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- Not on Viewing oppression in the Archdiocese of Detroit through the lens of a video: “Here in Taxachusetts, Our former Cardinal sold majority of Churches in middle Class and wealthy cities and towns. PRIME REAL…”
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- on Daily Rome Shot 1373 – Dedication: ““Young people, be not afraid…” Except, they aren’t afraid to dedicate their lives to Christ. They’re afraid of mediocrity and…”
- on “O vos omnes sordidi mementote retrorsi…!” More joy in Detroit.: “So, while Catholics desiring the TLM are not welcome, their money is. This speaks volumes to me on what his…”
- on Viewing oppression in the Archdiocese of Detroit through the lens of a video: “Meanwhile, Sacred Heart of Jesus in Port Chester, NY, closed in 2017, was sold off and recently torn down. A…”
- on “O vos omnes sordidi mementote retrorsi…!” More joy in Detroit.: “Thanks for the gold star! I didn’t expect it!”
- on “O vos omnes sordidi mementote retrorsi…!” More joy in Detroit.: “As a born-and-raised-in-the-VII-Church guy, I have no idea what any of this Latin means, but I’m pretty sure the Commissar,…”
- on “O vos omnes sordidi mementote retrorsi…!” More joy in Detroit.: “Yeah, I bet I’ve made forty mistakes in Latin composition and poetry! I’m a barbarian!”
- on “O vos omnes sordidi mementote retrorsi…!” More joy in Detroit.: “Trying to write a nice letter from a bishop’s POV, that covers the same ground. “O congregati, o celebrati secundum…”
- on Diocese of Charlotte and the “Salt March to the Sea”: “amen: Don’t forget Xenophon! “Θάλαττα! θάλαττα!””
- on Here we go again! Comments on forcing table altars and forbidding Mass “ad orientem”.: ““… the word ‘expedit‘ (‘is desirable’) required no obligation, but was a simple suggestion.” Another aspect, for us in the…”
- on Diocese of Charlotte and the “Salt March to the Sea”: “That is a great image to keep in mind, Ghandi’s successful grassroots resistance to the British occupation of India. Sorry,…”
- on Daily Rome Shot 1373 – TRINITY!: “…, Rxg2+ Kh1, Rg1+ (check by R and by B) Kxg1, Rg8+ Bg4, Rxg4#”
- on “O vos omnes sordidi mementote retrorsi…!” More joy in Detroit.: “In the meantime, your local parish is revising the old Marty Haugan tune “All are welcome” to a hip new…”
- on “O vos omnes sordidi mementote retrorsi…!” More joy in Detroit.: “I live in a part of Pennsylvania where there is no Vetus Ordo for hours in any direction. I came…”
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Tag Archives: Novus Ordo
ASK FATHER: How do you argue with extreme fringe trads that the Novus Ordo is valid?
From a reader… QUAERITUR: I am asking advice that you’d think you’d never be asked to do – how to defend the Novus Ordo. No, I don’t mean to defend it as being superior to the TLM – trust me, … Read More
Another Novus Ordo “unique expression”, again in Italy
I was alerted by a friend about a Tweet about the “unique expression” of the Roman Rite, the Novus Ordo. Meet don (Father) Fabio Corazzina, a parish priest (parroco) in Brescia… where the promulgator of the Novus Ordo came from… … Read More
Meanwhile, the Novus Ordo is the only expression of the Roman Rite… not.
This Mass in the United States of America has divided opinion What are your thoughts? pic.twitter.com/mkZsEVuYAR — Catholic Arena (@CatholicArena) August 8, 2022
ASK FATHER: Should displaced Catholics attend the Novus Ordo? Wherein Fr. Z rants.
I begin with his peroration… Perhaps the bishops are not thinking about the liturgy at all, but about the people – whose devotion they envy, and whose moral conservatism they detest. Is that it? Are they more to be punished … Read More
ASK FATHER: Quo vadis, Novus Ordo?
From a reader… QUAERITUR: I pose my question about the Novus Ordo Missae in homage to the now famous question, “What is a woman?” It seems to me that the Consilium took a rib from the 1962 Missal and instead … Read More
ACTION ITEM! Must see brief VIDEO Alert! What was done to the Mass?
Part 2 of the trilogy Mass of Ages is out. I have some mixed feelings about this second part, to which I will perhaps give voice in the future. Keep in mind that I’ve been writing and commenting on these … Read More
WDTPRS: The Traditional Latin Mass and the NON-Traditional Latin Mass (Novus Ordo) are NOT the same simply because they are both in Latin. Wherein Fr. Z explains also the motives of those who attack the TLM.
The hatred shown for traditional sacred liturgical worship of the Roman Church, and the excuses claimed for its marginalization and extirpation are rooted in more than “Spirit of Vatican II” ideology and it’s companion specter, the papalatrous “Spirit of Vatican … Read More
ASK FATHER: Purify a ciborium using a cloth purificator?
From a Jesuit priest… QUAERITUR: I have a question regarding purification: In the Vetus Ordo, it is customary to purify the paten with the thumb and index finger. What is the correct way to purify a ciborium? In the Novus … Read More
PODCAzT 182: New Book on the TLM; Response to a question: “How do we know the Novus Ordo isn’t evil?”
In this PODCAzT I offer some thoughts, and a brief reading from, the prolifically indefatigable Peter Kwasniewski, a copy of which recently arrived: Reclaiming Our Roman Catholic Birthright: The Genius and Timeliness of the Traditional Latin Mass US HERE – … Read More
30 Nov 1969 – 50th Anniversary of imposition of the Novus Ordo – PODCAzTs Revisited
It has been 50 years. 50 long years. Some might say, “Only 50? It seems longer.” Note the bizzare photo of a Novus Ordo being celebrated in the Sistine Chapel. Today marks the 50th anniversary of the going-into-effect of Paul … Read More
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Tagged Novus Ordo, Paul VI, podcast, PODCAzT, Sacrosanctum Concilium
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“But Father! But Father!”, some of you pussivanting libs are zeeping,…
I have often commented that the cutters and pasters who glued the Novus Ordo orations together on their scholarly desks systematically excised certain concepts, such as sin, guilt, propitiation, etc. You know, the “scary” stuff that might make people feel … Read More
PODCAzT 171: The strange birth of the Novus Ordo – 50 years later
This last week saw the 50th anniversary of the “birth” of the Novus Ordo – after an unnaturally swift gestation – on 3 April 1969 when Paul VI promulgated the Apostolic Constitution Missale Romanum. Today I read for you, and I … Read More
It was 50 years ago today… Paul VI’s Apostolic Constitution “Missale Romanum”
Precisely 50 years ago today the “God of Surprises”, through his permissive will and his vicar Paul, allowed us to experience a brand new version of Mass. The Apostolic Constitution Missale Romanum was promulgated by Paul VI on 3 April … Read More
ASK FATHER: Separating priest from altar in the Novus Ordo
From a reader… I have a question about the GIRM. If I’m reading it correctly everything except from the Offertory through Communion Rite must be done from the chair, and the missal and chalice placed elsewhere except for those times. … Read More
“We have to learn how to be Roman priests again.” Wherein Fr. Z rants.
My morning coffee with homemade scone and my side-wise viewing of the Stage 4 of the Tour was enriched by the reading of Fr. Hunwicke’s Mutual Enrichment. He, also in stages, has been commenting on aspects of the Roman Canon … Read More
We Are Our Rites! Wherein Fr. Z rants after reading Peter Kwasniewski
At NLM, PK has a good offering. (“Ho hum!”, you are saying, because I have to write that so often.) Starting with Nietzsche and his famous “God is dead”, he spins up a good argument about “modern” liturgy, liturgists, etc., … Read More
ASK FATHER: Could it be a sin to attend a Novus Ordo Mass if you think the TLM is superior?
From a reader… QUAERITUR: If a lay person is presented with the option to attend either a Novus Ordo Mass or a Traditional Latin Mass, and, in turn, (a) believes that the TLM is more substantively and consistently reverent to … Read More
NLM: Useful study of creation of the Novus Ordo Lectionary
Have you followed the tennis match back and forth that has resulted since Card. Sarah’s suggestion in La Nef that the Extraordinary and the Ordinary Forms of Mass should have a coordinated Lectionary? Some were cool about that suggestion and … Read More
Not on Viewing oppression in the Archdiocese of Detroit through the lens of a video: “Here in Taxachusetts, Our former Cardinal sold majority of Churches in middle Class and wealthy cities and towns. PRIME REAL…”
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