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Tag Archives: ICEL
“O God, you are so big!” Maronite English liturgical translations: Devastation!
For decades we Latin Church Catholics in the English speaking world suffered from hideous liturgical translations, prepared by ICEL. Remember what they were like? Here is the quintessential, typical, emblematic, prototypical, illustrative, archetypal, representative Obsolete ICEL prayer: O God, you are … Continue reading
Card. George on liturgical translation
At Amerika there is an interview with Francis Card. George, the out-going Archbishop of Chicago. Among the various questions put to him, this one, with the answer caught my special attention. My emphases and comments: You were prominent in … Continue reading
Posted in Fr. Z KUDOS, Liturgy Science Theatre 3000, Our Catholic Identity, WDTPRS
Tagged Card. George, ICEL, justice, religion, SUMMORUM PONTIFICUM, translation
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More on Brentwood Butler and revolt against the ICEL translation
A little while ago, a priest of the Diocese of Brentwood (UK), Fr. Michael Butler – director of the diocesan commission for liturgy, sent a letter to the priests of that diocese, and to the über-liberal, dissident weekly publication The … Continue reading
Posted in Fr. Z KUDOS, Liberals, Liturgy Science Theatre 3000, Mail from priests, The Drill
Tagged D. Brentwood, dissent, Fr Michael J. Butler, Fr. Hunwicke, ICEL, language, Latin, liberals, liturgy, translation
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Priest (D. Brentwood, UK) claims we can use obsolete English translation of Missal. FAIL.
UPDATE: HERE Readers of Protect the Pope have informed us that Bishop Thomas McMahon has acted decisively against Fr Butler’s letter advocating that they abandon the revised Roman Missal by writing to the priests of Brentwood diocese to refute his arguments … Continue reading
ICEL: 50th anniversary – Two Cheers for ICEL!
Two cheers for ICEL! I was sent this by an ICEL insider: ICEL was founded in St Peter’s Basilica fifty years ago today. The occasion will be marked by a Solemn Mass at the Altar of the Chair at 5pm, … Continue reading
Posted in Events, Liturgy Science Theatre 3000, Our Catholic Identity, The future and our choices
Tagged ICEL, Latin, SC 36, SC 54, vernacular
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Liberal survey of priests on new translation is inaccurate
A little while ago, some people who hate on the new translation of the Roman Missal had a little survey of priests and their reception of the translation. It may not come as a huge surprise that the survey found … Continue reading
A priest reacts to priests reacting to the new translation
Over at the Deacon’s Bench, Rev. Mr. Kandra has a great post. A priest wrote to Dcn. Kandra as a reaction to the whiny survey of priests about the new translation. My emphases and comments: After reading this latest post on how … Continue reading
Lest We Forget: Of surveys, liturgical translations and whining
It has been brought to my attention that there is a survey about how priests in these USA are accepting – or not – the new, corrected ICEL translation of the Roman Missal. STILL? Are they still grizzling on about … Continue reading
ACTION ITEM! POLL ALERT – The Tablet about the new tranzleshun
UPDATE 7 Dec: The Tablistas finally found the correct texts for their poll about the new translation. Go back and give it another try! NB: As a sweetener, there is a question about preference for the Ordinary or Extraordinary Forms. … Continue reading
Posted in Liberals, Liturgy Science Theatre 3000, POLLS
Tagged ICEL, New Translation, poll
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Bad news for the critics of the new ICEL translation. No surprise for the rest of us.
This Saturday/Sunday is the liturgical 1st Anniversary of the implementation of the new, corrected ICEL translation in the USA. I have been exchanging emails today about the findings of Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate (CARA) at Georgetown University concerning … Continue reading
Bp. Trautman retires, successor appointed to Diocese of Erie
WDTPRS’s worthy opponent, the Most Rev. Donald W. Trautman, Bishop of Erie has now officially stepped aside as the shepherd of that portion of the People of God. I extend to His Excellency Bishop Trautman prayerful best wishes for an … Continue reading
Revision of English “Liturgy of the Hours” to begin
I noticed this in the newsletter of the USCCB’s Committee for Divine Worship: Liturgy of the Hours Among the many liturgical books affected by the implementation of the Roman Missal, Third Edition, none has generated more questions or interest than … Continue reading
Posted in Liturgy Science Theatre 3000
Tagged ICEL, Liturgiam authenticam, liturgy, Liturgy of the Hours, prayer, translation, USCCB, worship
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QUAERITUR: ad libbing during Masses with children
From a priest: I am an associate pastor and am charged with celebrating Masses in our elementary schools. For these Masses, the pastor has taken the liberty to modify the prayers (collect, prayer over the offerings, post communion prayer) and … Continue reading
This Lent brings a new, old Roman tradition for Mass: the Oratio super populum
Now that the new, corrected translation is in force in most places, you will notice with the beginning of Lent something new that is really something old: the Oratio super populum… the Prayer over the people at the end of … Continue reading
REVIEW: Roman Missal from the Catholic Truth Society (UK) – spiffing!
At long last I received my new altar edition of the Roman Missal by the Catholic Truth Society in England. The book was ridiculously held up in customs. I have looked virtually all the new missals. I really like this … Continue reading
Reason #668948 for the new, corrected translation
For 9 September: Saint Peter Claver in the Ordinary Form. COLLECT (2002 MR): Deus, qui beatum Petrum servorum servum effecisti eumque mira in eis iuvandis caritate et patientia roborasti, eius nobis intercessione concede, ut, qua Iesu Christi sunt, quaerentes, proximos … Continue reading
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Tagged ICEL, new corrected translation, St. Peter Claver
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“Generally the feedback has been very positive.”
On the site of the Bishops Conference of England and Wales, there is an audio/podcast with Msgr. Andrew Wadsworth, Executive Secretary of ICEL about the new, corrected translation. Podcast: Mgr Andrew Wadsworth of ICEL talks about the new translation of … Continue reading
Posted in Brick by Brick
Tagged Gregorian chant, ICEL, liturgical music, Msgr. A. Wadsworth, New Translation
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What to do with obsolete ICEL Missals – “Sacramentaries”
People have been asking what to do with obsolete editions of the lame-duck Sacramentary. I have made some suggestions in the past. The Canadian Bishops gave their own suggestion. For real. De-commissioning the Sacramentary 1. After the Prayer after Communion, … Continue reading
Requiem for an ICEL translation
In England the new translation of the Ordinary of Mass will be used beginning September. Therefore, this Sunday was the last Sunday people will be constrained by law to hear the lame-duck ICEL version in force for these last few … Continue reading
Posted in Brick by Brick, Mail from priests, Our Catholic Identity, The Drill
Tagged Fr. Blake, ICEL, New Translation
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