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Fr. Z:
I was wondering where did the (judging from the picture you posted earlier today) versus populum arrangement come from? Is this something that was recently introduced by the Anglicans or is it something that has existed for a long time?
The Mass was celebrated ad orientem, as the Oxford Oratory has the same topographical orientation as St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome.
Otherwise, it seems to me this was a fine example of what Pope Benedict must intend by “mutual enrichment”. More, please! Bring it on.
Now—having just endured once again the annual wreckage of the Christmas-Epiphany season in the new calendar—if only someone can find a way to “mutually enrich” the Novus Ordo calendar. ( See What Ever Happened to Epiphanytide? at The New Theological Movement.)
I don’t think one should flout the GIRM, even in a traditionalist direction, with silent canon and omitting the memorial acclamation and splitting the Sanctus. Lobbying for change is one thing, but I don’t see how one can with integrity denounce liberal liturgical abuses if one picks and chooses what rubrics to follow. Whatever happened to “say the black, do the red”?
Are priests of the ordinariate allowed to continue to use the liturgy and customs they used in the CofE?
\\we were spared those horrid ‘Acclamations’ after the Consecration. \\
1. Singing the Benedictus after the Words of Institution (a practice forbidden by Pius X, btw), is itself an acclamation.
2. Without an indult, would not be using ANY part of the ICEL before its official introduction be an liturgical abuse?
‘1. Singing the Benedictus after the Words of Institution (a practice forbidden by Pius X, btw), is itself an acclamation.’
I thought this was only the case when the Gregorian settings were/are used ?
Whenever the mike goes out in a modern carpeted church, it’s a silent canon. So obviously, it can’t possibly be an abuse to do it on purpose. :) If the choir’s singing away and the priest just doesn’t talk loud, it’s also a silent canon for all intents and purposes, even if the priest talks in a clear voice. (I’ve heard this done, sometimes inadvertently when the choir’s piece ran too long for the priest’s liking.)
The only liturgical abuse would be if the choir sang along or the organist accompanied the priest during the Eucharistic Prayer. Singing an entire other part of the Mass that you’re not done with yet — that is okey-dokey, as far as I can tell.