From a reader:
With the recent news of the upcoming ordination of several men to the Minor Orders, I was wondering — perhaps you’ve spoken on this — what is the canonical standing of these men? I know several people, hostile and dismissive of the Extraordinary Form, who ridicule and passively insult men who are in FSSP, or some other likeminded communities, by denying them credence to their reception of the Minor Orders. These hostile men might say to a man who has received porter, exorcist, or even the order of subdiaconate, that “it doesn’t even exist anymore” or “it is a fantasy”……How would you respond, dear Father?
In olden days the clerical state began with tonsure. Now, the clerical state begins with ordination to the diaconate. Furthermore, the minor orders were, in the Latin Church, suppressed by Paul VI.
And yet here we are talking about them, aren’t we?
I am not sure what happens when men are given minor orders in traditional groups today. I know they don’t become clerics until diaconate, but what they are before that is a bit unclear.
It seems unlikely that the Holy See would be satisfied with the answer that they are just playing make-believe, or “simulating” something when minor orders ceremonies are conducted. So, the minor orders appear to do something. It isn’t a fantasy. The Holy See wouldn’t want them playing make-believe.
Are the men who receive the order of Porter, Porters? I suppose they are unless the Holy See issues a clarification that they are not.
It isn’t absolutely that someone who is made a porter be also a cleric.
I suspect in the present environment of talks with the SSPX were someone to ask the PCED for a response on such a question, they would probably get a very traditionally-minded response, if they go a response at all.
After a hard day of sorting out the sticky question of whether of not men can still be ordained as exorcists, why not also stick your teeth together with some caramels… from Carmelites. Get it? Carmel?… ehem
Yes, not only to the Wyoming Carmelites roast coffee they also have caramels.
Enjoy them along with a piping hot WDTPRS mug of their fine coffee as you contemplate exorcists and porters.
Just like that old tonsure, Mystic Monk coffee is a cut above. Heheh… get it? A cut ab … right. Okay.
And, it’s still swell!