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  • 18 November 2007

    The Hungarian Tiara given to Pope John Paul II in 1981

    CATEGORY: SESSIUNCULUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 10:59 am

    Fr. Blake has an interesting story he picked up from Hallowed Ground who picked it up from Traditional Catholicism, who posted one of my photos.... whew… about the fact that in 1981 Hungarians gave a papal tiara to Pope John Paul II.

    Interesting, no?

     

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    Excitement over very strange news piece: a Memo on seminarians and the old Mass

    CATEGORY: SESSIUNCULUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 10:53 am

    There is a little item from Adkronos piece going around which has a few people excited.  However, this item is simply weird.

     Citta’ del Vaticano, 17 nov. (Adnkronos) – E’ allo studio una circolare rivolta ai seminari in cui si chiede di insegnare ai futuri sacerdoti anche la celebrazione della messa in latino. A quanto si apprende da autorevoli fonti, il dicastero presieduto dal cardinale Dario Castrillon Hoyos, tra i principali caldeggiatori del ritorno della messa secondo il rito preconciliare, starebbe pensando ad una circolare indirizzata ai seminaristi che nella pratica vuole rivolgersi direttamente a quei vescovi che, ‘disobbedendo’ al motu proprio del Papa, non ne vogliono sapere di celebrare la messa secondo il rito di San Pio V.

    We will leave aside the simply dreaful Italian.  Second, a main point of this item is that the Pontifical Commission "Ecclesia Dei" would be putting out a memo (circolare) to seminarians

    That is, of course, absurd.  However, something prompted this bizarre little piece.  So, after some digging, we find this longer piece in Adkronos:

    Here are the bullet points:

    • There are "disobedient" bishops out there.  While the president of the conference, Archbp. (Card.) Bagnasco of Genoa implemented the document, some other Italian bishops were relatively cold about it.
    • The Pontifical Commission is preparing a memorandum for seminaries which asks them to teach seminarians also to say the older form of Mass.  This is from the concern of Card. Castrillon Hoyos that seminarians may have bishops who are "disobedient" in this matter.
    • The memorandum is still in an "embryonic state".
    • The director of the Holy See’s publication Latinitas, Fr. Anacelto Pavanetto is happy about all this: "This initiative could be a first step for getting the situation into hand.  Because until there is a strong hand, there will always be disobedient parish priests and bishops who refuse to celebrate Mass in Latin".  (I’m unsure whether he means the old Mass or also the Novus Ordo.)
    • "In this regard, the director of the Vatican journal recalled that ‘until three years ago there was a meeting every week to prepare documents addressed especially to seminary instructors and more generally to those teaching in institutes of the Catholic Church, which were precisely about the fact that the Latin language is obligatory.  Then, once Pope Wojtyla died, nothing else was done about it.  The problem (the director insisted again) is that no one has the courage to take humanism up again.  So, I say that a memo addressed for future priests could be an important step, but a strong hand is necessary above all"
    • The article recalls, as WDTPRS also did, that the President of the PCED had an audience with Pope Benedict a few days ago.
    • The article points out that many priests don’t know how to say the old Mass, and they need to study it.  In that case the PCED could placed priests who know the older form at the disposal of those who make requests.


    That last point is absurd, of course.  As much I love the idea of a phone ringing in the offices of an expanded Commission, priests in cassocks and birettas sliding down fire poles, dashing to motorcycles, zipping off on jets with their Vatican passports to say Mass for groups who make requests…. Vincenzo could have fun with that... I think the resources the PCED could provide would be of a more general nature.

    Hmm… there could be some amusing short stories based on that idea, couldn’t there…. but I digress.

    Anyway, here is the longer Adkronos piece in Italian.

    Città del Vaticano, 17 nov. (Adnkronos/Ign) – ‘Disobbedienti’, contro il ‘motu proprio’ di Ratzinger sulla messa in latino che liberalizza il vecchio rito di San Pio V. Autori dell’obiezione silenziosa, del sabotaggio senza clamore non solo i parroci ma anche alcuni vescovi del Belpaese, da Torino a Palermo. E se mon. Bagnasco a Genova ha subito applicato il documento papale, all’ombra di Superga il card. Poletto avrebbe ammonito che ‘’la liturgia non può essere una stravaganza personale’‘, augurandosi che ‘’nessuno esca con queste richieste’‘, mentre a Palermo l’arcivescovo Romeo, secondo alcune fonti riferite oggi da ‘La Stampa’, avrebbe addirittura avuto delle consultazioni riservate con alcuni colleghi per tentare di frenare l’applicazione del ‘motu proprio’. Autorevoli riserve sono state inoltre espresse dal card. Martini e dall’arcivescovo di Pisa Plotti. Il malumore per il ritorno del vecchio rito preconciliare è stato raccolto anche dal segretario della Congregazione per il Culto, l’arcivescovo Albert Ranjith, che ha denunciato le "proteste" di diversi vescovi.

    La circolare, sempre a quanto riferiscono le fonti, sarebbe ancora allo "stato embrionale" ma, a quanto si afferma, è tutta intenzione dell’Ecclesia Dei presieduta dal cardinale Castrillon emanare una circolare in cui ci si rivolge direttamente ai seminari, chiedendo l’introduzione dello studio del rito tridentino per i futuri preti. Un’iniziativa, questa, alla quale si sta pensando "seriamente" da qualche tempo e che riceve il plauso del direttore di ‘Latinitas’, don Anacleto Pavanetto. Afferma il presule: "Questa iniziativa potrebbe essere un primo passo per riprendere in mano la situazione. Perché finché non ci sarà una mano forte ci saranno sempre parroci e vescovi disobbedienti che si rifiutano di celebrare la messa in latino".

    La situazione sconforta il dicastero del cardinale Castrillon che nei giorni scorsi è stato ricevuto in udienza privata dal Papa. Tra i problemi legati alla celebrazione della messa secondo il rito di San Pio V c’è anche il fatto che molti sacerdoti non sono ‘abilitati’ per la celebrazione, nel senso che non ricordano a memoria il vecchio rito e non se la sentono di rimettersi a studiare. In questo caso l’Ecclesia Dei, sempre a quanto riferiscono le fonti, mette a disposizione suoi sacerdoti disposti ad andare a celebrare la messa in latino per quanti la richiedono. 

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    RADIO SABINA and the Z-Cam

    CATEGORY: My View, SESSIUNCULUM — Fr. John Zuhlsdorf @ 12:08 am

    RADIO SABINA and the Z-Cam in the the chapel of The Sabine Farm have been on for a couple weeks.

    BTW… there is a viewer cap, a limit of how many can watch at a time.  If you can’t connect, and you do not get the default video, try again in a while.

    Today I added some more musical selections.  It was surely getting repetitive.  Let’s fix that.

    I want to add a few more audio prayers and readings in the next couple days.  If you have texts or prayers you would like to suggest, you can e-mail them to me.  (No promises.)  Tomorrow, Sunday, I will be doing some audio projects.

    I will take guest submissions, if they are good!  Contribute to RADIO SABINA!

    I need to fiddle around with the lighting.  The chapel has an automatic light system, which I like to have on for a little while in the evening: it makes the chapel shine like a little beacon you can see from far away!  It is gorgeous, especially in the winter when the light from the stained glass reflects on the snow. However, lighting the chapel so much is expensive, as is the level of bandwidth I maintain.  I just had to switch to a single light for a while.

    Now and then my old notebook computer I run this from decides to reboot: I haven’t figured out why.  BUT I WILL. In any event, this means once in a while the cam goes off the air without my knowledge.  If RADIO SABINA goes off air, you might let me know.  If I am not in residence, there might be ways I can get it going remotely.  (I can’t change lightbulbs remotely yet.)   I have improved the audio a little, I think.

    Sometimes, I just go in.  I say the office.  I adjust candles.  I clean.

    Finally… NO... I won’t post Mass times in advance.  However, if I think of it I will post a temporary Mass alert when I am heading out the door.  Mass times vary depending on who is around, my server is available, what my work load is, etc.  For a while I won’t have any server.

    Finally, this is a just little chapel in the middle of nowhere.  It isn’t a grand basilica.  This is merely a cyber-knothole onto a corner of my life.

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