Tag Archives: Novus Ordo

ASK FATHER: How do you argue with extreme fringe trads that the Novus Ordo is valid?

From a reader… QUAERITUR: I am asking advice that you’d think you’d never be asked to do – how to defend the Novus Ordo.  No, I don’t mean to defend it as being superior to the TLM – trust me, … Read More

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Another Novus Ordo “unique expression”, again in Italy

I was alerted by a friend about a Tweet about the “unique expression” of the Roman Rite, the Novus Ordo. Meet don (Father) Fabio Corazzina, a parish priest (parroco) in Brescia… where the promulgator of the Novus Ordo came from… … Read More

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Meanwhile, the Novus Ordo is the only expression of the Roman Rite… not.

This Mass in the United States of America has divided opinion What are your thoughts? pic.twitter.com/mkZsEVuYAR — Catholic Arena (@CatholicArena) August 8, 2022  

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ASK FATHER: Should displaced Catholics attend the Novus Ordo? Wherein Fr. Z rants.

I begin with his peroration… Perhaps the bishops are not thinking about the liturgy at all, but about the people – whose devotion they envy, and whose moral conservatism they detest. Is that it? Are they more to be punished … Read More

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ASK FATHER: Quo vadis, Novus Ordo?

From a reader… QUAERITUR: I pose my question about the Novus Ordo Missae in homage to the now famous question, “What is a woman?” It seems to me that the Consilium took a rib from the 1962 Missal and instead … Read More

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ACTION ITEM! Must see brief VIDEO Alert! What was done to the Mass?

Part 2 of the trilogy Mass of Ages is out. I have some mixed feelings about this second part, to which I will perhaps give voice in the future. Keep in mind that I’ve been writing and commenting on these … Read More

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WDTPRS: The Traditional Latin Mass and the NON-Traditional Latin Mass (Novus Ordo) are NOT the same simply because they are both in Latin. Wherein Fr. Z explains also the motives of those who attack the TLM.

The hatred shown for traditional sacred liturgical worship of the Roman Church, and the excuses claimed for its marginalization and extirpation are rooted in more than “Spirit of Vatican II” ideology and it’s companion specter, the papalatrous “Spirit of Vatican … Read More

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Fr. Hunwicke asks a hard question. Fr. Z thinks he deserves an answer.

I’ve had conversations that go along sort of like this: “The Novus Ordo can be reverent!”, many will claim, “You just have to celebrated it as traditionally as you can!” “You mean, by sticking to the Roman style, adapting elements … Read More

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ASK FATHER: Purify a ciborium using a cloth purificator?

From a Jesuit priest… QUAERITUR: I have a question regarding purification: In the Vetus Ordo, it is customary to purify the paten with the thumb and index finger. What is the correct way to purify a ciborium? In the Novus … Read More

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PODCAzT 182: New Book on the TLM; Response to a question: “How do we know the Novus Ordo isn’t evil?”

In this PODCAzT I offer some thoughts, and a brief reading from, the prolifically indefatigable Peter Kwasniewski, a copy of which recently arrived: Reclaiming Our Roman Catholic Birthright: The Genius and Timeliness of the Traditional Latin Mass US HERE – … Read More

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30 Nov 1969 – 50th Anniversary of imposition of the Novus Ordo – PODCAzTs Revisited

It has been 50 years. 50 long years. Some might say, “Only 50? It seems longer.” Note the bizzare photo of a Novus Ordo being celebrated in the Sistine Chapel. Today marks the 50th anniversary of the going-into-effect of Paul … Read More

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“But Father!  But Father!”, some of you pussivanting libs are zeeping,…

I have often commented that the cutters and pasters who glued the Novus Ordo orations together on their scholarly desks systematically excised certain concepts, such as sin, guilt, propitiation, etc. You know, the “scary” stuff that might make people feel … Read More

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PODCAzT 171: The strange birth of the Novus Ordo – 50 years later

This last week saw the 50th anniversary of the “birth” of the Novus Ordo – after an unnaturally swift gestation – on 3 April 1969 when Paul VI promulgated the Apostolic Constitution Missale Romanum. Today I read for you, and I … Read More

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It was 50 years ago today… Paul VI’s Apostolic Constitution “Missale Romanum”

Precisely 50 years ago today the “God of Surprises”, through his permissive will and his vicar Paul, allowed us to experience a brand new version of Mass. The Apostolic Constitution Missale Romanum was promulgated by Paul VI on 3 April … Read More

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ASK FATHER: Separating priest from altar in the Novus Ordo

From a reader… I have a question about the GIRM. If I’m reading it correctly everything except from the Offertory through Communion Rite must be done from the chair, and the missal and chalice placed elsewhere except for those times. … Read More

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“We have to learn how to be Roman priests again.” Wherein Fr. Z rants.

My morning coffee with homemade scone and my side-wise viewing of the Stage 4 of the Tour was enriched by the reading of Fr. Hunwicke’s Mutual Enrichment. He, also in stages, has been commenting on aspects of the Roman Canon … Read More

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Communion in the hand. Wherein Fr. Z rants and provokes.

Not long ago, Robert Card. Sarah penned a preface for a recent book (HERE) about Communion in the hand.  The Cardinal Prefect of the CDW argues that various forces and practices have diminished faith in the Eucharist.  Some of those … Read More

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We Are Our Rites! Wherein Fr. Z rants after reading Peter Kwasniewski

At NLM, PK has a good offering.  (“Ho hum!”, you are saying, because I have to write that so often.) Starting with Nietzsche and his famous “God is dead”, he spins up a good argument about “modern” liturgy, liturgists, etc., … Read More

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ASK FATHER: Could it be a sin to attend a Novus Ordo Mass if you think the TLM is superior?

From a reader… QUAERITUR: If a lay person is presented with the option to attend either a Novus Ordo Mass or a Traditional Latin Mass, and, in turn, (a) believes that the TLM is more substantively and consistently reverent to … Read More

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NLM: Useful study of creation of the Novus Ordo Lectionary

Have you followed the tennis match back and forth that has resulted since Card. Sarah’s suggestion in La Nef that the Extraordinary and the Ordinary Forms of Mass should have a coordinated Lectionary? Some were cool about that suggestion and … Read More

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