ASK FATHER: Not AGAIN! “Does attending an SSPX Mass fulfill one’s Sunday obligation?”

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Does attending an SSPX Mass fulfill one’s Sunday obligation? I’m asking because I ran across the linked article below written by John Salza in November of this year arguing that attending an SSPX Mass does NOT fulfill the Sunday obligation to assist at Mass. The article threw me for a loop, as I’ve heard about the 9/27/2002 letter from Msgr. Perl, but not his 4/15/2002 letter; nor had I heard about the 2012 and 2015 letters from Ecclesia Dei, which seem to cast doubt on such attendance fulfilling the Sunday obligation.

This keeps coming up.  Some people who ought to know better simply want to rehash it and rehash it, and they get it wrong.

When I worked for the Holy See’s dicastery which had competence in the matter, the Pontifical Commission “Ecclesia Dei”, it was the position that, yes, you could fulfill your obligation on a day of precept at a Mass celebrated with the 1962 Missale Romanum by a priest of the SSPX.   By 2002 some new dynamics entered into question, creating some doubts and contradictions.  However, when there doubts about laws, in the absence of anything absolutely authoritative, the more benign way of interpreting law should prevail.  People’s freedoms are to be expanded and their obligations restricted.

Canon law was and is clear and it has not changed:

Canon 1248, §1 A person who assists at a Mass celebrated anywhere in a Catholic rite either on the feast day itself or in the evening of the preceding day satisfies the obligation of participating in the Mass.

There is no question that the Mass celebrated is in a Catholic Rite. The priests of the SSPX are Catholic priests and not some other kind of priests.  Regardless of their unique and somewhat thorny canonical status, they are priests of the Catholic Church and not some other Church.  They are even able to receive faculties from competent authority. They validly absolve sins even when there is no danger of death. They witness marriages and say the nuptial Masses.

The aforementioned Pontifical Commission on various occasions wrote that, yes, you can fulfill the obligation at an SSPX chapel. Not only that, you can, out of justice, give money in the collection for having received a service.

Those responses from the Commission concerned the SSPX, and not spin off groups from the SSPX.

If there are conflicting letters, it just goes to show that it is an evolving situation and one that people should get overly worked up about it.

Let’s just get over this and relax.

Look.  The anomalous and slowly evolving SSPX situation is complicated.  When things are really complicated in the Church, we are charity bound to cut people some slack and interpret restrictive laws as strictly as possible so as to give people maximum latitude.

I am convinced that the Enemy knows that he cannot win if we succeed in renewing the life of the Church through a recovery of our traditional liturgical rites.   Therefore, the Devil is going to fuel feuds, create strife and prompt the hardening of hearts.

Moreover, Old Scratch and demons are the ultimate lawyers.   If they can keep us quibbling and mired in the details, we are rendered ineffective.

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ASK FATHER: How does one get invited to the Synod (“walking together”) on Synodality

From a reader..

QUAERITUR:

I wanted to thank you for your original and powerful exhortation, via the death of a rabbit, to go to confession. As a consequence I did indeed go to confession and made a clean breast of some very awful sins going back a long way which had been imperfectly, if at all confessed. So the first part of my thank you is to let you know.  [Thanks for that… that post is HERE]

The second part is a suggestion. Can we start a long countermarch through the institutions? Would be possible to start with the Synod on Synodality? How does one get invited?

How does one get invited…. How does one get invited….

The powers that be, in control of the “synodal (‘walking together’) process” are absolutely closed to hearing, to seeing, to caring for people who desire traditional Catholic liturgical worship.    They will give all their attention and “accompaniment” to every possible aberrant group and dissidents, but not to traditional Catholics.

I suppose one approach might be to keep ‘pinging’ them with a note here, a note there.  I suggest that those notes be accompanied by Spiritual Bouquets.

That’s a key.   We have to pray for these people, as well.   They wish us ill.  Therefore, we have to pray for them.  They marginalize us.  We have to pray for them.  They try to strip things that are good and holy from the lives of many.  We have to pray for them.

Pray and try to forgive them.  Remember that Christ said that if we do not forgive, we will not be forgiven.

In the end all their games will fail.  Until them there is a lot of suffering to endure.  But we were chosen by God to live in this time, so the suffering has to be embraced as part of the plan.

Meanwhile, we should put aside small differences and unite our hearts and voices to strengthen precisely our hearts and our voices.

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Hey!  Typos happen.

This is rather amusing….

This is a screenshot from the Bolletino on 18 December 2021, which had the infamous Responses.

Let’s look at the last part more closely, with some emphasis.

As of the time of this writing, that’s still there.   It may be changed… who knows.

‘Til then.

Hey!  Typos happen.

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Today’s Fervorino… sort of.

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FATHERS! ACTION ITEM! Great idea from a priest about the Dubious Dubia and the Traditional Latin Mass for New Year’s Day

I received this great suggestion from a priest friend:

There is great deal of angst among TLMers after Saturday’s Responsa. Thank you for what you have written in the aftermath. In addition to encouraging prayer and Confession, perhaps we could take a lead in helping our people pray through a tumultuous time?

I suggest that priests offering the Extraordinary Form on New Year’s Day follow it with a Holy Hour for an outpouring of the Holy Spirit for the good of the Church.

There already is a plenary indulgence on January 1 for those who “devoutly assist at the recitation or solemn singing of Veni Creator to implore divine assistance for the course of the whole year” on New Year’s Day. [ Enchiridion Indulgentiarum (1999), no. 26 § 1, 1° ]

Let’s do it!

Get this into the hands of your priests who celebrate Mass with the Vetus Ordo.

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NEW VATICAN OFFICE! Congregation for the Bulletins of the World

Picking up from something someone said to me the other day, if we were able to combine Youtube, Twitter and Facebook, would it be YouTwitFace?

I found a new Twitter feed to follow. (Please follow mine! I lost some 10K in the last purge by the powers that be.)  HERE   And click below.

Finally, someone will be erected to ferret out ungood things in parish bulletins (like TLM Mass times, badthink, etc.).  It took Francis to do it, but it got done!

AND WAIT!

 

 

 

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Old Testament Prophets who are Saints in the Church’s calendar

Since the beginning of December, Holy Mother Church has been imitating the Lord on the Road to Emmaus.

She has been reminding us of all the prophecies about the coming of the Messiah who would also be incarnate God.

She has done this subtly, through feast days, but feasts that are not generally visible to most of us.  Holy Mother Church has used her “album of the saints”, the Roman Martyrology to teach about the Old Testament Prophets.

Sometimes you hear people – even priests, for shame – use the word “liturgy” when they mean “Mass”.  “In today’s ‘liturgy’…”, they say.

No.  The Mass is the greatest expression of the Church’s liturgy, but it is not all there is.  There are also the canonical hours of the divine Office.  The Office also makes use of the liturgical book called the Roman Martyrology.

Paging through the Martyrology, we find that many Old Testament figures are counted as saints.

If the general calendar of the Church permits, it would even be possible to celebrate them for Mass!

Today, for example, is the Winter Solstice AND the Feast of St. Micah.

About those Old Testament prophets…

Keep in mind that in earlier days, Advent was longer than it is now, from Martinmas.  Prophets start popping up in the calendar in the Martyrology.

19 Nov – Abdia or Obediah.
1 Dec – Nahum
2 Dec – Habakkuk
3 Dec – Sophonius or Zephaniah
16 Dec – Haggai and some sources David (others have David on 29 Dec)
18 Dec – Malachi
21 Dec – Micah
24 Dec – “Commemoratio omnium sanctorum avorum Iesu Christi, filii, David, filii Abraham, filii Adam…”

Just a little public service announcement.

FYI… other prophets

1 May – Jeremiah
9 May – Isaiah
15 June – Amos
20 July – Elijah
23 July – Ezekiel
21 Sept – Jonah
17 Oct – Hosea
19 Oct – Joel

 

 

 

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From Rome: “total war against the faith of our ancestors”

An old phrase, I believe attributed to Trotsky, says that you might not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.

This is proving to be true, as members of the hierarchy in Rome, close to and at the summits of power, wage war on Catholics who want to participate in the Vetus Ordo, the Roman Mass and celebration of rites.

At Crisis there is a very good piece about the situation facing traditionally minded Catholics.   War.

To cut to the chase, the writer ends with something that I suggested strongly today in my fervorino.  I suggested that, asking St. Thomas to guide us and asking our Guardian Angel to protect us from distractions of the Enemy, we might for a few minutes at least simply look at the wound in the side of Christ on a Crucifix.  Richard of St. Victor said that Thomas looked through the visible wound and saw the invisible wound of love.  That brought forth from him the cry, “Dominus meus et Deus meus!”

At Crisis, the writer suggests something along these lines.

At first he describes the status quaestionis… the situation as it is here and now: war.  You, we, and that includes faithful Catholics who do not usually attend the Vetus Ordo, are being warred upon.   Hence, we have to decide what we are going to do.

These days, it is tempting to turn to the more extreme blogs or videos and get ramped up.  I don’t think this blog is nearly qualified to be counted among the most extreme.   As a matter of fact, even as I called a spade and spade, I have recommended that our first response to the cruelty of our hierarchs should be to GO TO CONFESSION and then pray a Memorare everyday for the overturning of Traditionis custodes.  That way you can be a Custos traditionis.. a Guardian of Tradition, starting with confession and prayer.

The writer at Crisis writes about true Catholics having a Catholic sense.  This touches on something that needs greater explication.  This is the sensus fidelium…. the sensus fidei fidelium… the sense of the faith… the sense of the faith of the faithful.   What progressivists, libs, modernists, the papalatrous forget is that you have to have the Faith to have the sense of the Faith.

This is how that Crisis article concludes:

With total war against the faith of our ancestors on the table, there is no time for dissertations and dialogue—we will be on our heels before we have a chance to wait for the response of a Procurator Mandate from Rome.

We will have to decide what to do, sometimes despite what our normal channels of information and guidance will suggest.

Will we go Eastern Rite if possible? What about a private chapel? Are you brave enough to bear the brunt of bickering talking heads who decide how many percentage points of communion your priests enjoy? Whatever happens, it will not be easy, and no one can make the decision but you.

Before you decide—if the moment does in fact come—I recommend doing exactly what the heroic souls who followed Athanasius did as he bellowed, “They may have the churches, but we have the faith!”

It is not necessary to open any books, or blogs, or apps.

Emulate the unknown saints of the past. Kneeling in front of an Icon or lying prostrate in front of a Tabernacle will teach you more about what a Catholic ought to do in times like this than anything I or anyone else could ever write.

God gave us a Catholic sense for a reason—and exactly for times like these.

Having absorbed that, go to the article and read his reasons for saying that we are now at war.

He is right.

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Today’s Fervorino.

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Another Note on the Dubious Dubia™ concerning “Traditionis custodes”

The Bergoglians – papalatrous and fervid – are today doing exactly what their progressivist counterparts in the 1970’s did: they accuse “rigid” bishops of “not getting with the groovy program, man.”

Back then, the progressivist fear was that young people were rejecting and fleeing the Faith. Changes had to be made!   It was necessary to get rid of all sorts of things that no one wanted to get rid of, despite the fact that the Council Fathers commanded that they should be kept.

Now their Bergogliatic fear is that young people are rejecting the progressivists’ cult and are seeking the cult of their forebears.

The Bergoglians are so Pelagian, so self-absorbed in their personal agendas that they are blinded to the fact that the Faith really can’t (unlike certain other of their interests) be shoved down people’s throats!

Ironically, in the sunny Bergoglian fields of the Vatican II springtime that perennially-promised fruit of the Novus Ordo, attracting young people, is at long last ripening…

… wherever young people can find a Traditional Latin Mass.

Taurina cacata and the explanatory Roach Clips are surely going to accelerate unbridled gratitude for and enthusiasm about the Novus Ordo among young people… finally!

Can we doubt that a strict implementation of those loving pastoral provisions – which we are paternalistically reassured  were in no way intended to marginalize those who desire traditional worship, nossir! – is surely going to foster in young people, and their parents, warm affection for their local bishops?

And the seminarians!   They are going to be thrilled to be part a diocese that carries out pogroms against the Traditional Latin Mass!   They won’t give other groups – or the door – a second thought.

Ah… springtime.


Consider being a “Custos Traditionis” – HERE!

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