ASK FATHER: Could it be a sin to attend a Novus Ordo Mass if you think the TLM is superior?

Alexandre_Bida_Pharisee_publicanFrom a reader…

QUAERITUR:

If a lay person is presented with the option to attend either a Novus Ordo Mass or a Traditional Latin Mass, and, in turn,

(a) believes that the TLM is more substantively and consistently reverent to God, and

(b) faces no restraints to attend either (e.g. is not burdened with long driving distances to attend one or the other, is not burdened with family politics), does said person have a moral obligation to attend the TLM?

Or, stated negatively, is it a sin in this situation for said person to attend the Novus Ordo Mass?

Stated more abstractly, if a person is faced with two possible means of worshiping God – one great at expressing reverence and the other poor [poor?  not “less ‘great'”?] – is it sinful to choose the lesser option if the person knows which one is greater and is not restrained to perform the greater option?

(Note: I fully recognize and affirm that the Novus Ordo Mass is licit and valid).

Let’s also say that both the Masses are also at one’s territorial parish church and the schedule is convenient for either Mass.  Thus, one is also attending one’s proper parish.

All things being equal (distance, schedule, etc.) is it a sin to attend the Novus Ordo if you are utterly convinced that the older, traditional form is superior?

There are so many factors to weigh in these scenarios.  There cannot be a one size fits all answer to this theoretical scenario.

However, all things truly being equal (leaving aside the people whom you would meet, etc.), it seems to me that a person would be want to attend that which he thought was the superior opportunity for spiritual benefit.  He would want to worship God in sacred liturgy in the best available manner.

If he truly believes that he derives greater spiritual benefit from one form, he, out of desire for that greater benefit, should not be satisfied with what he thinks is merely “okay”.

It seems to me that when it comes to the worship of Almighty God and our benefit in that worship, we should desire the greater rather than the lesser.

Could, then, one sin in choosing the just “okay” when it would be just as easy to choose the “better”?

Yes, I suppose it is possible that one could sin in that choice.

But so much depends on that individual’s state in life and spiritual advancement and all the attendant circumstances that go with daily life that I sense that it is unlikely that one would sin gravely in such a choice. As a matter of fact, I suspect that one might not sin venially in that choice, either.

“Bless me Father, I have sinned.  It has been a week since my last confession.  These are my sins…  I went to the Novus Ordo intentionally, specifically because it is an inferior way to worship God liturgically and because I did not want to derive from the experience all that I might have at the TLM.”

As a confessor, I would have to ask a few questions about that unlikely confession.

“Bless me Father, I have sinned.  It has been a week since my last confession.  These are my sins…  I went to the Novus Ordo, which I think is inferior, but my practice is simply to flip a coin…”

As a confessor, I would suggest that that is a rather cavalier approach to something so important… flippant even.

I know that there are people out there who are trying sincerely to make a determination about which form to attend.

As you consider all the factors, do your best not to pit the forms against each other.  Keep your head clear.  Also, do not fall into the trap of pitting the people whom you find at one form against the others, or the priests.   That road leads to the trap our Lord describes in the parable of the Pharisee and the Pharisee and the Publican in Luke 18.

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My View For Awhile: Post Syzygy

MCI is a madhouse.  Many people have some sort of eclipse commemorating shirt.


I was supposed to do a radio slot with Drew Mariani but in the chaos it didn’t work.

We had some clouds but mangaged to see some of the totality.

Beforehand, however, i picked up some crescents through the leaves.

They are announcing to the LGA folks that they are stuck here for several more hours while they get a new plane for them.  And they even said the only reason they are bringing another plane is because there are no hotels for 100 miles due to the eclipse.

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Boarded.  

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We made it to DTW with just enough time for me to grab a kind of sandwich.  I didn’t check a bag so I have no concerns in that department.  Will I do the same the day after tomorrow?


My next gate.  Will there be an upgrade?  The mysteries of Delta continue.

Meanwhile the pilots are here.

UPDATE

I got the upgrade.

In the cockpit they are working on something.  Voice messages are cycling: TERRAIN … TERRAIN… PULL UP… PULL UP… OBSTACLE… PULL UP…. 

The techy said “Okay it’s started to work now.  Let’s leave it alone.  We’re outa here.”

And so they closed the doors and I turned my phone to Airplane Mode.

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That’s no moon!

Biretta tip to Ben Shapiro!

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The revitalization of a parish in ultra-lib land

Do you remember when Fr. Illo at a parish in San Francisco decided to stop the service at the altar by females (YAY!) and the world came down on his head.

In the Catholic Herald, the UK’s best Catholic weekly, there is a story on what’s going on at Star of the Sea parish.  Shall we look with my patented treatment of emphases and comments?

Countercultural San Francisco parish attracts growing congregation

On the solemnity of the Annunciation this past spring, San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone dedicated the Star of the Sea Church’s renovated St Joseph Adoration Chapel, calling it “a pivotal moment in the history of the parish.”

We want to base the renewal of our parish around the Holy Eucharist,” said Fr Joseph Illo. “Our mission statement is to evangelize God’s people beginning with the gift of the Holy Eucharist. That means putting a lot of energy into our music, our preaching, our Sunday Mass.” [As I have said a zillion times, no initiative we undertake in the Church will bear fruit unless it is rooted in sacred liturgical worship, the summit of which is celebration of the Eucharist and the Eucharist Itself.]

Three years after Fr Illo was appointed parish administrator in August 2014, bringing his powerful commitment to traditional Catholic practices to the famously progressive city, Mass attendance and the number of parishioners registered have increased about 10 percent each year. [Are you surprised?  I’m not.]

“For the first time in my life, I feel I belong to a parish, I mean really belong,” said Eva Muntean, Walk for Life West Coast co-chair, who organizes street evangelization twice a month at a farmers’ market not far from the church.

One of Fr Illo’s first actions was to open the Romanesque-style church from 6:30 am to 5:30 pm daily, improve the lighting and turn on the heat. “Now people can stop in, light a candle,” Father Illo told Catholic San Francisco, the archdiocese’s newspaper.  [Whaddya know.  Open the church and people come!]

When he arrived, the parish founded in 1887 in the city’s Richmond District was struggling. Despite its location facing a busy boulevard, its doors were closed most of the day except for Mass times.

The parish has been one of the first to meet its Archdiocesan Annual Appeal goal each year, and the offertory has more than doubled. There is a new Knights of Columbus chapter, revitalized homeless outreach, Gabriel Project for pregnant women in need, a young adults group, and a speaker and a film series as well as Filipino and Chinese parish groups. Masses in English and Latin feature Gregorian chant and polyphony. [LATIN!]

The backbone of the parish remains “good, faithful, longtime parishioners,” Fr Illo said.

“We have served under seven pastors, all very different. And we’ve seen the parish go through many transitions of growth and decline and rebirth again,” said Lorna Feria, an accountant who is also parish director of faith formation. She and her husband, Bud, who have five children, joined the parish 26 years ago. “It’s a rebirth again.”

Confessions are available before every Mass. “That’s brought a lot of people in,” Fr Illo said. There are coffee and doughnuts, Mexican, Chinese or Filipino treats after most Sunday Masses.  [CONFESSIONS!]

“We are offering a style of worship that is more traditional and more classical, but it is also revivifying the neighbourhood,” said Fr Illo, who was appointed to start an Oratory of St Philip Neri, a project later put on hold. “We put money into professional musicians” and are building up the volunteer choir, Fr Illo said.  [Yes, this is an important investment.  We often see that when music improves in choice and quality of execution, congregations grow.  That means that collections grow.  That means that even more musicians can be brought in, etc.  I know a parish in NYC which did this and it worked.  I hear the newish pastor has cut back on the music and the congregations are shrinking.]

The priests at Star of the Sea distribute Communion at the Communion rail. In Lent, Fr Illo began an experimental period of celebrating Mass “ad orientem,” meaning the priest faces the high altar and crucifix during the parts of the Mass where the priest and people address God. While extraordinary form Latin Mass was instituted earlier, there are now two Masses on Sunday and one daily celebrated using the 1962 Roman Missal, known commonly as the Tridentine rite, in addition to English Masses.

Shortly after his appointment, Fr Illo ignited controversy when he decided to train only boys and men for altar service going forward, coming at the time Archbishop Cordileone was receiving negative publicity associated with Catholic high school teachers’ contract talks.

Serving as an altar server is a feeder for the male-only priesthood, and helpful in forming boys in leadership, much as girls-only programmes at many of our schools,” Fr Illo said in an interview. Today the negative publicity has abated, and he said as many as 10 altar servers serve at extraordinary form Latin Masses.  [Which will produce vocations.  They should also implement the famous Vocation Prayer I’ve posted about.]

Three men from Star of the Sea have applied to the archdiocesan seminary program and another entered the Dominican novitiate on August 15. One young man who had been serving Mass from the parish had just enrolled at St. Patrick’s Seminary & University the August that Fr Illo arrived.  [As I said before.]

 

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Read the conclusion there.

Great stuff!

Fr. Z kudos to Fr. Illo and Archbp. Cordileone!

 

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A prayer to prepare for #SolarEclipse2017

It occurred to me that we might ask God for specialized help today.

Almighty eternal God, who by Thy Word created the cosmos and set in motion all that has being, should it be pleasing to Thee, for the sake of our awe at Thy ineffable goodness revealed in the beauty of creation and for the increase of your praise and glory, send forth Thy holy angels both to clear the skies of clouds from the path of the shadow of the Moon as it sweeps across the nation, and also to prompt those who strive to view this wonder of our celestial clock to guard by prudent decisions their own eyes and to protect the vision of those under their care.  We ask this through Christ our Lord, who liveth and reigneth with Thee, in the unity of the Holy Ghost, ever one God, world without end. Amen.

When I rose this morning, I engaged my Starlight app and snapped the configuration of your planet’s star and largest satellite.  The syzygy is on!

 

Here is the page from the calendar used in the Roman Curia.

You can see that it shows that there is a New Moon (which is the only way there could be total solar eclipse), and the Ave Maria is quite late.

UPDATE:

very cool post about eclipses with images from medieval manuscripts.   As I said… very cool. HERE  For example:

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SpaceWeather has an amusing bit about viewing the eclipse indirectly by means of a pinhole projection… using a water cracker or biscuit, which has little holes.

Thus proving that you can have your eclipse and eat it too.

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My host has decreed that the Sun is turning into Pac-Man.  It’s hard to dispute.  Then again, it has been awhile since I’ve seen Pac-Man.

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How I miss these guys!

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And now it’s time for CAPTAIN CORONA!

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Well… just as totality came, so did the clouds.  Rats.  However, they were thin enough that we could see the total phase and the corona for a little bit.  Then a thicker cloud came and that was that until the “diamond ring”.

I hope that where you are you will have a great view!

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A different “Game Of Thrones” opener

On another note, this is amusing.   The Roman version of the opening sequence of Game of Thrones (which I think pretty much everyone on the planet watches).

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The Atlantic: the Eclipse is racist

16_08_21_2017_eclipse_pathThe Atlantic is pretty much a joke.  However, they take themselves seriously.   This story seems… seems… not to be an intentional joke.

Read and be amazed.  It exemplifies the Left.   You can’t make this up.

From Daily Caller:

The Eclipse Is Racist Because It Fails To Affect Enough Black People, The Atlantic Suggests

The Atlantic, a once-great magazine, has determined that the total eclipse of the sun due to occur on Monday will fail to affect enough black people.

The Atlantic’s very lengthy essay on the failure of the eclipse to occur where a sufficient number of black people reside is entitled “American Blackout.” It clocks in at a remarkable 4,544 words and does not appear to be satire.

Concerning “the Great American Eclipse,” Brooklyn Law School professor Alice Ristroph writes in the rapidly deteriorating magazine, “there live almost no black people” “along most of its path.”

The Atlantic’s longwinded law professor assures readers that “implicit bias of the solar system” is “presumably” not the cause of eclipse’s failure to affect enough black people.

[…]

After an extensive discourse criticizing the U.S. Census, The Atlantic tells readers that the eclipse will travel through Nebraska, Kansas, Iowa and Missouri. In this section of its essay, The Atlantic manages to drop the names of Bruce Springsteen, Jesse James, Eminem, Chelsea Manning, Michael Brown and Howard Zinn (a shallow socialist writer panned even by most serious socialists).

“There are too many damn facts,” The Atlantic also complains.

[…]

In its final paragraph, The Atlantic concludes that the United States is “still segregated” and has “debts that no honest man can pay.” Cryptically, the magazine suggests, “the strange path of the eclipse suggests a need for reorganization” of the entire American political system.

The Atlantic classifies its article about the path of the eclipse in the category of “science” even though nothing remotely approaching science appears in any of the 4,544 words.

All this and the eclipse too.

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Getting up to date in Kansas City

This morning I had Holy Mass at St. Philippine Duschesne which is run by the FSSP. I thought it was to be a Sung Mass, but it turned out to be Solemn, which was a treat. Here are a few snaps from someone.

The church is lovely.  They obvious have put their hearts into building a beautiful church and doing good things there.  And it was really full for Mass.

What people didn’t know is that a friend of mine brought some special gear for the Mass.  On the altar we had great relics.  There was a large piece of bone of St. Bernard, a 1st class of St. John Vianney, an arrangement of great Jesuit… yes, Jesuit saints, and – special – some hair of St Maximilian Kolbe.

Some images…

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Some of them.  Great names…
Ignatius Loyola
Francis Xavier
Aloysius Gonzaga
Francis Borgia
Paul Miki
Peter Claver
John Berchmans
Peter Canisius
Stanislas Kostka
Alphonus Rodriguez

Lst but not least, at about 11 o’clock… AND BOB!

A few of them I couldn’t immediately discern.  I do like going around clockwise to find AND BOB!

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Also, for the Mass itself, I wore an amice of St. John Vianney and used one of his ciboria to distirubute Holy Communion.

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On a more mundane level, we went to Independence to see a priest friend who is redoing his church and who has a new community of women religious whom he’s helping.  Then we visited the Pres. Harry S. Truman Library.

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This is also Mormon Ground Zero.  They – in they’re various splinter groups, think that this is where (their) Jesus is to return… Independence, MO, folks.  Here’s what they built in the place where they believe it’ll happen.

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Weird.

Meanwhile, in KC, there are protests because of Civil War monuments.  This one was boxed up and prepared for removal even before the protest against it.   Today there are marches downtown.

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Last night we opened up a bottle of 1991 Brunello.  I had saved a bottle from the year of my ordination to enjoy for my 25th anniversary.  When I left the Sabine Farm for Madison, I entrusted a few bottles of wine to my friend here in KC.  This is my 26th year, but… hey!

Tonight, my last ’82 Bordeaux.  It has been open for hours.  It should be great.

Tomorrow… eclipse.

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Waiting for tomorrow 

Pretty soon!

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Peters on Nichols

The distinguished theologian Fr. Aidan Nichols, OP, recently gave a talk to a group of Anglican and Orthodox (both of whom are not yet in union with the Pope of Rome) about what might be done in view of the crisis aroused in the Church because of the objectively ambiguous elements of Pope Francis’ Amoris laetitia.  I posted about the talk with comments HERE.

Nichols’ talk was important.  He has opened up, respectfully, another “path” as it were in the matter of the Five Dubia of the Four Cardinals.

Inter alia, Nichols suggests that the Church’s law might be changed to allow for a procedure to correct a Pope who might stray towards teaching something sub-optimal.

Here is distinguished canonist Ed Peters observations on Nichols’ proposal for canon law.  Let’s have a look.   Be sure to visit, often, Peters’ wonderful site, In The Light Of The Law.

On Fr. Nichols’ recent remarks

Dominican theologian Fr. Aidan Nichols needs no introduction to readers of this blog and it suffices to say that, when a priest of Nichols’ credentials urges development of a canonical procedure to correct popes who—how exactly to put this?—leave confusion in their wake, people are going to take notice. I have seen only news reports of Nichols’ address (not the speech itself), [me too] but a few comments occur to me that won’t come as a surprise to Nichols but that might help inform others’ reactions to them. [I haven’t yet seen any lib reaction to Nichols’ offering. Over at the National Sodomitic Reporter, for example, they are still pushing for a change to the Church’s teachings about sexuality under the guise of a request for “dialogue”.]

First, while most provisions in the Code of Canon Law are of human (albeit, ecclesiastical, usually pontifical) origin, implying the possibility of changes in them in accord with circumstances, some canons rest on divine law foundations and are not, therefore, so easily amended—however appealing such changes might seem to be. Such is the case, I suggest, with Canon 331 on the full and supreme authority of the Roman Pontiff and Canon 1404 on the immunity of the Holy See from judgment (canonical or civil). These canons (and others besides, say, Canon 1372) serve the decision of Our Lord to leave Peter and his successors basically free to act as they see fit in guiding the Church, meaning that such canons, operating in support of a divinely-sanctioned freedom, are not liable to repeal if popes misuse that freedom. All of this Nichols takes for granted, of course.

Nichols also knows, however, that Petrine freedom has limits, that it is not something bestowed in order to make possible, say, papal plundering of Church property or dalliances with dangerous theological theories (both of which have happened in the past), [indeed] but rather, it serves the Church’s need for, and the faithful’s right to, certainty and continuity in Catholicism’s witness to the teachings of Jesus. [Enter close allies of the Holy Father, Card. Kasper – who thinks that Sacred Scripture can mean different things in different periods – and the SG of the Jesuits – who thinks we can’t know what the Lord said.] Canon law read as a whole (and not cherry-picked to get the results one hopes for) operates in service to all of doctrine (and not just the parts that sound convenient to this generation or that).

Canonical evidence of one such limitation on papal power is found in, for example, Canon 336 which recognizes the college of bishops (properly understood) as also a subject of full and supreme power in the Church—a mystery, to be sure, how one Church can have two subjects of full and supreme power, but nevertheless an ecclesiological given to be reckoned with, not ignored. Nichols might, for all I know, have referenced Canon 336 in his original speech; if he did not, he certainly could have done so. [I think we should try to get Fr Nichols’ text.  Indeed, I suspect that he will be back with this same topic in the not too distant future.]

But another check against this papal freedom turning into license, albeit a check harder to pin down than are neatly drafted canons, is “Tradition”.

Tradition, not canon law, holds the Church to accept a host of truths, for example, that Jesus rose from the dead, that canonized saints are in heaven, and that contraception between married couples is objectively gravely wrong, such that [for those of you in Columbia Heights, “in such a way that”] a pope who suddenly challenged the reality of the Resurrection, the status of one duly canonized, or the gravity of conjugal contraception—or who winked at others doing such things—would stand in urgent need of prayers and would be a proper object for some kind of correction, perhaps such correction as is apparently envisioned by Cdl. Burke and others. [Which would be a real act of charity, and one with far ranging implications.]

But beyond even this—and moving back to what Nichols’ point seemed to be—Tradition has some even more startling things to say about popes who might fall into heresy. To summarize a long story already shortened here, the Church is not defenseless against heresy from popes. Under certain rare circumstances, one is talking, according to several weighty authors, about the loss of pontifical office itself.  [In a nutshell, some authors think that were a Successor of Peter to depart from Peter’s teaching, then we would in effect have departed from Peter’s chair… his “See”.  Not all agree.  Moreover, it is an unlikely scenario, given the work of the Holy Spirit, who intervenes to avoid disaster.  That said, let us not fall into gnostic papalotry.]

There are, of course, several practical problems with Nichols’ proposal for changes to canon law (some of which problems he noted in the reported version of his remarks) and to which I would add a simple one: popes are the Legislator of canon law, and the chances of any legislator writing a law that could be used against him are slim. [There is that.] But, if the commentators cited in my earlier blog are really saying what they seem to be saying, we might not need new canon laws to deal with the problem.

Tradition might already have a solution.

I wonder what the “Tradition Solution” might look like.   I suspect that it would involve important theologians and many bishops walking a tightrope of deep and thorough criticism of some papal position while not avoiding hard conclusions.

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