Nancy Pelosi rides again!

Hamas is a “humanitarian organization.”

“And we have to confer with the Qataris, who have told me over and over again that Hamas is a humanitarian organization,” Pelosi said to Crowley.

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Perhaps she should go spend some with Hamas in order to find out what’s in it.

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51 Responses to Nancy Pelosi rides again!

  1. kelleyb says:

    I think Botox has finally poached her brain cells. It is the only rational explanation for some of the things that fall out of her mouth.

  2. acardnal says:

    Pelosi is ignorant of more than just the Catholic catechism.

    Hamas is designated a terrorist organization by Israel, the US, EU, Canada and Japan due to its long record of attacks and its refusal to renounce violence. Under the group’s charter (http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp), Hamas is committed to the destruction of Israel.

    Pelosi should watch the interview Charlie Rose had a couple days ago with the leader of Hamas, Khaled Meshaal, at his home in Qatar. He was asked by Rose if Hamas can coexist with Israel. Meshaal said (and I’m paraphrasing) “Jews, yes. Christians, yes. With the state of Israel, no. They’re occupiers.”

    http://video.pbs.org/video/2365296695/

    Full interview here: http://video.pbs.org/video/2365297457/

  3. Dimitri_Cavalli says:

    Hamas is a humanitarian organization, while the National Organization for Marriage is a “hate group”? I hope Archbishop Cordileone seizes on her logic, or lack thereof.

  4. Priam1184 says:

    Aargh. Enough of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. It is a terrible thing to say because of the large loss of human life, but I am bored with it. I am especially bored when the media machines of the two sides get all fired up and start repeating their endless series of nonsensical cliches about Israel being a poor defenseless little country (they are not by the way) always on the verge of annihilation by Palestinians and their rockets that land in empty fields, and the Palestinians with their endless series of accusations of Israelis committing ‘war crimes’ deliberately targeting civilians when those civilians are in fact placed there by Hamas as human shields for their rocket launchers. Even stupid statements like Pelosi’s always seem to find their way into the mix and we have to listen to endless partisan analysis of her stupidity.

    Enough already the Israelis and the Palestinians are the problem children of the world and we need to quit paying so much attention to them when they throw temper tantrums like this. Maybe then they will find a way to solve this thing before they both end up getting taken out by the catastrophe that is occurring to the north and east of the Promised Land.

  5. FrAnt says:

    Someone must have told her also that Planned Parenthood is an organization that offers women health services.

  6. incredulous says:

    Nancy induces the worst sense of hopelessness one can fathom. It drives one into deep despair that about half of the voting population like what she says and supports her. I feel like I’m a space alien living in a totally bizarre and foreign world.

  7. StJude says:

    Is she mentally all there? I ask that with all seriousness…..

  8. SKAY says:

    When she was Speaker of the House she was third in line to the Presidency behind Obama
    and Biden and she really wants that position again.
    She will say anything for votes.

  9. Amerikaner says:

    While the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is very, very sad, it does not (in my opinion) come close to the story of what is happening with ISIS. While the news is saturated with stories of Israeli-Palestinian violence, it ignores the grave atrocities being committed in the name of Islam. I watched a propaganda video that ISIS themselves recently put together and their joy at slaughter is truly demonic.

  10. RANCHER says:

    Hamas is a humanitarian organization like Pelosi is a devout, orthodox Catholic

  11. ASPM Sem says:

    Am I watching the wrong video? She seemed on Israel’s side. She was quoting someone on the Hamas being humanitarian.

  12. MarkJ says:

    Why should there be a two-state solution? Why should Hamas be given any part of Jewish territory? The Muslims control every other piece of real estate in the Middle East… and some in the West think they should have more? We should be helping to protect Israel’s borders and while we’re at it, maybe we should start reclaiming all the Christian lands seized illegally by the Muslims over the last 1400 years.

  13. James_Locke says:

    If we are being 100% honest, Hamas does have a Humanitarian branch that distributes social services to Gazans.

  14. JARay says:

    The Emir of Qatar is a Hamas supporter and channels more than $800 million each year into Hamas to purchase weaponry with which to attack Israel. The stated aim of Hamas is the total destruction of Israel. Al Jazzera news (which is shown in Australia and in Britain) has two version of its news, one in English and the other in Arabic and the two are like chalk and cheese. All journalists in Gaza have to mouth the news in such a way as to favour Hamas or they are subjected to threats. Occasionally the truth does get out and there have been one or two journalists who have spoken about seeing rockets fired by men who are dressed as civilians and have seen rockets fired from hospitals and schools and then magically the area has been cleaned up except for the debris which has followed when the Israelis retaliate for the rockets fired. The figures of “children” killed have been manipulated and the local civilians have been made to stay put when Israel has warned them of intending attacks.
    As is often said, “truth is the first victim in any war”

  15. jflare says:

    So she says that the Qatari consider Hamas a humanitarian organization, eh? Well, I guess that gives us a bit of insight into the mindset of the Qatari. Not a pretty thought, really.

  16. Andrew D says:

    This latest idiotic statement by Pelosi is not grounds for ex-communication but her militant, pro-abortion views and policy-making abilities are. As long as Pelosi is allowed to call herself a Catholic, receive Holy Communion and yet, author bills and vote on bills to kill unborn babies, it sends a bad impression to fellow Catholics. Enough is enough, it is time for this witch to receive her bell, book and candle.

  17. ray from mn says:

    Do you think she will look good in a burkah?

  18. Sonshine135 says:

    Countries fight back when they are being invaded by other countries. There is a lesson for the US somewhere in there.

  19. JesusFreak84 says:

    There are no words…

  20. CrimsonCatholic says:

    @Father Z and everybody, did you hear about Mosab Hassan Yousef, the son of the co-founder of Hamas, being interviewed by Mark Levin? You all should listen to it. He states, “Hamas doesn’t just want to destroy the state of Israel, but wants a global caliphate on every inch of land around the world, and he said they will kill as many palestinians as they need to accomplish this goal.” Pelosi should consult someone who actually knows what is going on over there.

    @Amerikaner, they are purposely ignoring it, or at least ignoring the Christian persecution.

  21. Legisperitus says:

    ray from mn: Couldn’t be worse.

  22. CradleRevert says:

    I don’t understand why so many conservatives are so quick to take a side in this battle. Both sides deserve reprove. The blockades have kept tens of thousands on the edge of malnutrition, and yet we have to pretend that Israel is just the innocent victim who is merely defending itself in this situation.

  23. CrimsonCatholic says:

    @Cradlerevert- Because Hamas is a terrorist organization with a goal of creating jhad and destruction to the rest of the non-Islam world. Hamas uses the Palestinian people as shields to launch their offensives, or they batter them to fuel world sympathy for their cause. The Palestinians would be much better off if they quit allowing terrorists to rule them.

    Of course Israel isn’t blameless in this, but could you blame them after Muslims have been trying to bring their destruction for 60+ years.

  24. CradleRevert says:

    @CrimsonCatholic – I certainly don’t defend Hamas, but the people of Gaza are the ones who are suffering as a result of the blockades. One evil doesn’t justify another evil.

  25. SKAY says:

    Pelosi was quoting representatives from Qatar. They help fund Hamas.
    Iran has given Hamas weapons.

    Humanitarians?

    http://www.jta.org/2014/07/28/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/report-hamas-planned-rosh-hashanah-attack-through-gaza-tunnels

  26. Ray says:

    The saddest fact is that she won her last election by an 85% to 15% margin. Over 250,000 voters wanted her to be their representative.

  27. robtbrown says:

    MarkJ says:
    Why should there be a two-state solution? Why should Hamas be given any part of Jewish territory? The Muslims control every other piece of real estate in the Middle East… and some in the West think they should have more? We should be helping to protect Israel’s borders

    Here are maps of the area, from 1947 to 2005, that you might find interesting.

    http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2012/09/02/a-wake-up-call-stuart-littlewood/map-of-palestine-1946-2005/

  28. mlmc says:

    Who would have thought she is just as knowledgeable in foreign affairs as she is in Catholic theology! As in not at all.

  29. Rachel K says:

    I read the comments before I came across this one and had to reply :
    MarkJ says:
    30 July 2014 at 11:32 pm
    Why should there be a two-state solution? Why should Hamas be given any part of Jewish territory?

    Erm, maybe because they lived there first in the sense that there was no “State of Israel” before the end of the second World War.
    The whole problem area was ignited by the founding of the State of Israel by the US and Britain, among others, as a solution to the issue of the dispersed Jewish population which was expelled from Europe by the Nazis.
    I have no opinion, political or otherwise, about whether or not an area of land should have been given to some displaced people after they were moved from their home through persecution. What I have a problem with is understanding how on earth anyone thought it was a good idea to take land belonging to a third party and without their consent to give it to someone else.
    This method was bound to end in tears. People rebel and fight when they feel an injustice has been done to them, especially when they are also poorer and less politically powerful than those they feel have injured them.
    The extending (illegally) of land boundaries and the building (illegally) of homes was bound to ignite violence. Now the question is how to help. Reconciliation first requires justice and then forgiveness. Surely justice requires repentance of wrongdoing?
    It is too easy to sit comfortably on the outside and condemn those we do not understand when we do not walk in their shoes. But I do think that political will on this issue is weak and there are many powerful influences which result in the continuing violence.
    At the end of each day, it is the children who suffer most.

  30. Rachel K says:

    I just looked at the maps linked by Rotbrown and feel vindicated in my points. I was shocked by the extent of the land-grabbing that has happened. How was this negotiated ? It may well be true that Hamas has other, more sinister plans but the area is a disaster because of the injustice that has been done there to the original population.

  31. Priam1184 says:

    Hamas would commit genocide if they had the chance I do not doubt. But they do not have the chance nor will they. But the Israelis aren’t the innocent little flowers that Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin make them out to be. They want to rule the West Bank and they seem to have this fantasy that if they build enough settlements there then the Palestinians who live there will just pick up and walk across the Jordan River, but that seems very unlikely.

    Israel puts all this time and effort into flattening Gaza which, in the end, is very little threat to them while all the time a disaster is brewing to their north and east that they will have a much harder time containing. Remember everyone how Nebuchadnezzar once came from the northeast once.

  32. Giuseppe says:

    @”Gaza which, in the end, is very little threat…”

    If you discovered concrete-reinforced tunnels burrowing into your basement which enabled killers to attack members of your household, what would you do?

  33. Reconverted Idiot says:

    Hamas leaders are not stupid, yet they know that those rockets have little to no chance of hitting anything thanks to Israel’s ‘Iron Dome’. The UN have detailed three separate occasions in which Hamas fighters have hidden munitions within UN humanitarian facilities, and it is equally recognized that Hamas have fired from within the vicinity of such facilities. Israeli spokesmen have indicated that in relation to the recent, terrible, shelling of a UN school, that Hamas mortars were being fired from very close to that location.

    I have no truck with Israel’s aggression, land-grabs, flouting of international law etc. But I have to ask what I would do in their situation. In all honesty I cannot reasonably support a two-state solution any more. I seriously suspect that the best hope for the Palestinian people is a one-state solution: a secular, representative democracy, “from the river to the sea”, a “Jewish homeland” with equal citizenship rights for all people living within its borders. It may be a pipe-dream at this point, but I cannot conceive of a better solution. Hamas and the other Islamic organisations, despite whatever humanitarian’ credentials they sport, are committed to the use of force, the annihilation of Israel. They long ago lost any legitimate basis to claim the moral high ground. Had they even taken the line of Gandhi or Ambedkar the entire world would be behind them, and the occupation would now be history.

  34. Kensington says:

    “Is she mentally all there? I ask that with all seriousness…..”

    I believe that she is willfully beholden to evil, and I suppose that might mess with someone’s mind eventually. I, too, say that in all seriousness.

  35. Ray says:

    re: Kensington Over 250,000 voted her in to office. You want to limit her mental acuity to Pelosi. What about the folks who put her in office??? America is much more screwed up than the folks on this blog are willing to admit. Get real. Catholics who think she is a mess are a minority. Canon 915 should have long ago, placed her outside the Body of Christ. Bishops are too cowardly to do their duty. She is the minority leader, who brags about being Catholic. She is voted into her office by multiple hundreds of thousands. Yet we all place the blame on her. She should be formally put adrift regarding her faith. We should be praying for her soul……

  36. SKAY says:

    She stated that she had many Palestinians in her district that she is hearing from.
    San Francisco is also a large part of her district–so I am not surprised at the number of votes in that area for her. Lots of specific Democrat interest groups for her to please in order to keep her seat and that is what is important to her.
    A non Catholic Christian friend asked me if we Catholics were not embarrassed by her.
    The short answer for me was—yes. I did explain.

  37. Giuseppe says:

    @Reconverted Idiot – any sensible Palestinian would happily agree to giving up statehood and live within Israel. With population reproduction rates, they will overtake the Israeli Jews in 50 years and win demographically. Not even the ultra-orthodox west bank residents could keep up with the Palestinians. Israel would be a pariah a la South Africa. But it will never happen.

    There is no ability to see beyond the here-and-now for Hamas. At least Fatah can see one year into the future, but beyond that, nothing…

    Long ago, I thought that Egypt should absorb the Gaza Palestinians and give them the Sinai and Jordan should absorb the West Bank Palestinians to fortify Jordan. But what do I know?

  38. Reconverted Idiot says:

    @Giuseppe – hmm, I doubt the population thing would necessarily follow, given the inevitable secularisation which would also take place, but I take your point. It’s a pitiful kind of argument though, strikes me as something I hear a lot re: immigrants to the UK.

  39. StarOfTheSea47 says:

    Honestly, I find it a little disconcerting to read Catholics turning a blind eye to Israel’s atrocities and pointing the finger at Hamas. It sadly makes me wonder if the reaction would be the same if everyone in Gaza were Christian?

  40. Magash says:

    Two comments in answer to two different posters.
    1. “I certainly don’t defend Hamas, but the people of Gaza are the ones who are suffering as a result of the blockades. One evil doesn’t justify another evil.”
    One might ask why Israel had to blockade Gaza. Could it possibly be because when they allowed Gaza Palestinians access to Israel proper they used suicide bombers to kill innocent Israeli civilians, including children? After years of trying other solutions, including special passes and border searches Israeli’s decided they were tired of their citizens dying and closed the border to Gaza.
    2. “Here are maps of the area, from 1947 to 2005, that you might find interesting.”
    I would maintain if we’re going to use historical maps I say lets go here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Crusade#mediaviewer/File:Asia_minor_1140.jpg
    of course
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Israel_%28united_monarchy%29#mediaviewer/File:Kingdom_of_Israel_1020_map.svg
    Is also a very good map.
    Of course I prefer
    http://www.emersonkent.com/map_archive/religion_600.htm

  41. robtbrown says:

    Rachel K says:

    I just looked at the maps linked by Rotbrown and feel vindicated in my points. I was shocked by the extent of the land-grabbing that has happened. How was this negotiated ? It may well be true that Hamas has other, more sinister plans but the area is a disaster because of the injustice that has been done there to the original population.

    Fighting for that area goes back thousands of years.

    As far as I know, the first to propose repatriation of Jews to Palestine was Napoleon (died 1821), who saw it as a solution to the European “Jewish Problem”. Later, Theodore Herzl (1904) was the founder of Zionism, which wanted to establish a Jewish homeland–the movement of Jews to Palestine began in earnest. From 1920 to the 1948 partition of Palestine there were Jewish paramilitary units (cf Haganah) fighting against the British, who tried to control the region (cf British Mandate).

    At the end of WWII and the Holocaust the movement to Palestine from the diaspora accelerated (cf the movie and book Exodus). Then in 1948 the UN partitioned Palestine, established the state of Israel, and gave the Palestinians what is mostly the West Band, later to be governed by Jordan. Arab-Israeli war broke out almost immediately, with later Palestinian raids and Israeli reprisals in the 1950’s. With the 1967 Six Day War Israel started to occupy the West Bank.

    So both sides have a point. On the one hand, the Jews have a 3000 year old claim on the land, which the various persecutions over the years has motivated them to exercise. Further, the raids on Israel after the 1948 partition have produced aggressive actions by the Israelis.

    On the other hand, however, the Palestinians say that Jews were gone from Palestine for hundreds of years, and their claim on the land, UN partition or not, is ridiculous. They think they were treated unjustly, when the UN snapped their fingers and made the state of Palestine disappear.

  42. CrimsonCatholic says:

    Hamas broke the 72-hour cease fire by kidnapping an Israeli soldier. If you think that think that Hamas cares anything about the plight of the Palestinian people, you are mistaken.

    @RachaelK, you make good points but keep in mind that before WWII and during it, the Arabs and Palestinians massacred Jews that had been living in the Middle East, stole their land and burned their property on a regular basis(see 1929 Hebron massacre,Arab riots of 1936–1939, etc), even the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was in alliance with Hitler and Italy. Their demand that the British restrict immigration of Jews, led hundreds of thousands of Jews to be killed by the Nazis and the Soviets. Keep in mind they were not some innocent bystander that the UN selectively chose to divide up. The Jews have always been in Israel, and many of the places the the Middle East for thousands of years, they just never had a recognition in the government of the land they lived in. So when you say that there was an injustice done to the native population, that is not accurate because the Jews have always been a native people there, and there hasn’t been any other that have dealt with injustice as they have.

  43. robtbrown says:

    CrimsonCatholic says:

    Hamas broke the 72-hour cease fire by kidnapping an Israeli soldier. If you think that think that Hamas cares anything about the plight of the Palestinian people, you are mistaken.

    Who said anything about caring for the plight of Palestinians?

    These kind of situations give opportunities for those who just want to kill other people.

  44. StarOfTheSea47 says:

    @CrimsonCatholic,
    The Israeli soldier was on a mission to attack and kill. He was captured, not kidnapped.
    Yes, Arabs did kill Jews before the state of Israel was created. Jews also killed Arabs (look up the long lists of IRGUN massacres). Arab uprisings against Jews had a lot to do with the Zionist movement, which had been gaining momentum.

    @Magas
    “One might ask why Israel had to blockade Gaza. Could it possibly be because when they allowed Gaza Palestinians access to Israel proper they used suicide bombers to kill innocent Israeli civilians, including children?”
    Israel has committed countless atrocities against the Palestinians, too. I think it’s counterproductive to get into arguments about who is more to blame, or who did what first. Really, the only answer is the hardest one, the one that most depends on God’s mercy: for the Israeli mother, who lost her children in a Palestinian suicide attack on a bus, to forgive the killer For the Palestinian mother, who lost her children as her house was leveled to the ground by the IDF, to forgive the killer.

  45. robtbrown says:

    Crimson Catholic,

    There were always Jews in Palestine, but they were few. After Herzl the numbers increased. In 1800 there were about 7,000–2% of the total population.

    In 1900 there were more Christian Arabs in Palestine than there were Jews. In 1914 Jews were about 9% of the population. During the British Mandate the number jumped from about 16% to 33%.

  46. Mike says:

    SKAY says: Hamas shoots 20 anti war protesters . . .

    Present-day “peace and justice activists” would do well to consider the contrast between Servant of God Dorothy Day (a radical practitioner of the works of mercy who risked going to jail in virtual obscurity during World War II for peacefully opposing the State) and the “anti-war” protesters who have followed her in succeeding generations (many of whom will resort to any means possible, not always peaceful, to advocate the outsourcing of the works of mercy, and all other power over body and soul, to the State).

  47. StarOfTheSea47 says:

    @CrimsonCatholic
    I mean that when an IDF soldier enters into a separate territory (Gaza) on a mission to kill its inhabitants, in such an instance that soldier is captured. If, however, Hamas entered Israel on a mission to kill and grabbed an IDF soldier, that soldier would be kidnapped. I was pointing out the difference between kidnapping and capture.

  48. “If we are being 100% honest, Hamas does have a Humanitarian branch that distributes social services to Gazans.”
    Get that. Let’s think about it for a second.Your family is in dire need and a group brings you food stuffs to last a month plus a donation to help pay your bills. When they’re done assisting your family,they go next door with AK47’s and murder every single person in that household.Mother,Father,Children. Still humanitarian?

  49. “Honestly, I find it a little disconcerting to read Catholics turning a blind eye to Israel’s atrocities and pointing the finger at Hamas. It sadly makes me wonder if the reaction would be the same if everyone in Gaza were Christian?”
    This would be legit if Israel were committing atrocities.They go out of their way to avoid civilian causalities/collateral damage. Before they went after Hamas they sent in warnings,leaflets,phone calls etc. See the tunnels Hamas built? That was from materials that was supposed to go to the Palestinian people. They could have built shelters,hospitals,schools etc.
    The Israeli’s insist that new homes are built with ‘bunkers.’ Hamas uses what they’re given for warfare against Israel. Have you read the Hamas manifesto? Hamas IS a terrorist organization. Not unlike ISIS,Al-Qaeda,Hezbollah,Boko Haram and other jihadists. Unless we understand that we’re not going to understand the position Israel is in.
    At least they’re not afraid to tell you what Hamas really is and what they’re fighting for.Obama can’t even bring himself to say the word terrorist. If Israel gives up,let’s Hamas take Israel off the map-guess who’s next?