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- ASK FATHER: Is religious liberty in “Dignitatis humanae” the same as before the Vatican II? Of SSPX relevance. Wherein Fr. Z also makes an impassioned plea to Leo.
- ROME 26/4– Day 36: Seeing red
- ROME 26/4– Day 35: Theatre of the Absurd
- ROME 26/4– Day 34: A good example
- Your Sunday Sermon Notes – 3rd Sunday after Easter (N.O. 4th Sunday OF Easter)
- ASK FATHER: If the Canon is inaudible, would it be invalid?
- ROME 26/4– Day 33: Here’s a little Latin for you
- ROME 26/4– Day 32: What a day
- ROME 26/4– Day 31: tired
- ROME 26/4– Days 30: R.I.P.
- “Masses scheduled at impossible times”… Where have I heard that before?
- ROME 26/4– Days 29: Happy Birthday Rome!
- Of Tolkien and a very young Fr. Z
- ROME 26/4– Days 27 & 28: Pope SAINT Leo IX lead an army
- Feast of St. Expeditus… belated
- ASK FATHER: Was the feeding of the 5000 just a moment of “sharing” or was it a true miracle?
- Your Sunday Sermon Notes – 2nd Sunday after Easter (N.O. 3rd Sunday OF Easter)
- ROME 26/4– Day 26:
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Grant unto thy Church, we beseech Thee, O merciful God, that She, being gathered together by the Holy Ghost, may be in no wise troubled by attack from her foes. O God, who by sin art offended and by penance pacified, mercifully regard the prayers of Thy people making supplication unto Thee,and turn away the scourges of Thine anger which we deserve for our sins. Almighty and Everlasting God, in whose Hand are the power and the government of every realm: look down upon and help the Christian people that the heathen nations who trust in the fierceness of their own might may be crushed by the power of thine Arm. Through our Lord Jesus Christ, Thy Son, who liveth and reigneth with Thee in the unity of the Holy Ghost, God, world without end. R. Amen.
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Six consecutive sixes in one over
It may be a synchronicity, but lately several people have written or spoken to me about Cricket.
The game, not the singing insect.
While we know that Baseball is the sport God loves the most, I figure He must also love Cricket, because in some respects it resembles eternity.
That said, I had an email this morning from a reader. He also, kindly, provides some context so that we who are on this side of the Pond can understand what occurred:
Sir Garfield Sobers hit six consecutive sixes in one over. The first batsman ever to do it in a first class game of cricket (has to be a county game at least to be classed as first class, so good players is what’s said).
The liturgical equivalent would be Pope Francis offering six Papal High Mases at St Peter’s in the UA form, in a novena to make St JPII a doctor of the Church, and proclaim the next synod on the family null and void…..
Yes, I will stipulate that that would be a rare, almost unimaginable, event.
I have an invitation to view…? see…? watch…? go to…? a match at Lord’s.
Perhaps it’s worth while to put the little wavy flag out and see if enough donations come to make it happen before the season is over.
Facebook locks out Catholic priest Msgr. Charles Pope, for being a “Monsignor”
I think I may have mentioned my plan to change legally my first name to “Monsignor”, ’cause that’s about the only way I’ll ever get the title.
Irony abounds around my friend Msgr. Charles Pope, in Washington DC, a fine pastor and blogger. He has been give the bounce by the execrable Facebook – not for having only one gender – but for having the actual real title “Monsignor”.
He wrote me the other day – and I apologize to him for not getting to this sooner – with my emphases:
Just a brief note to inform you that I have been blocked from Facebook. They claim that Msgr. Charles Pope is not my real name and are requiring me to submit government ID proving that Msgr. Charles Pope is my true identity. As of now, I have no intention of doing this since I consider it an unreasonable demand by them. They further indicate that even if I supply the IDs from at least two sources, that they reserve the right not to reactivate my account if the name I have used does not meet their preferences. [EXPLETIVE – mine -DELETED!]
They explain the reason for their action as:
We ask everyone on Facebook to use the name they go by in everyday life so friends know who they’re connecting with [jerks]
But of course this IS the name that I go by “in everyday life.” Further, I have had a Facebook account under the name of “Msgr. Charles Pope” for over 6 years now. This is my name, this is who I am. I have 5,000 friends on Facebook who know me by this.
Facebook of course is a private company and they can do whatever they want and treat their clients and users in whatever foul ways they wish. But my current stance on this matter is to resist their demand and seek to share my dissatisfaction.
Facebook was once an open forum to discuss and share. It has become increasingly autocratic and ideological. It may be time for many of us to encourage them to reform or to simply leave Facebook. [Do you use Facebook for your usual online contacts? Reconsider.]
I respect that some of you may differ with my assessment of things, but I did want to explain my sudden absence from Facebook and I request your help in spread this information with others you think might wonder as to my disappearance from that forum.
My Twitter Feed is @MsgrPope
Rev. Msgr Charles Pope
Holy Comforter – St Cyprian Parish
First, knowing that I’ll probably draw their fire now – ask St. Gabriel the Archangel to afflict Facebook. Ask St. Isidore of Seville, or other saints to whom you regularly raise requests for intecession, to bring about a conversion to common sense of those who run Facebook.
Secondly, follow @MsgrPope on Twitter! Follow me, too! @FatherZ
Thirdly, consider another networking option for the Day When They Start Arresting Us: Ham Radio
And here is a video from Fox News which picked up the story about Msgr. Pope.
I also joined AWESTRUCK – a Catholic alternative to Facebook. HERE
http://awestruck.tv/members/fatherz/
UPDATE 22 August:
From a reader…
I saw Msgr. Pope at an anti-Planned Parenthood protest this morning. He says he is reinstated on Facebook but he did have to drop “Msgr.” from his name. He put it in the banner.
ASK FATHER: How to explain the Eucharist to a 3 year old?
Father, My son is three years old. I’m looking for a very simple way to explain the Eucharist to him. I have been pointing out the host to him and saying, “See that’s Jesus that Father is holding.”, but this doesn’t seem to be making much of an impression. Would it be correct to say that Jesus is hiding in the host? I think this would make sense to him but I want to make sure whatever I tell him, even if simple, is true.
To explain the deep mystery of the Eucharist to anyone, regardless of age, is difficult. This mystery requires a lifetime of grappling with even to come to some minimal understanding of its profundity. One runs the risk of lapsing into heresy.
Perhaps the best way to expose children to the mystery of the Eucharist has a twofold approach.
Firstly, allow them to observe the reverence and awe that we adults show to the Blessed Sacrament. Let them see our deep and genuine genuflections toward the tabernacle, our silence in church, our heads bowed in prayer, our regular reception of the Sacrament of Penance, our reverent reception of Holy Communion (not, by the way, in the hand).
Secondly, state matters as directly as possible. “Yes, dear Athanasius, that is Jesus whom mommy and daddy receive in Holy Communion. … Yes, little Etheldreda, we genuflect because Jesus is in the tabernacle. … No, Philomena, Jesus isn’t hurt when we consume the Host.”
A correct answer to some of their questions might be a simple, “It’s a mystery, which is why mommy and daddy spend as much time as we do praying at church, meditating on it, asking God to deepen our understanding of it.”
Many efforts to explain deep theological mysteries in terms that children understand fall into a sort of simplification that can, in fact, be heresy. It’s okay that little Paphnutius doesn’t understand the Eucharist in all of its profundity. Who does?
One of the beauties of mysteries are that they allow a growth in understanding over time. As we grow and mature in faith and in grace, our understanding can grow proportionally. Consider the wisdom of the Church’s sacred liturgical year. Each year, year in and year out, we are presented with the mysteries of the life of Christ and of the whole history of salvation from Creation to the End. Each year we are a little different. We, who receive the presentation of these mysteries, each year can glean from them something new for our identity and love of God, helpful for our salvation, helpful for our zeal to help others to salvation.
Of course much of your task and process of helping young children to grow in the Faith will be influenced – and heavily so – by the sacred liturgical worship at your church, on Sundays and other moments. Is this worship mainly man-centered, and horizontal? Raucous and constantly noisy? Is this worship mainly God-oriented, and vertical? Including silence?
Is it beautiful?
Children get these things pretty quickly, I’ll wager, and I bet parents will back me up. If adults and older children around them behave a certain way towards … anything… they’ll pick that up.
I am sure that parents and grandparents out there have some practical wisdom to share in this regard.
UPDATE:
Amy Welborn dropped me a note (give her page a visit!):
This is pitched at First Communion age, but Pope Benedict is *so* clear about things that it might even help a 3-year old!
God bless, and thanks for all you do in these..interesting times.
Friendship with Jesus: Pope Benedict XVI Talks to Children on Their First Holy Communion UK link HERE
ASK FATHER: Can we pray to the deceased who are not saints?
I know that the Church encourages the faithful to pray for the intercession of Saints and those who are on the path to being canonized. However, what does the Church teach in regards to praying to the deceased who are not known to be in heaven? For example, I’ve had friends and relatives who have prayed to dead relatives or priests whom they have personally known and believed to have lived holy lives.
From the earliest times, Christians have sought the intercession of their beloved deceased. It was apparent to our ancestors that, because of Christ, death did not sever the relationship we have with our Christian brothers and sisters.
Over the centuries, the process of canonization developed to draw attention to particularly holy persons who were both powerful intercessors and also solid role models for Christian life and death.
The Church allows in her public official liturgies only the invocation of those who have been officially canonized or, limited to specific areas or religious orders, those who have been beatified.
That doesn’t prevent us from seeking the intercession of family members and friends known to us who lived holy lives and are, presumably, in purgatory or heaven.
If they are in purgatory, there remains some doubt as to whether they can intercede on our behalf.
St. Thomas Aquinas says that they cannot (Summa Theologiae II-II. 83.11). St. Robert Bellarmine disagrees (De Purgatorio, lib. II, xv) saying that the souls of the departed can pray for us in purgatory just as much as we can pray for each other on earth. St. Alphonsus Ligouri, St. Catherine of Bologna, and St. Teresa of Avila also say souls in purgatory can pray for us.
All the saints and orthodox theologians, most certainly, endorse the notion that we should pray for our beloved dead. In purgatory, they cannot earn any more indulgences on their own effort, and so rely on us to quicken their release and entrance into paradise.
Of course, souls that are damned to hell cannot pray for us.
If we ask the intercession of someone we THOUGHT was holy but who, instead, is now in hell, then I’m sure that God in His Mercy, will assign our request to another intercessor.
Does Pope Francis strike you as being easily scared?
I saw this at The Telegraph:
Donald Trump to the Pope: ‘Isil wants to get you’
Donald Trump says he would not allow the Pope to criticise capitalism if they were to meet face to face, and would scare him into silence by reminding him that violent jihadis of the Islamic State want to invade the Vatican.
[…]
In an interview with CNN on Wednesday night, he was asked about the forthcoming US visit of Pope Francis, who has repeatedly said that capitalism was responsible for many of the world’s problems.
Mr Trump, who described himself as a Protestant, said he would like to meet the Pope but he would not stand for any comments that capitalism was toxic or evil.
“I’d say, ‘Isil wants to get you,'” he said “You know that Isis wants to go in and take over the Vatican….
“I’m gonna have to scare the Pope because it’s the only thing.
“The Pope, I hope, can only be scared by God. But the truth is – you know, if you look at what’s going on – they better hope that capitalism works, because it’s the only thing we have right now.
“And it’s a great thing when it works properly.”[…]
I imagine that there would be a backlash were the Pope to be killed by Islamic extremists. But how extensive, how strong, would it be… I wonder.
BTW… Trump is certainly right. ISIL surely would do as much damage as possible to Rome and Vatican City, if given a fraction of a chance. It doesn’t take a lot of analysis to see that.
Does Pope Francis strike you as someone who would be easily scared by the idea of being killed by Islamic extremists? It’s not as it hasn’t occurred to him already.
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UPDATE: English translation of Memoirs of Louis Bouyer
The English translation of The Memoirs of Louis Bouyer: From Youth and Conversion to Vatican II, the Liturgical Reform, and After has finally been produced. UK click HERE
Soon after it was put on sale, it because unavailable. Apparently the supply chain was goofed up. Happily it is now available again.
If you tried to order it, and were unsuccessful, try again!
This is an important first hand account of what happened in the liturgical “reform” sparked by Vatican II.
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You are the periphery which can revitalize the Church!
Some time ago, I wrote HERE:
If there is a malaise in the Church today, if there is an interior decay (and there is), then [as Pope Francis says] we should look to peripheries for that which can help to revitalize our identity, get us strong and healthy again. We need what the periphery has to offer.
Traditional Catholics whose “legitimate aspirations” have been drawn to the traditional forms of our sacred liturgical worship, and who stick closely to traditional expressions of doctrine, are a periphery. They have even been made into a periphery by the Church’s own appointed pastors.
It’s time to start listening to this periphery.
I drive at this point in some other posts as well.
I read at One Peter Five an interview of Bp. Athanasius Schneider with the Spanish-Language website, Adelante La Fe (Advance the Faith). In the interview we find this:
Adelante la Fe: Can Your Excellence give some words of encouragement to those priests who, for being faithful to Church Tradition, are isolated and pushed into the background in their dioceses and not given temples where they can officiate Holy Mass in the Extraordinary Form, as well as to those faithful who are deprived of Traditional Holy Mass?
Mons. Schneider: I would like to say to these priests, seminarians, young people and families: “It is an honor and a privilege to be faithful to the Divine truth and to the spiritual and liturgical traditions of our forefathers and of the saints and being therefore marginalized by those who currently occupy administrative power in the Church. This your fidelity and courage constitute the real power in the Church. You are the real ecclesiastical periphery, which with God’s power renews the Church. Living the true tradition of dogma, liturgy and holiness is a manifestation of the democracy of the Saints, because tradition is the democracy of the Saints. With Saint Athanasius I would like to tell you these words: Those in the Church who oppose, humiliate and marginalize you, have occupied the churches, while during this time you are outside; it is a fact that they have the premises – but you have the Apostolic Faith. They claim that they represent the Church, but in reality, they are the ones who are expelling themselves from it and going astray (cf. Letter to his flock)”.
Beautifully expressed.
He is right.
Be the Maquis!
ASK FATHER: “I went to confession at a SSPX parish for several years.”
QUAERITUR:
After I became Catholic, some friends introduced me to tradition and I began to attend a SSPX parish with them. I went to confession at this SSPX parish for several years. I have heard that the validity of SSPX confessions is dubious at best. Do I need to go and reconfess those sins?
First, the SSPX might have a chapel, but they don’t have a parish. Parishes are officially established by proper authority. The SSPX doesn’t have authority to establish parishes.
Next, the 1983 Code of Canon Law says that:
Can. 966 §1 For the valid absolution of sins, it is required that, in addition to the power of order, the minister has the faculty to exercise that power in respect of the faithful to whom he gives absolution.
§2 A priest can be given this faculty either by the law itself, or by a concession issued by the competent authority in accordance with can. 969.
From this we see that priests must have permission of the Church to absolve sins. The Church, by the way, gets to determine how the sacraments are administered.
The business about “the law itself” giving the faculty to absolve validly pertains, for example, to situations of danger of death. Consider the situation of a priest who is (for any reason at all) no longer in active ministry and, therefore, no longer has any faculties to function as a priest. If a person is in danger of dying, that ex-priest would in that circumstance automatically have the faculty to absolve validly, even if there were another, active priest in good standing there present also.
Under normal circumstances, however, if a priest does not have the faculty to receive sacramental confessions, for whatever reason, the absolution is invalid.
So, say you are a penitent who has been going to a priest who does not have faculties (such as all priests of the SSPX).
If you later realize that the priest who heard your confession and gave you absolution did not have the faculty to absolve from sin, yes, I think that – for the sake of ease of mind if nothing else – you should reconfess those sins. If it has been a long time and you don’t have a clear memory of those confessions, explain the situation to the priest confessor and confess those sins in general terms.
You did this in good faith, and in clear ignorance of the fact that the SSPX priest to whom you confessed did not have the authority to absolve. Doing something out of ignorance is not subjectively sinful.
Priests who know they do not have faculty to hear confessions, and yet continue to illicitly and invalidly absolve… that’s a different, serious matter.
Frankly, I long for reconciliation of these good men. I think they will be good confessors.
By the way… a “confessor” is a priest who has faculties to receive sacramental confessions. It may be that, for some reason, a priest might be given faculties to say Mass but not to preach or hear confessions. Rare… but… it can be done.
What about the “common error” angle? That is, because of error on the part of the penitent about the priest’s situation, his lack of faculties, then the absolution was valid.
No.
I think that the individual’s sins are probably forgiven, not because of common error or some mysterious faculty that results from the ignorance of the penitent, but rather because of the intent of the penitent. The penitent, hopefully, makes the equivalent of a perfect act of contrition (sorrow for sins because of the love of God), and so his sins are hopefully forgiven.
Lest SSPX apologists say “See! See! Even Fr. Z agrees that a confession to an SSPX priest results in the forgiveness of sins, so therefore it’s alright to go to them!”
Ummm… no. It is not alright. You don’t know what happens or happened, common error or not.
Your soul is too precious to risk.
One of the reasons why Christ and Holy Church have worked things out the way they are is so that penitents don’t have to doubt that their sins are forgiven.
Let’s treat the Sacrament with reverence.
Anyway, for that reason, namely, the intention of the confessee, I don’t think it’s absolutely necessary for him to re-confess the sins specifically, but prudence requires mentioning the matter to a real confessor.
So… GO TO CONFESSION!
Go to true confessors – priests with faculties.
UPDATE 21 August.
Here is an example of the sort of feedback I get in my email on this topic.
I would like to point out the INCORRECT statement regarding Confessions by SSPX priests. These confessions ARE valid as these priests ARE also validly ordained and ARE given the faculty to forgive sins. I certainly would NOT go to a vatican 2 priest because I believe they have NOT got the proper faculty to forgive sins.
I respond, …
For I say unto thee, thou are Seonag, and on this Seonag I will build my Church, and whatsoever beliefs thou hast, evenso they go against objective reality, I shalt confirm and whomsoever thou shalt dislike for whatever reason, from him I shall withhold faculties, for in fain, I came to announce: I am the way, the subjective feeling, and the light.
We have a real challenge, friends, and so do the priests of the SSPX!
Let’s all work together to get at the truth. I long for the reconciliation of the SSPX. Only drilling for and embracing the truth will help us on that path.
ASK FATHER: “Glass goblet” for the Precious Blood
From a reader…
On vacation I attended a mass where the precious blood was offered in a glass goblet, a man in a suit and tie (deacon?) gave the homily and the congregation stood after receiving (that bit shocked me). I’m a just nobody. Should I write to someone anyway? Do you have advice so that if I write it’ll be more likely to be read? BTW I think highly of the Bishop of this diocese.
Clearly there is some liturgical abuse going on here.
Even if the man who preached was a deacon, he should have been appropriately attired (alb, stole, and dalmatic if he was the deacon of the Mass; alb and stole or cassock, surplice, and stole if he was merely the preacher).
In addition, the Precious Blood deserves precious vessels, not glass goblets.
The question is a good one: “As a visitor, what are my responsibilities?”
One indeed has the right to object to serious liturgical abuse, but how to avoid having one’s legitimate complaints merely go into some circular file to be destroyed at some later date without having any effect?
Tough question.
Sometimes complaints against a priest have long-lasting effect. Other times complaints disappear. The cynical among us will probably point out that complaints, however frivolous, against a priest of patently orthodox repute tend to have longer life than complaints against their more heterodox confreres… right?… and attribute this disparity to the tenor of, if not the bishop himself, at least the staff with which he surrounds himself. The cynical are, in many cases, spot on correct.
Yet, this inquirer thinks highly of the bishop of this diocese. Perhaps he will listen. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
In a politely worded letter, simply point out the liturgical abuse as well as the great respect for His Excellency. It might get a fair read.
Remember what Holy Church tells in Redemptionis Sacramentum
6. Complaints Regarding Abuses in Liturgical Matters
[183.] In an altogether particular manner, let everyone do all that is in their power to ensure that the Most Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist will be protected from any and every irreverence or distortion and that all abuses be thoroughly corrected. This is a most serious duty incumbent upon each and every one, and all are bound to carry it out without any favouritism.
[184.] Any Catholic, whether Priest or Deacon or lay member of Christ’s faithful, has the right to lodge a complaint regarding a liturgical abuse to the diocesan Bishop or the competent Ordinary equivalent to him in law, or to the Apostolic See on account of the primacy of the Roman Pontiff. It is fitting, however, insofar as possible, that the report or complaint be submitted first to the diocesan Bishop. This is naturally to be done in truth and charity.




























