Today in Houston there was a presser with Card. DiNardo of Houston-Galveston and Msgr. Steenson the Ordinary of the Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of Peter.
Both men has good Patristic credentials.
Card. DiNardo is an alumus of my school, the Patristic Institute “Augustinianum”.
Msgr. Steenson did his DPhil in Oxford in Patristics.
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The wonderful thing about being a Patristics scholar is that one knows the teaching of the Church. Blessed John Henry Cardinal Newman was converted by studying the Fathers of the Church. I am more apt to listen to a man, woman, priest with such a background than not. This is not an accident that these priests have such an academic and intellectual basis. God bless them.
Surely something they share with the Holy Father.
But I bet he never wore his pectoral cross in his pocket. Is the weight of the cross to much for his eminence’s neck?
Blaise,
It was probably interfering with the microphone in one way or another…
Supertradmum,
your generosity of interpretation puts me to shame, but I do so hate it when bishops walk around with their pectoral cross tucked out of sight. I am sure you are right in this instance.
There’s nothing wrong with wearing a pectoral cross like that.
Speaking as a klutz, I have no doubt in my mind that bishops have in the past hooked their pectoral crosses against microphones, doorknobs, and the like, and have either practically strangled themselves, practically snapped their necks, or definitely snapped the chain of their cross, sending it onto the floor or skittering into nasty things that sacramentals should never be dumped into. And of course, there’s the ever-popular “fall down and scratch up the cross” or “fall down and practically impale one’s chest on the cross.” It’s probably pretty bad for a bishop’s nice tailored suit if he does that.
Modern clothing is very unforgiving when it comes to things like that, whereas large, heavy pendant jewelry is a lot easier to manage on the relatively flowing styles of pre-modern clothing.
I believe that Fr. Steenson is an Augustianium alum as well — I know he was at least working towards an STL there a couple of years ago.
By the way, how does one address an Ordinary, both in person and in correspondence? I assume it isn’t “your Ordinariness”. Is it “The Rt Rev”? What is the salutation in the letter? What do you say when you meet him?
@ JohnB go to http://www.fisheaters.com/addressingclergy.html and scroll down to monsignor for your answer.
JohnB, Msgr. Steenson would have been referred to as “The Right Reverend” when he was a bishop of the Episcopal Church. Thanks to glennbcnu for the Fisheaters link; I find it very interesting that the same designation applies to him now as a monsignor.
Is he a Monsignor yet?
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I’m sure Blessed John Henry Newman is praying for them. His prayers have done wonders for me, and now I’ve got him working on my family too. His influence is strong here in Oxfordshire. May he soon be numbered among the saints!
Years ago when I was able to take it easy on Sunday mornings I set a second alarm for 10am tuned to the Dallas classical music station to listen to Msgr Fischer’s Pastoral Reflections program. This was followed by a program from St Andrew’s Episcopal Church in Fort Worth, and it struck me that their Rector, Rev. Steenson’s sermons did not seem any less Catholic than Msgr Fischer’s. How could he stay Protestant?
This seems to have turned out better than I hoped! :-)