I really enjoy notes like this, with my emphasis:
I read with much amusement your “rant” on Society Confessions. Ever hear of “supplied jurisdiction?”
With all due respect you may want to consider re-studying your Cannon Law.
Sorry to be such a spoil sport!
Sorry to be such a psilological doryphore, but if you are going to criticize my take on the Church’s clearly written law, you could at least demonstrate that you have standing to do so by spelling “Canon” Law correctly.
May I suggest that you buy a Cannon 915 coffee mug and call it a day?
Even if you use it for pencils, rather than for Mystic Monk Coffee, it will at least remind you how to spell “canon”.
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Love it! hehee On the other hand, a picture of a cannon on your Canon 915 coffee mug may be appropriate if pointed at the offending party. Just a thought.
And to think I always thought that the Cannon Law was “Don’t stand in front of the cannon!”
Hmm, I noticed you used red to emphasize rather than bold. This wouldn’t have anything to do with red being used for spell check on misspelled words? I know when I’m correcting grammar, I always use my green grammar pen.
@Fr. Augustine: Good one!
I think “cannon law” has the making of a good coffee cup. I’ve looked for a good picture to go with it — specifically, something from the Battle of Lepanto or the Battle of Vienna. No real luck so far finding a clear picture that involves cannons. Someone else want to give it a try?
This_totally_made_my_day. ROFL!
If you ever stop to think about it, our religion is quite violent. I mean, we’ve got cannons, missals, berettas…..scary stuff!
Here is one online source for cannon images, specifically 18th century and largely naval (only a few thousand to choose from). Hope that helps.
Pax et bonum,
Keith Töpfer
LCDR, USN [ret.]
nice seeing some humor again in these comments. good to smile.
Well, the psilology is present for sure. I am less sure that questioning such a big spelling error is doryphorous.
@GirlCanCant
If you ever stop to think about it, our religion is quite violent. I mean, we’ve got cannons, missals, berettas…..scary stuff!
You probably meant “missiles”? Or perhaps you meant those recently-printed missals (since the 1960’s) with modern “arts” are scary? To me, the latter is actually scarier than the former. :)
Alas, this cannon is not available for Fr. Z’s wishlist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi4g_U0hoOg&feature=related
Egads.
He probably has a Cannon copier too.
And a Cannon Camera.
. . . I like the Chrome spell checks my comments, but it’s not smart enough to know the difference between “canon” and “cannon.”
Speaking of canon law, Father Marcel Guarnizo (subject of another post of which the comment function is broken) really needs to get a canon lawyer. I doubt that any canonist worth two cents would permit him to publish a statement like that.
I don’t really know who is right in that situation, but the first thing a person is advised in such a matter is to say nothing to anyone.
@frjim4321
I’m not sure whether canon lawyers give the same kind of advice as civil lawyers do, but I totally agree with your last sentence.
I look forward to hearing Dr. Peters’ reaction to Fr. Guarnizo’s statement.
@NoTambourines
Very, very cool. Great choice of music, too.
It’s probably a good thing you can’t get one of those for Fr. Z. If he’s anything like me — and in this, at least, I think he is — he would run the risk of a lot of damage in his study, not to mention possible injury.
I think the writer means Dyan Cannon; I think she wrote all of their rules after starring in “Heaven Can Wait”. But that was before James Mason was rejected in favor of Richard Williamson, so it’s wrong in any event.
Maybe Freddie “Boom Boom” Cannon as in “Way Down Yonder in New Orleans” and “Palisades Park”. Boy, now I am really showing my age!
frjim4321 says,
Speaking of canon law, Father Marcel Guarnizo (subject of another post of which the comment function is broken) really needs to get a canon lawyer. I doubt that any canonist worth two cents would permit him to publish a statement like that.
Good advice. And it should have probably been followed by the DC Chancery, that seems to have made a decision and public statement without having first investigating the events.
Good advice. And it should have probably been followed by the DC Chancery, that seems to have made a decision and public statement without having first investigating the events.
Indeed.
Dr Peters is no doubt very knowledgeable about his field, but he is very wrong in this case, not necessarily as a matter of law (I don’t presume to judge him in that field), but as a matter of religion.
This incident exemplifies everything that is wrong with the Church these days. On the one hand, “liberal” priests who have lost the Catholic faith (if they ever had it) are pretty much given carte blanche. They defy their bishops and the bishops are afraid to touch them. Faithful, orthodox priests like Fr. Guarnizo, on the other hand, are tossed under the bus — no more than that — absolutely destroyed by their own bishops when they do something that offends the secular atheistic society we live in.
I’m not an SSPX supporter, but Bishop Fellay is absolutely right when he says that, humanly speaking, the Church is lost. It will take a miracle to restore the Church, and we must believe that the miracle will happen, but humanly speaking, it’s too late.
Father, my recommendation for your FrZ merchandise was “CANON 915: When in Doubt, Pass Him Out”
Thankfully, I dpn’t think God judges us upon the merits of our tyyping.
Thanks, oldcanon2257. I did mean “missiles” and I realized my mistake as soon as I hit “post”.
You’re right, though, the artwork in the newer missals is quite scary.
Cannon Law would thus be an Ordnance Ordinance?
Thank you for adding to my lexicon, Reverend Father. The great Dr. Maturin would approve! [Which it’s my pleasure.]
frjim,
We hear that all the time, that folks being accused should be quiet. But, lately, I’ve come around to the opposite opinion. If the “victim” in this case went public, then the accused needs to go public, too. I say let’s get all the information out there for the general public to see. Then, we’ll be able to easily figure out who’s lying, who’s telling the truth, and who’s playing politics and being unjust. Jesus said not to hide our light under a bushel basket. We should bring the light of truth to the hilltops where everyone can see it! :)
Sarcasm and insults lose their zing when they are misspelled, don’t they?? :)
Regarding Fr. Marcel, prudent or not, he does give an excellent point regarding giving scandal and refusal of the Eucharist, outside of Canon 915- if someone was drunk or high, or admitted being remarried without an annulment right before Mass, he would be scandalous in giving them Communion. I don’t see why, when this woman clearly admitted her mortal sin right before Holy Mass without repentance, that this is being criticized. It is one thing to receive in mortal sin without the priest’s knowledge, but this seems to me to be cut and dried… but I admittantly am no expert.
Everyone: Keep in mind that this whole entry has nothing to do with poor Fr. Guarnizo and his circumstances, unless of course he were to join the SSPX. At that point he would have no faculties to hear confessions except in cases of danger of death.
Oh, my, the many ‘punny’ things that can happen when words are misspelled!
I love it! Thanks for the laugh, Father Z!
@ No Tambourines: That ‘mini-cannon’ is a riot! I’ll have to watch the video you provided.
@ brotherfee: Hey, I remember Freddie ‘Boom Boom’ Cannon! Man, that makes me feel old, too!
I went on the video of the ‘mini-cannon’; had all I could do to keep from bursting out laughing here in the library.
Using ‘Carmina Burana’ as background music was a ‘blast’!
[yeah, I know-bad pun]
I also applaud Fr. Marcel for his direct letter describing the events that day. My reaction was bravo Fr. Marcel, you are the man, for standing up for your beliefs. This description, however, is the good Father’s remembrance of what happened, other people may have a different perception.
I work as a nurse and I learned early on that the perception of my care by the patient/family is a top priority. In other words, if I am not perceived as a caring nurse then the patient/family will have less trust in me despite how much medical knowledge I possess. I would imagine that the same perception of care is important in the priest business too, as between the shepherd and his flock.
Not merely pedantic, Rev. Zuhldsorf’s showboating repartee is disparaging, non-responsive, prideful, not at all Christ-like, not evidence of grace, not remotely priestly. It is not empty talk or trivial to discuss the matter of supplied jurisdiction, but a serious concern for many practicing Catholics. In these days of diabolical disorientation, who can be surprised that 32 of Rev. Zuhlsdorf’s devotees have cheered his proud tongue and failed to notice that his interlocutor deserved a charitable, substantive, and priestly response?
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