Washington
London, London, City of
Forest Park, Georgia
Rome, Lazio
Greensboro, North Carol…
Pensacola, Florida
Longview, Texas
Midway, Florida
High Wycombe, Buckingha…
Brice, Ohio
Duncan, South Carolina
Koleen, Indiana
Brighton, East Sussex
Voorschoten, Zuid-Holland
Saint Henry, Ohio
Manchester
Chesapeake, Virginia

 

Liverpool
Ostrw Wielkopolski, Kal…
Heusenstamm, Hessen
Pomona, California
Syracuse, New York
Catonsville, Maryland
Columbus, Ohio
Traverse City, Michigan
Huntingdon Valley, Penn…
Latrobe, Pennsylvania
Dubuque, Iowa
Melbourne, Victoria
Hanover, New Hampshire
Niceville, Florida
Salinas, California
Round Rock, Texas
San Antonio, Texas
Essex, Maryland
San Antonio, Texas
Grand Rapids, Michigan
Washington, District of…
Dallas, Texas
Los Angeles, California
Edmonton, Alberta
San Diego, California
Calgary, Alberta
Vancouver, British Colu…
Dallas, Texas
Flint, Michigan
Chicago, Illinois
Heilbronn, Baden-Wurtte…
Owings Mills, Maryland
Victoria, Texas
Henderson, Nevada
Victoria, British Colum…
Solvang, California
Mazomanie, Wisconsin
Austin, Texas
Encinitas, California
Crescent City, California
Las Vegas, Nevada
South El Monte, Califor…
Singapore
Springfield, Virginia
Le Pr-Saint-Gervais, Il…
Bronx, New York
London, London, City of
New Delhi, Delhi
Dekalb, Illinois
Vienna, Wien
Germantown, Maryland
Wichita, Kansas
San Leandro, California
Brisbane, Queensland
New York
San Jose, California
Stockport
Breda, Noord-Brabant
Ocean Shores, Washington
League City, Texas
Conway, Arkansas
Princeton, New Jersey
Philadelphia, Pennsylva…
Albuquerque, New Mexico
Calgary, Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta
Providence, Rhode Island
Atlanta, Georgia
Huntington Beach, Calif…
Renton, Washington
Victoria, British Colum…
Saint Marys, Ontario
New Rochelle, New York
Spokane, Washington
London, London, City of
New Haven, Connecticut
Arlington, Virginia
Dartford, Kent
Ostrw Wielkopolski, Kal…
Heusenstamm, Hessen
Fort Lauderdale, Florida
Washington, District of…

 

 

 

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Fr. Z to England

I will be heading to England, through the help of WDTPRSers who contributed to the trip.

Now, I need to get an itinerary together.

There will perhaps be chances for a couple blogniks!

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QUAERITUR: Stations of the Cross – photos of poor people, not the Lord

From a reader:

While on a college visit in Virginia, my son and I visited the Campus Catholic Ministry and noticed the room that was used for Mass had “Stations of the Cross” around the periphery.  I use quotes because rather than having the traditional relief/pictured depictions of our Lord’s passion, there were instead photographs of impoverished people (mainly African or Asian) with a caption under each. For instance, the tenth station (Jesus is stripped of his garments) shows an African wearing ragged clothes.  The entire collection has no image of Christ, but of various 3rd world scenes.

I suppose the purpose is to direct our attention to the needs of our less fortunate, but doesn’t this take away from our true devotion?  Sacramentals are such an important part of our faith, it seems a shame that some can change them to suit their wants, instead of the desires of the Church.  This practice is reminiscent of the “touchdown Jesus” one sees in many modern Catholic churches. 

Is there anything codified for the proper display of statues, images, etc?  I’d like to discuss this with the pastor, but would like to know if there’s any rules being broken.

First, Stations of the Cross must be "erected" by the proper authority, usually the diocesan bishop or his delegate.

The Enchiridion Indulgentiarum speaks of the images as those of the "stations" of the way in Jersusalem.

 

I believe there can be only numbers as well.

But if you have images that are not of the Lord’s way?

You might write a letter to the local bishop if you see such a thing or, if that produces no answer, to the both the Sacra Penitenzieria Apostolica and the Congregation for Divine Worship.

That just doesn’t sound right to me.

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QUAERITUR: TLMs in modern churches in far-flung places

From a reader:

I am soon moving to a rather desolate and remote location in the world: Alaska. I know there are a lot of "issues" with the churches where I am going but one of my biggest concerns is not being able to go to an EF Mass whenever I feel like it. The area I am going has only had 1 EF Mass since the MP in 2007. So my question is this:

What are the requirements, in regards to the church itself, to hold a valid, licit, EF Mass? I know that the altar is important and the steps, but what if you don’t have a church within hundreds of miles that has that? Can you have an EF mass at a "new style" church?

Also… can a priest come to do that, from outside the diocese? I know that if the congregation wants the mass, the bishop is no longer the gatekeeper, but what about an "outside" priest coming in? What are the rules on that, does the bishop have a say in that regard? The churches where I am going are diocesan but they do not have pastors. The local are (3 churches) are served by oblate missions. So could a priest fly in and do an EF Mass if the congregation wanted it?

First, don’t worry about the arrangement of the church.  The altar can be set up in a way that Mass can be said ad orientem or… it absolutely necessary, the old Mass can also be celebrated "versus populum".

 

Yes, a priest can come from outside to say the Mass, but he should have the permission of the pastor and should be be a priest in good standing in his diocese or religious institute.  You say there are no pastors where you are: he should have the permission of who ever is in charge.

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QUAERITUR: words for the Precious Blood twice, none for the Body

From a reader:

This Sunday, … at the time of the Consecration, the priest accidentally used the words of consecration for the Cup both when he was holding the Cup and when he was holding the Host. He never said "This is my Body" but said "This is my Blood" twice. Was the Consecration valid? Was the Mass? I received Communion anyway, but wasn’t sure whether or not I was receiving the Real Presence. I thought about trying to attend a later Mass to make sure that I had fulfilled my obligation, but as this was the last Mass at that parish and I was unfamiliar with other churches in the area and didn’t have internet access during my vacation, I didn’t know of any later options. If I ever encounter this in the future (I hope not), what’s the right thing to do? Should I try to attend Mass again if possible, or was this Mass valid?

 

Well…

The priest did not consecrate the Body of Christ.  For there to be a Mass, in the strict sense, there must be the two-fold consecration of the Body and of the Blood of Christ.  It is precisely in the two-fold consecration that the "separation" of Christ’s Body and Blood take place in a sacramental way so that Mass is a Sacrifice.

Also, you may have received Communion with a Host that was consecrated at another Mass.

That said, yes… you fulfilled your Sunday obligation.  Whatever happened there happened through no fault of your own doing or negligence. Don’t worry about that.  And don’t worry about receiving at Communion time, either.  You don’t have to confess this or try to find another Mass.

These things happen from time to time.  We are humans, after all, we make mistakes.  Don’t fret in any way.

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QUAERITUR: validity of SSPX marriage

From a priest reader:

Dear Father,

I have become acquainted with a family in my parish (Diocesan sponsored EF twice a week) and the parents were married in a SSPX chapel.  My question to you, after having posed this to three solid, traditionally minded priests, is this: What is the canonical status of that marriage?  Is the marriage considered valid but illict?  Is it similar to a protestant marriage that needs to be canonically regularized within Holy Mother Church? Or, is it considered invalid because those in SSPX are under different canonical standards than a non-Catholic?  Or, is it simply valid, end of story? 

Perhaps you have already addressed this issue and can direct me to a answer. Either way, your insight would be much appreciated. 

I have addressed this before, but repetita iuvant, as they say.

The marriage would be (most likely) invalid not because of a lack of form, but rather a defect of form.

Even though canonical form was followed, there was a defect affecting validity because the priest who officiated lacked delegation (c. 1111) from the parish priest or local ordinary.

Moreover, the priest (if he was a priest of the SSPX) is suspended a divinis.  He therefore cannot be delegated to officiate at a wedding (cc. 1109 and 1333).
 
Some argue that c. 144 (on common error and probable doubt) applies.  This argument is without merit, since it does not cover willful ignorance.
 
The couple in question should seek a sanatio in radice (retroactive convalidation). They can apply for this through the diocesan tribunal.

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Reminder: The future and our choices

The future and our choices

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Fr. Z asks a favor… for fun

Please do me a favor… just for kicks.

Mulier Fortis, a friend of mine in England and good blogger, is interested in what sort of stat spike we can create.

Go POUND her site to bits.  All it takes is a click.

Are you a blogger? Pick this up and drive traffic.

Just as a tease…. here is a sample of her style…

Chris plays the organ at the 9am Mass. He apparently asked, "Shall I play Colours of Day during Communion?" I’m pretty sure he was joking. "Yes," came the reply, "do that… and I’ll send the boys round to break both your legs, and you can follow on with I watch the sunrise (through my hospital window)."

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