QUAERUNTUR: More questions about Universae Ecclesiae

From a reader:

I have a couple of questions [Looks like more than a couple.]
!. In regards to Breviarium Romanum. “Summorum Pontificum gives clerics the faculty to use the Breviarum Romanum in effedt in 1962, which is to be prayed entirely and in the Latin language.”
What if used by the faithful, in replacement of the LOTH. Can the Breviarum Romanum be prayed in vernacular. What if the faithful gather together without a priest, can it be prayed in vernacular, if no one understands or can speak Latin good enough.  [Those who are not bound to say the office may do as they please.]
2. In regards to 19. The faithful who ask for the celebration of the forma extraordinaria must not in any way support or belong to groups which show themselves to be against the validity or legitimacy of the Holy Mass or the Sacraments celebrated in the forma ordinaria or against the R
Roman Pontiff etcc”.
Will this also apply to the faithful of the forma ordinaria. They as well must not in any way support or belong to groups which show themselves to be against the validity or legitimacy of the Holy Mass or the Sacraments celebrated in the forma extraordinaria. [Neither Summorum Pontificum nor Universae Ecclesiae concern themselves with the faithful during celebrations of the Ordinary Form.]
3. In regards to 34. The use of the liturgical books proper to the Religious Orders which were in effect in 1962 is permitted.
Will this allow say a Franciscan OFM. To privately or publicly to use the liturgical books of their Order in 1962, or will they need permission from their superiors. [I think this will depend on the particular law of the orders in question.]
4. Will this document apply to the Ambrosian Rite. And what if the Ordianriates wish to use the Sarum Rite?. Will this document apply to these circumstances. Or will another document have to address these issues. [No. No.  Yes.]

I believe that the Sarum Rite was not one of the Rites grandfathered in.  The music associated with the Sarum thing was, however.  Use as much as possible.

Another reader writes:

I noticed Universæ Ecclesiæ mentions the Sacrament of Confirmation (§29), but what about Matrimony? Suppose one wants to get married outside his home parish at a church that permits Ordinary Form weddings for non-parishioners. Could the pastor of that church legitimately forbid a wedding in the Extraordinary Form (EF) from occurring in his church? My wife and I faced this problem when we were looking for a church in which to marry because our EF parish did not have its own church yet. This is an exceptional and probably rare situation, so I doubt Universæ Ecclesiæ can help at all in this case, but I thought I’d ask to be sure. Thanks

When you get into the subject of marriages, the playing field shifts a bit.  No one has a right to be married in church X.  You have to deal with the pastor, rector, etc.  This is not just a matter of which book is used for the rites.  However, people can certainly be married with the older rite, provided that there is a priest willing and able and everything is done within what is reasonable at the church.

Just because Universae Ecclesiae is out, that doesn’t mean people don’t have to exercise charm and diplomacy and have all their ducks in a row when dealing with priests.

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