“Cancel the Dublin gathering and instead lead a two-day procession of public penitence”

In Dublin, there is scheduled a World Meeting of Families, later this month.

Is this a good idea right now?

Given what is going on, is an autumn Synod on Young People (where homosexual stuff is sure to be soft-peddled according to a pre-conceived plan) a good idea?

At The Catholic Thing, Robert Royal wrote:


The Dublin meeting is taking place at a time when the Church is heading into yet another dark time. The scandal reaches to the highest levels of the Vatican. Chilean Cardinal Francisco Javier Errazuriz Ossa, a member of the pope’s own council of nine cardinals, may – like McCarrick – have to resign as secular authorities pursue him for cover-up of abuse. A Chilean commission is threatening to rescind the citizenship of his successor, Cardinal Ricardo Ezzati Andrello, an Italian who received Chilean citizenship a decade ago. [Farrell is scheduled to speak at the Dublin meeting!]

And all this is just the barest beginning of what inevitably will be a wave of charges and investigations in many places, including the Vatican, now that the process has really started.


It won’t happen, but the Church would do well to cancel the Dublin gathering and instead lead a two-day procession of public penitence for what has happened, in Ireland as well. And make it an annual thing. And while we’re at it, instead of discussing LGBTs and varied “forms of families” in Dublin and at the upcoming Synod on Youth in October, the Church should put such matters on hold, and clean up it’s own house first.


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  1. JonPatrick says:

    Interesting that today’s reading in the Ordinary Form is about Jeremiah prophesying how God will treat Jerusalem as he did Shiloh, the former holy place of the Jews that was allegedly destroyed by the Philistines. The leaders of course don’t believe his warnings and want to put him to death – an early case of shooting the messenger. Then just the other day we have the seminarians in Honduras who speak out and the response from Pope Francis’ right hand man Cardinal Maradiaga is to attack the seminarians rather than acknowledge the problem.

  2. Fallibilissimo says:

    WOAH!!! For this to be coming from Robert Royal means something is up! His is an opinion I hold in the highest esteem, not least because he’s so careful and intelligent in his commentary.

    Maybe this can be a really good moment for the Church? Many of us have a sense that something is not right “in the state of Denmark”, even if it’s hard to put a finger on it.

    One can accuse me of being hopeful!

  3. Kathleen10 says:

    Oh no, there is absolutely no reason to delay or change the plan. In fact, it can’t come fast enough now. This is a train, loaded with nuclear waste, and it is hurtling down the track at warp speed, faster than the Acela. The conductors can’t wait to get there.
    The men who currently have the Church by the throat, are implementing their plan for her, and for us, and it’s all going swimmingly. They are not sorry, they are not contrite, they are not humbled nor regretful. In the face of “Uncle Ted” and the many prancing, molesting priests and bishops slithering out from under the rocks, their leader’s answer is, change Catholic dogma overnight. It doesn’t matter that the pope does not have the authority to change dogma, and that he is calling into question 2000 years of teaching not to mention the Old Testament. It does not matter this completely upsets millions of right-minded Catholics who understand this is not in line with prior teaching, but is brand, spanking new, and not what a pope is entitled to do. He is to pass along Catholic dogma and clarify that teaching if there is a question, not make up his own by quoting, himself. Like good knuckleheads rather than simply stating “You have no authority to do that” we are all now discussing the merits, or not, of the death penalty. We are easy peasy lemon squeezy to these men. They play the diabolical tune and we dance a diabolical jig.
    They will not be interested in any reparation. They are going to double down and move faster. They are untouchable, none dare try to stop them, and they know it.

  4. Charivari Rob says:

    To take Royal’s question a step farther, it might be a good idea for the Church to put a hold on all less important things – family conferences, pilgrimages, youth days, liturgical movements, etc.. – until the other matter is satisfactorily under way.
    Other than making the perfect (or a good and important step) an enemy of the good, of course…
    Seriously, though… such a move would succeed in interfering with or preventing the good this conference might do. Also, alienating and hurting families that have planned their holiday time to go (not just the central events, but diocesan satellite events for those not going to the central events).
    Seriously, pray for this conference. I’m in Ireland right now, getting around a bit of the country. I’m seeing good things, like publicity, anticipation, planning, participation from other dioceses, participation from the parishes in those dioceses. I’m also hearing whispers of bad things – efforts to annoy, embarrass, interfere & sabotage – people with no interest or intent to participate, trying to get event tickets both to keep interested people from going and to spin it as underattended, out of touch, etc…

  5. Daddio says:

    Or, keep the meeting, but disinvite all the bishops and above…

    [Interesting idea.]

  6. servusfidelis says:

    I’m all for cancelling the Dublin gathering but with all due respect for Robert Royal, apologies are useless. [Is there a connection there, somewhere?] We’ve heard them all from our priests, bishops and popes and they never amount to anything other than empty rhetoric. If they have a march it should perhaps be a demand for accountability and a secular court with power to prosecute looking into this whole swamp including Vatican finances. We should have judges with the power to actually issue sentences to those who are found guilty of crimes both financial and sexual in nature. Those who are known to be homosexual (active or not) should be referred publicly to the Church for evaluation as to their ability to represent Christ in persona Christi or if they represent the Christ of scripture who is quite obviously a normal masculine figure. Lets not stop and pedophilia but clean out the Augean stables of men who should never have entered the seminary much less been ordained into the priesthood.

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  8. ChgoCatholic says:

    Truth, Kathleen10. Thank you for speaking it! In a way, I think the crash needs to happen. We need the evils exposed and things to hit bottom, unfortunately. But then, if we are paying attention to Our Lady, we knew all of this was to pass. The challenge now is for the faithful to endure and do our best to guide our fellow believers (and our fellow man, period) with truth and by example, and pray steadfastly that not too many souls are lost as we go down this dark but necessary (inevitable?) path. May the blood and water of the Sacred Heart wash over us, and the Holy Spirit guide our Church safely through these uphill battles!

  9. jaykay says:

    servusfidelus: “Let’s not stop at pedophilia…”

    But it was never really about that in the first place, of course. It was, and remains, all about pederasty and homosexuality. In a link posted in another thread here today you can find the following accurate description:

    “…when the long Lent came and more than 80 percent of the victims were young men, we were eager to claim these homosexual assaults weren’t homosexual at all but pedophile, which we were quickly told has nothing to do with homosexuality.”

    The “H” bomb can never be dropped, you see, even though everybody knows it’s there. Sort of like the Cold War, really, when a lot of people just closed their minds to it all. Of course, the enemy was Red back then, not pink.

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