ASK FATHER: Lay people using the Rituale Romanum to bless things

UPDATE:

People don’t always read carefully before they react.

Let me be clear.  It is okay – it is good – for parents to bless their children by tracing the sign of the Cross on their foreheads.

Stop sending me questions about that. Read what is posted, below.

It is NOT okay for lay people to attempt to exorcise things.  It is NOT okay for lay people to attempt to bless in the manner of a priest, that is by making the sign of the Cross over someone in the usual way that priests do.

___ Original Published on: Aug 3, 2017

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

In a fairly popular book about celebrating the liturgical year at home, The Year and Our Children, the author recommends purchasing “the Ritual, that slim black book the priest carries about when he gives the blessings.” She goes on to explain how her family “blessed” their own herbs. Can you tell me if laypersons can bless objects and if so, under what conditions? Thank you!

I don’t know that book.  You haven’t quoted any of the book, so – since your planet’s yellow star doesn’t give my the psychic power I would need to know what it says – I don’t know what it says.  However, my first reaction is…

NO!

Lay people should not do anything like that, especially involving making the sign of the Cross over anything, as if they were ordained priests.

NO! I say, and again I say NO!

Take things to the priest to bless.

Ask Father to come to bless things.

This is not DIY, people.

If you are not a priest, don’t do these things.  Don’t use the Rituale for anything, especially if there is something to do with exorcisms.   You do NOT want to get into it with the Enemy when you don’t have the grace of ordained priesthood and the authority and power that comes with it.

There is no reason why lay people can’t ask God to bless things.  However, it should not be done with accompanying gestures of blessing, etc.

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Wherein Michael Sean Winters responded to Fr. Z’s gift of the Combat Rosary

The other day I posted about sending a Combat Rosary to Fishwrap‘s Michael Sean Winters, who had had a little nutty about “militaristic” imagery.  I wondered whether or not MSW would acknowledge receipt.

Today, I see that he responded!  HERE

Lastly, Fr. John Zuhlsdorf has been speculating about how I would respond to his gift of a “combat rosary” to me. It arrived Tuesday. I do not have Father’s mailing address so I shall communicate to him here:

Dear Fr. Zuhlsdorf,

Thank you for the gift of a rosary. I pray the rosary using one my dear beloved grandmother of happy memory gave me, and she was combative enough for the three of us.

Kind regards,
Michael Sean Winters

First, I’m glad that he received it.  I’m delighted that uses one.  Coincidentally, I had written: “I hope Winters decides to use the Rosary… or dig out the old chaplet that perhaps his, I dunno, grandmother had.  So long as he uses one.”

So, who was right in the poll?  It appears that the 3%!  “Yes, publicly, with a kind note of thanks.”

Will MSW respond to or acknowledge Fr. Z's gift of a Combat Rosary?

  • No. (57%, 751 Votes)
  • Yes, publicly, with a snarky comment. (27%, 357 Votes)
  • Yes, privately, with a terse acknowledgement. (8%, 100 Votes)
  • Yes, privately, with a kind note of thanks. (6%, 82 Votes)
  • Yes, publicly, with a kind note of thanks. (3%, 39 Votes)

Total Voters: 1,329

Frankly, I find his response to be not only kind, but charming.  As a matter of fact, it inclines me to consider not picking on him any more…

Nahhh.

Finally, I thought I had included my return address.  No matter.  FWIW, MSW: My return address is always on the sidebar.  Feel free to drop a Christmas card and I’ll return the favor.

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Sign of Peace as ratification of what has gone before or as reconciliation before Communion?

paxToday my friend Fr. John Hunwicke has a stunner of a post in which he detonates and explodes the present day commonly chaotic infra dignitatem group-grope “Sign of Peace” during Holy Mass.

First, he writes of period during which the Our Father was introduced in to liturgical worship.  Previously, it had not been considered liturgical prayer.  However, after it’s introduction in liturgical worship, it was followed by a kind of “signing off” on what had preceded, a “signaculum orationis“.

Father writes:

It seems highly likely that what happened is this. When the Our Father was introduced into the Mass, it brought with it its concluding signaculum, the Kiss of Peace. Thus the Pax in the Liturgy is not, in itself, a reconciliatory preparation for Communion, but a ‘signing off’ from the Our Father and the Eucharistic Prayer. We find this situation reflected in the Letter of Pope S Innocent I to the Bishop of Gubbio in 416 (PL 56 515). Troublemakers [never lacking in any epoch] in Gubbio had been saying that it was better to follow the custom of another Church as to the position of the Peace rather than that of Rome; [plus ça change] the Pope responds ‘ the Pax has to be done after all the things which I’m not allowed to mention to show that the people have given their consent to everything which is done in the mysteries and celebrated in Church, and to demonstrate that they are finished by the signaculum of the concluding Pax‘. The fact that he employs the very term signaculum which had been used by Tertullian suggests that we are dealing with conventional usage widespread enough to be common to Rome and North Africa and over a period of at least two centuries.

He also explores the historical question of fast days and the exchange of the Pax, and he wraps up with lots of questions.  In conclusion, however, he adds:

I never cease to be surprised at what I find whenever I delve back into the history of the venerable and wonderful Roman Rite.

Do I hear an “Amen!”?

Fr. Z kudos to Fr. H.  I’ve compressed this a great deal.  You should go over there and read the whole fascinating thing.

That said, one might use Father’s post as part of a series to catechize a parish about a proper way to give the sign of peace.

Ratification of what has gone before or reconciliation before Communion. Of course the one does not automatically exclude the other.

 

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Knights of Columbus change Fourth Degree uniforms

I’m am irritated with the Knights of Columbus for a couple reasons.

The KCs are changing their Fourth Degree uniform.

I am not heavily invested in the KCs’ Fourth Degree uniform, mind you.  But consider the implications.

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Here is another reason via the newspaper of the Diocese of Phoenix:

Knights of Columbus change Fourth Degree uniforms

The Knights of Columbus, long associated with swords, capes and chapeaus, will be going through a significant uniform change.

The traditional regalia worn by the Knights’ Fourth Degree members will be replaced, announced Supreme Knight Carl A. Anderson during the Knights of Columbus 135th Supreme Convention being held in St. Louis Aug. 1. The address was available via livestream on EWTN.

Throughout the years, the regalia of the Fourth Degree, known as the patriotic degree, has gone through changes, Anderson said. When the Fourth Degree was first established, the uniform included white ties, top hats and tails.

In place of a tuxedo with a black bow tie, members will be wearing a blue blazer, an official Knights of Columbus tie and a beret, all with the Fourth Degree emblem on them, along with a white shirt and dark gray slacks. There was no mention as to whether the swords would remain a part of the uniform.  [What do you want to bet they won’t now be using AR-15s.]

“The Board of Directors has decided that the time is right for a modernization of the Fourth Degree Uniform,” Anderson said. “On a limited basis, Assemblies may choose to continue using the traditional cape and chapeau for Color Corps at public events and Honor Guards in Liturgical Processions. However the preferred dress for the Fourth Degree, including Color Corps and Honor Guards, is the new Uniform of jacket and beret.”

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That will eliminate honor guards, I think.

I think the Councils should ignore this.

Also, did you know that there is a a growing group of traditional Councils?

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Eating: a retrospective

I spotted this online:

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Lefeverist smuggling tunnel discovered by Swiss Guards.

From the sometimes amusing Eye Of The Tiber:

The largest cross-boarder Lefeverist smuggling tunnel to date was discovered in a midnight raid earlier today by Swiss Guards.  The smugglers fled, abandoning contraband with a street value of over 3 million euros.

Smuggled goods found included pirated copies of “Teach Yourself Latin” software, DVD’s of “The Cardinal,” as well as thousands of copies of Familiaris Consortio and the Decrees of the Council of Trent.
Lead detective on the case Giovanni Verde told EOTT this morning that all of the items seized were street ready.

“From here they would have gone out and been available in the Vatican colleges and back rooms by sunrise,” noting that the tunnel terminated in a small subterranean chapel under one of the Vatican buildings.  “See how the chapel is set up ad orientem?  This is a site of a clandestine Tridentine Mass.

Rumors have been circulating for years that undocumented Lefeverists were responsible for the countless tunnels undermining the Vatican since the early 1970’s.  According to Verde, his goal is not simply taking down the powerful Lefeverist “cartel,” but also “the numerous groups inside the Vatican supporting them.”

Verde told reporters that he has been tracking a “shadowy figure” who is considered the true leader of the cartel.

We only know him as “Denzinger,” but he is highly respected in some circles, and his writings are quoted like the Bible. It’s not a secret in the Vatican that the recently terminated the head of the CDF, Gerhard Cardinal Muller, was an admirer of Dezinger.

“It was clear for a number of years that the Cardinal had been Denzinger’s man inside the halls of the Vatican, and now we finally have hard evidence of a conspiracy. Denzinger’s influence over the CDF and the Church will finally be broken.”

What is this “DENZINGER” of which they speak?

US HERE – UK HERE





Every priest, seminarian, student, serious defender of the Faith must have this.

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YOUR URGENT PRAYER REQUESTS

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Registered or not, will you in your charity please take a moment look at the requests and to pray for the people about whom you read?

Continued from THESE.

I get many requests by email asking for prayers. Many requests are heart-achingly grave and urgent.

As long as my blog reaches so many readers in so many places, let’s give each other a hand. We should support each other in works of mercy.

If you have some prayer requests, feel free to post them below.

You have to be registered here to be able to post.

I still have two pressings personal petitions.  No, I actually have THREE now.  I can’t get a break, it seems.  Ut Deus….

ALSO…

During this 100th year commemoration of the apparitions of Our Lady of Fatima, remember the central message Our Lady gave to the Church and to the world: penance and reparation for sins and for the conversion of sinners.  

Off your sufferings in reparation for sins and for the conversion of sinners.

 

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The Cassock

cassockUse of the cassock.

In England… and in Wales?… it was illegal to wear the cassock in public.  Perhaps it still is.  I believe there is a tale told that Queen Elizabeth paid the fine for John Paul II.  Se non è vero….

In these USA, the Council of Baltimore, held in a time of real persecution of Catholics, it was determined that in public priests would wear the more secular frock coat, rather than the cassock.  That policy, which shaped the old priests who shaped me, lingers in my practice.  I don’t often go out in public in the cassock, but my resistance is … futile.

However, the erosion of our Catholic identity, and the erosion of priestly identity – directly related to each other – have led inexorably to a lack of comprehension of what a priest is, how to recognize one, etc.  And priests haven’t made that easy.

Now I read a story about a group of seminarians in clerical dress were denied entry to a pub in Cardiff, because the innkeeper thought they were in “fancy” dress or they were there for a “stag do”.

From The Telegraph:

Father Michael Doyle said the seven went to the pub in Quay Street to celebrate the ordination of Father Peter McLaren at Cardiff Metropolitan Cathedral of St David near Queen Street. He said it was a double celebration because Fr McLaren was the second to be ordained to the priesthood in a week.

He added that the City Arms was a favourite of his colleagues including the Archbishop of Cardiff, George Stack.

Fr Doyle said: “They arrived at the City Arms and they were dressed wearing the clerical collar. “The doorman basically said something along the lines of, ‘sorry gents, we have a policy of no fancy dress and no stag dos’.”

The doorman was good-natured but firm, and the students had started to leave when they were approached by the bar manager. “He basically said, ‘you’re real, aren’t you?’,” said Fr Doyle.

“He invited them back in and when they walked back in the entire pub burst into a round of applause, and they had a free round off the City Arms.

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The Directory for Priests identity – in the first place – the cassock as the proper dress of the priest and, oh yes… after that other sorts of garb.

I don’t trust priests who speak badly of the cassock.

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Translating ICEL

One of you alert readers sent this…

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Advice from a saint, praise for a priest, explanation for a practice

13_02_17_alphonsusAccording to the Novus Ordo calendar, today is the Feast of St. Alphonsus Liguori.  In the traditional calendar it falls tomorrow.  He is a Doctor of the Church, whose writings set the Church’s approach to moral theology on a healthy course enduring to this day among the faithful.  I once had the astounding, intimidating privilege of holding in my hands his own manuscript of his Moral Theology, replete with glued in pages and scraps of notes and corrections.  Moreover, his Stations of the Cross, his version is what I will always hear for that devotion, his Manual for Confessors strongly shaped my approach to the sacrament, his Novena Prayer to Our Lady of Perpetual Help formed my earliest sense of truly pious Catholics.

Not long ago I posted about how St. Alphonsus bilocated so he could assist Pope Clement XIV at his death. HERE

Once again, my friend His Hermeneuticalness has posted something helpful today. It is great to have him back in the saddle again and posting frequently.  Fr. Finigan points out something that the saint to preachers.

The “Instructions to Preachers” at the beginning of the book is still of value for priests and can unsettle us today.

It were well that the preacher should sometimes exhort the audience to relate to others what they have heard in the sermon; as by this means it may be made useful even to those who have not heard it.

 If we are handing on the teaching of Christ and His Church, we ought to not to be embarrassed to ask others to pass it on. If we are embarrassed, is that because it is ourselves we are preaching?

Did you get that?  Relate to others what you heard in sermons, because it could be useful to them.

Each week I make a post here called “Your Sunday Sermon Notes”, in which I invite you to post a good point from the sermon you heard.

Why?  Because a) I hope that you will pay close attention and look even for good points in an otherwise humdrum homily and b) because many of the readers out there hardly ever hear a good homily.

 

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