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Tag Archives: liturgical translation
Liturgical tweaking: rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic
A few days ago, Corriere della sera had a piece explaining that on 29 November, the 1st Sunday of Advent, the suffering Italians who still bother with the Church will now have to change the way they have prayed the … Read More
Posted in Liturgy Science Theatre 3000, You must be joking!
Tagged liturgical translation, Our Father
9 Comments
9 Comments
WDTPRS: Collect of the new Mass “In time of pandemic” v. Collect of traditional Mass, “In time of pestilence”. Wherein Fr. Z rants
Remember: We are our rites. The way we pray has a reciprocal relationship with what we believe. Change our prayers and our belief will, over time, shift and vice versa. This dynamic is at the core of the phrase from … Read More
Pope Francis: “Some will awake for eternal life, others for everlasting shame”
The liturgy wars are probably going to flare up again. Not long ago the Pope changed the way that liturgical translations are approved and then, in an informal manner, suggested a few interpretive principles, none of which he has codified. … Read More
Posted in Four Last Things, Francis, Liturgy Science Theatre 3000, PRO MULTIS, WDTPRS
Tagged liturgical translation, PRO MULTIS
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16 Comments
H.L. Mencken in 1923 about translation of sacred texts, liturgy. Hilarious, prophetic, applicable now.
One of you readers here sent this. It is by H.L Mencken, an influential American columnist in the 20th c. He was prodigiously clever, but clever enough to avoid being a fan of Nietzche and an enemy of religion. He … Read More
What Does Pope Francis’ Letter To Card. Sarah Really Say?
By now you have seen coverage of a letter that his Holiness of Our Lord Pope Francis sent to an Italian site, La Nuova Bussola, for publication. [HERE] Inter alia, it explains something about the meaning of Magnum principium, Pope Francis’ … Read More
Posted in The Drill
Tagged Card. Sarah, Liturgiam authenticam, liturgical translation, Magnum principium
18 Comments
18 Comments
The Germans are revolting.
And so it begins. When Magnum principium came out (which increased the role of bishops conferences in the preparation of liturgical translations), I mentioned that the Germans are usually the problem. HERE Now there’s this from the Catholic Herald. My emphases and comments. … Read More
Card. Sarah: Holy See has last word on liturgical translations
People ran around with their hair on fire a while back when Pope Francis changed the process by which translations of the liturgical texts are prepared. He gave a greater role to bishops conferences. I read today at the National … Read More
New Apostolic Letter Motu Proprio changes law about preparation, approval of liturgical translations
Today a new Apostolic Letter Motu Proprio was issued under the Latin title “Magnum principium”. In various languages HERE (including the Latin text). There’s a lot to say. I can’t now be exhaustive. Also, I want to read slowly the … Read More
Posted in Francis, Liturgy Science Theatre 3000, SESSIUNCULA, The Drill
Tagged liturgical translation, Magnum principium
59 Comments
59 Comments
Speaking of storms on the horizon: Motu Proprio on approval of liturgical translations
My spies tell me that something is up in Rome and that, tomorrow, we may see some … sub-optimal news in the the form of a document. Pray that this is wrong. ___ UPDATE: I’m starting to get calls about this. … Read More
Tinkeritis: Screwing around with, screwing up, liturgical translations
You may have heard that there is an initiative underway to “review” or “study” vernacular translations of the texts of Mass and the norms according to which they are to be prepared as given in Liturgiam authenticam. This would be … Read More
“O God, you are so big!” Maronite English liturgical translations: Devastation!
For decades we Latin Church Catholics in the English speaking world suffered from hideous liturgical translations, prepared by ICEL. Remember what they were like? Here is the quintessential, typical, emblematic, prototypical, illustrative, archetypal, representative Obsolete ICEL prayer: O God, you are … Read More
ASK FATHER: Priest continues to use old, outdated translation for Mass
From a reader… QUAERITUR: Pater, our parish priest has this book “Vatican II Weekday Missal” which he uses to celebrate Holy Mass. The problem that it is the old translation of the Missal. My question is, when we attend that Mass using … Read More
VATICAN: No. You can’t use the 1998 English translation.
I saw this at The Pill (aka The Tablet aka RU-486), which makes it all the more enjoyable to read. Vatican liturgy secretary rules out possibility of Catholics using 1998 Mass translation A Vatican archbishop has ruled out the possibility … Read More
Critics of the new, corrected translation would have, back in the day, resisted also the King James Bible
It is often said, by liberals, that because in ancient Rome there was a shift from Greek to Latin for the Roman liturgy, and since Latin was the vernacular back then, we should abandon Latin now and use the vernacular … Read More
Posted in "How To..." - Practical Notes, Brick by Brick, New Evangelization, The Drill, The future and our choices
Tagged 1611, Douai Bible, Gas Board English, King James Bible, liturgical translation, Miles Coverdale, new corrected translation, r, Rachel Boulding, Richard Dawkins, William Tyndale
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32 Comments
Fr. John Zuhlsdorf on ROME DAY 25/01 -01: Cheeseburger: “You are right. Sack the Queen. Mate in 4 not two. Sorry about that. It’s what you get when working…”
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