At NLM Shawn Tribe has offered a proposal for an Ordinary Form Roman Missal with the new, corrected translation in a format much like the usual editions of the older Missale Romanum. He has some sample pages.
If an edition of the new translation were offered like this, I would recommend it and no other.
Samples of what he has come up with. You can see more there.
And …
I am reading through the new “white paper” (I won’t dignify it with “document”) from the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace and trying to keep my blood pressure down.
I have a few things to digest yet, and it takes me a while, since this isn’t exactly my bailiwick. However, I can say this: thanks be to God this “white paper” doesn’t form part of the Holy Father’s Ordinary Magisterium.
Every once in a while the Holy See’s smaller offices, Pontifical Councils and so forth, have to put out a paper to justify their budgets and remind everyone that they take up valuable space. These documents, which do not form part of the Holy Father’s Magisterium, can deal with critical issues like how to be a safe driver. The dicasteries keep busy by hosting seminars on how to play sport and so forth.
Some of my favorite points in the new “white paper” include the suggestion that there should be global monetary management and a “central world bank” to regulate it and that the United Nations should be involved. National banks have, after all, done such a good job that we should now make the effort transnational! And is this the same UN that had nations such as Saudi Arabia and, till recently, Libya on the their human rights commission? Wasn’t there a UN financial corruption investigation still going on? Is this the same UN that is pushing contraception pretty much in every poor country on earth? Was that a different UN?
Another high point in the new “white paper”: “These measures ought to be conceived of as some of the first steps in view of a public Authority with universal jurisdiction; as a first stage in a longer effort by the global community to steer its institutions towards achieving the common good.”
Uh huh.
In the presentation of the “white paper” during the Press Conference, Prof. Leonardo Becchetti (whom I assume was the writer) actually references Dodd-Frank as a starting point.
The MSM is gonna love this “white paper”. I can hear the intelligent, well-informed commentary about the Church even now. It’ll be along the lines of “The Pope says there should be a single world currency controlled by UN” and “Financial advice from people who have paid how many billion in settlements for abuse of children?”
If they can give us the “10 commandments for driving”, perhaps more helpful for our near future would have been pointers on, just off the top of my head, how to make a useful bug-out-bag, how to say the rosary with your family, how to barter things with real value, how to form small communities and help each other when the shelves in stores have been stripped bare, good programs for learning Chinese and Arabic, how to make hiding places for priests when the newly established domestic security forces start hunting them down, how serious liturgical abuses really are mortal sins, how to make a perfect act of contrition when dying without a priest during a global pandemic, what sort of silver and gold will be useful when our fake money no longer has redeemable value.
But, no, we get fantasies about the UN regulating a global monetary supply.
I’m being facetious, of course. The global economy is perfect, there are no super-bugs on a cyclical ascent, and we all love the direction governments are taking when it comes to religious liberty. Of course its a great idea for the Holy See’s office on Justice and Peace to further the cause of one world government.
Seriously, now that my blood pressure is dropping and my little raving nutty is over, I look forward to some good analysis of this “white paper” from the smart people at Acton Institute who might actually understand what the Holy See is proposing. From one conversation I had, I have gleaned that some of the analysis in the “white paper” of the present situation is okay, but the proposals are really bad.
UPDATE:
Be sure to read this about one of the people who wrote the “white paper”.
From a reader:
Leo XIII condemned Anglican orders and succession as invalid since 1552. Even after re-admitting the prayers regarding the “work and office of a priest” in the ordination 100 years later, the line had become extinct so it was pointless.
I’ve heard traditionalists mention Leo’s objections with regards to the 1968 Novus Ordo rite of Holy Orders. Is there really any comparison between the lack of sacrifice/priesthood in the two? I am deeply worried about validity, and my nerves are shaken by recent developments in the Church…
It is not proper for a new convert to be so shaken. Any refutations or sources would be appreciated.
One of the best books I have seen on the topic was written by Michael Davies (whose grave I lately visited in England) called The Order of Melchisedech. It could be hard to find now, but if you really want to dig into the issue, this could be helpful.
In a nutshell, Mr Davies, if memory serves, concludes that the ordinal implemented by Paul VI validly ordained men, but that it was vague enough that, were the ordaining bishop to have a poor formation and theology – which he concluded would be increasingly the case – the rite of ordination would be questionable. Like many other things associated with Vatican II the rites were open to a good interpretation or a fuzzy interpretation.
That said, people should know that in 1990 John Paul II issued a revision of Paul VI’s ordinal. For the ordination to the priesthood at least he made explicit precisely what the man was being ordained to do. As an aside, I was ordained – with the Latin text entirely – using that new book to the diaconate (by Card. Mayer) and the priesthood (by John Paul II).
The new ordinal came out in 1990. It took years for ICEL to submit a translation. That translation was so bad that in 1997 the Congregation for Divine Worship issued in response a letter of a harshness that I had never seen before from any dicastery of the Holy See. I often wonder if it wasn’t that bad translation which served as the old incarnation of ICEL’s Waterloo.
There is a 2003 translation of the 1990 De Ordinationibus, which is the book actually now in force. It should have the corrections to the rite implemented by Bl. John Paul II.
UPDATE:
Thanks to Fr. SR of TX for photos of the pages of the 2003 book! Very information and helpful. It would be nice to compare the text to the Latin original, especially for the interrogation section of ordinands to the priesthood.
From a reader:
This evening during Mass a man I casually know came up to me and asked me to fill-in for a no-show as an extraordinary minister of the Precious Blood. I am not and have never been an EME. I told him so. He said that’s okay. I asked him, “Is that allowed?” He nodded yes. I agreed.
First, I believe that diocesan bishops are the proper authority for permitting lay people to act as Extraordinary Ministers. Bishops can establish the conditions under which priests can, in case of real necessity, ask someone to help ad hoc, for this or that occasion. In that case, there is even a blessing for the person to function ad hoc.
If I am correct, some diocesan bishops have not allowed for such ad hoc appointments. We should get a few priests involved in this discussion.
However, in the case above, it was neither the diocesan bishop nor the parish priest who made the request. It seems to me that that was not correctly handled. A better solution would have been simply to function with a smaller number of Extraordinary Ministers (or none).
What all this reflects, to my mind, is a lack of clarity not just about the regulations governing liturgy and sacraments, but more fundamentally the difference between lay and clerical roles.
Please share some good news with the readership. And if there was some good point from the Sunday sermon you heard, let us know!
For my part, I have two points.
First, I received some nice – early but nice – greetings for my upcoming birthday.
Second, I wrapped my my 11 years long weekly column for The Wanderer, a column entitled What Does The Prayer Really Say? I sent my last column in last Thursday. What a weird feeling. After a break I might take up another. In the meantime, I will continue with The Catholic Herald in the UK.
From a reader:
My friend’s ordination is coming up in a number of months, and I’d like to get him something meaningful and useful. I’m a little short on money, so I have to start planning and saving now.
He’s traditionally-minded (fully fluent in Latin too) and believes in the Sacrament of Confession. He speaks of spending a lot of time hearing confessions once he’s ordained, so I figured a beautiful confessional stole would be a good idea. (Personally, I think those long, wide modern purple stoles to be pretty hideous and they remind me of feel-good reconciliation rooms with stuffed lambs, etc which really isn’t my friend’s style.)
I found some really nice hand-made silk and gold embroidered reversible stoles (purple and white) made by some sisters some place that are within my price range, but I’m just wondering how practical the white side is. I know my confessor’s stole is reversible, but I only see him wearing the purple side. What’s the white side used for?
I am glad that this one you are talking about intends to hear confessions.
The reversible stole you are talking about is really not so much for the confessional as it is for rites which require a change of stole. The perfect example of this is the older form of baptism, using the older Rituale Romanum.
In the traditional form of baptism of children, for example, after the priest anoints with the Oil of Catechumens and as the rite moves from outside the baptistry to the inside, he changes his stole from purple to white.
If this priest is traditionally-minded, I think that would be a nice gift.
Last year I decided to make, for the first time, my own Christmas Pudding. I got a late start on it. It was delicious.
This year I am going to pay attention to Stir Up Sunday.
20 November is Stir Up Sunday if I am not mistaken, the 23rd and Last Sunday after Pentecost.
Your plans?
The title of this post comes from the blog The Recovering Dissident Catholic. Mordant commentary to be sure. Dead on.
My emphases and comments.
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I find it interesting that supposed Catholic parishes charge up to 3 figures for yoga, enneagram, tai-chi, labyrinth, channeling, reiki and other New Age non-Catholic (and in my opinion and in the opinion of other like,oh ,the USCCB) “classes” held on parish grounds or in the Church. I once attended yoga classes in the main church itself. It was a church with moving chairs so they moved them and set up the mats. I’m not kidding.
Yet Bible studies, RCIA, marriage prep are free or low cost – read they charge less than the fees collected by the New Age “experts”.
Don’t forget Confession and Mass don’t cost you any money except may cost your mortal soul – priceless
I don’t get why these New Age practitioners are making money in our parishes teaching stuff that in my personal experience flirts with powers and forces that should be left alone and encourages people to believe they need these “fillers” because Catholicism is lacking. [NB….] Or, it cements the belief of those who think Catholicism is lacking by telling them they are right. [Bullseye.] I maintain that anyone, and I used to be one, who thinks Catholicism is lacking really has not even begun to scratch the surface of the treasury of the Faith.
Let me be even more frank: Why are we letting heretics teach this crap in our churches? Why not just hand Satan the keys and walk away?
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Well done.
I don’t think there is any harm to learning how to stretch and strengthen through moves or stances of yoga or tai-chi so long as nothing of the religion/world view is given any “energy”. (Sorry… I had to.) The enneagram and labyrinth and reiki stuff is just silly, though that reiki thing is on the edge from what I know about it (which admittedly isn’t much). Channeling? If you go anywhere near that you are out of your ever-living mind.
Most people who do this rubbish in their churches are not actually trying to give Satan a toe-hold. But when these activities are permitted in church you can bet the pastor’s grasp of the Catholic thing is pretty thin.
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on Thoughts about the collision of the Holy See and the SSPX. Wherein Fr. Z rants.: “Following up EAW’s comment about Bishop Robertus Gerardus Leonia Maria Mutsaerts, I found a Dutch Katholieke Nieuwsblad article online, dated…”
on Thoughts about the collision of the Holy See and the SSPX. Wherein Fr. Z rants.: “While past statements by the SSPX clearly rejected Feeneyism, it appears that rejection of that position may no longer be…”
on Thoughts about the collision of the Holy See and the SSPX. Wherein Fr. Z rants.: “I think I understand your thoughts better now, father. I have to say I remain stunned by the development of…”
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