Evil consequences of evil positions

This is appalling. It is hard to wrap my mind around this evil thinking.

Remember: In their religion, abortion is a sacrament.

From CNS:

Were Congress to outlaw the transporting of a minor without her parents’ permission across state lines to get an abortion, an abortion- and gay-rights activist testifying on Capitol Hill Thursday she would break the law to continue to help girls end their pregnancies. [Did you get the elements there?  A minor, without parental permission, inter-state…]

Appearing as a Democratic Party [The Party of Death?] witness at a hearing of the House Judiciary subcommittee on the Constitution, Dr. Katherine Hancock Ragsdale, president and dean of the Episcopal Divinity School in Cambridge, Mass. [First a Georgetown law student who is really an activist, and now a ministrix who is really an activist.] recalled the time she took a 15-year-old girl she had never met before to get an abortion.

“Although New Hampshire was closer to that girl’s home than Boston, as it happened, I did not take her across state lines,” Ragsdale said. “Nor did I, to my knowledge, break any laws. [Except God’s law.]

“But if either of those things had been necessary in order to help her, I would have done them,” she continued. “And if helping young women like her should be made illegal I will, nonetheless, continue to do it.”

Ragsdale cited her vows as an Episcopal priest [Impossible for two reasons.] as the reason why she would “have no choice” but to break the law… (continued)

This is the sort of person who will rise to greater prominence in the weeks ahead.

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  1. Sissy says:

    And my relatives wonder why I left the Episcopal “church”.

  2. Gregory DiPippo says:

    Optime Pater,
    Nihil novum sub sole, sadly. She is also on record publicly saying that EVERY abortion that takes for every reason is a blessing. Not a necessary evil. A positive blessing. As documented by Lifesite’s Hilary White (aka Hilaria Niveus) on LS itself and on her personal blog:



    “When doctors and pharmacists try to opt out of providing medical care, claiming it’s an act of conscience, our work is not done.”

    She’s just ahead of the curve.

  3. pm125 says:

    Why do these ever so righteous and highly placed leaders never voice a word about the souls involved, the two – mother and child, then the facilitators and medical people?
    When (or if) the Supreme Court ever defines life as beginning at conception, there will be “wailing and gnashing of teeth” by these luminaries. Or not, because the UN will overcome for them. This is a “walk through the valley of death”. Psalm 23.

  4. pm125 says:

    Oh – the souls – (see power of mind control) and that of the father!

  5. APX says:

    And if helping young women like her should be made illegal I will, nonetheless, continue to do it.”

    Hmm, I bet she’d be a real joy to supervise on probation.

    It’s hard to believe there are people this evil out there still. What’s even harder to believe is that this is the same church that is starting to join our church.

  6. Makes me wonder why Rowan Williams of Canterbury was allowed to vest as a Catholic Bishop and participate with the Pope in a joint Vesper Service in a Roman Basilica. I think if I were an Anglican considering conversion I might have second thoughts after witnessing that event.

  7. Clinton says:

    It’s just such rationalizations by folks like Dr. Ragsdale that make it difficult to prosecute
    statutory rape and incest. Taking a 15-year-old girl to get an abortion, without any parental
    or court notification, merely ‘destroys the evidence’. For all this woman knows, she had just
    enabled the continued sexual exploitation of that child.

    I suspect that it isn’t so much the welfare of such girls, but rather the servicing of the pro-abortion
    agenda that is the real priority of Dr. Ragsdale.

  8. Archromanist says:

    The woman is openly lesbian and “married” to her partner, another episcopalian priestess (see the following for a “wedding” photo: http://www.patriotledger.com/lifestyle/faith/x1442458517/Marriage-of-2-lesbian-Episcopal-priests-adds-new-twist-to-gay-issues). Her whole life is a study in the exercise and propagation of perversion under the guise of godliness. And so her defense of even illegal abortions is hardly surprising–it is only the natural consequence of the wickedness that informs her own life. She is a tool in the hands of the father of lies and desperately in need of prayer and conversion.

  9. Sid says:

    If this isn’t enough to make you run for your barf bag, google her “abortion is a blessing” rant.

    Yet in the face of this I try to take to heart Psalm 37 [36]. And the author of that Psalm wasn’t Pollyanna or Dr. Pangloss.

  10. jilly4ski says:

    This is sick. It also makes it more difficult to prosecute kidnapping crimes. So all the girls abusive boyfriend, incestual relative, or pimp has to say is that he was taking her to get an abortion. (probably pressuring her and coercing her to get one). Taking a minor across state lines without parent permission is kidnapping. If a divorced parent tried this, they get tried for kidnapping. And courts are not kind to parents who try to remove a child from the custody of another parent, even a potentially dangerous and abusive parent.

  11. trad catholic mom says:


  12. terryprest says:

    “Abortion is a blessing” ?

    I would not like to be in the congregation if she was giving the blessing

  13. Dr. Edward Peters says:

    One can’t make up reductiones ad adbsurda anymore, to show the weaknesses of various arguments, for the absurdities are already embraced and proclaimed at the the highest levels of the land.

  14. Dr. Edward Peters says:

    absurda, of course.

    “She is a tool in the hands of the father of lies …” Were truer words ever spoken?

  15. Joe in Canada says:

    APX: no, don’t worry, this is not the same church that is starting to join. Catholic theology never calls the Episcopalians a church, just a ‘communion’.

    Heiromonk Gregory: for the same reason, don’t worry particularly about that. If the Rev. (by politeness) Ragsdale became an Episcopalian bishop, the local RC bishop and the local OCA bishop will be invited, and will probably show up. I would praise them if they didn’t, but am resigned. But the Archbishop of Canterbury is not responsible for Mme Ragsdale.

    Our Lord himself told us directly that we should leave the sorting out of the wheat and tares to him at the final judgment. Let us apply this thought to “ecumenism”. And yet prudence will also remind us of dogs, and fleas, etc.

  16. Joe in Canada says:

    sorry, Hieromonk.

  17. ContraMundum says:

    I feel almost like Alice must have. The Hatter’s remark seemed to have no sort of meaning in it, and yet it was certainly English. At any rate, her use of words (such as “help” and “priest”) are so contrary to their proper meanings that I think it would be impossible to have a conversation with her.

  18. rodin says:

    “Appearing as a Democratic Party [The Party of Death?]”

    Appearing as a Democratic Party [The Party of Death! –end of statement end of paragraph. No need to go on]. They should all be wearing death’s-head masks. Once upon a long time ago I was a Democrat. Ugh!

  19. Random Friar says:

    Lambeth, 1930. I’m sure the most common words were “What could it hurt?” with respect to contraception. Now, it’s almost a duty, a sacred one at that, to abort.

  20. The Astronomer says:

    The Screaming of the Approaching Beast foretold in the Apocalypse of St. John takes many forms.


  21. The Cobbler says:

    “The woman is openly lesbian and “married” to her partner, another episcopalian priestess…”
    Anyone care to list the differences between an Episcopalian and a Wiccan?

  22. jrpascucci says:

    “And if helping young women like her should be made illegal I will, nonetheless, continue to do it.”

    In effect, she said she’d be willing to go to prison in order to procure the murder of a child by a child.

    You can’t really fault her dedication to the cause of promulgating Satan’s sacrament.

  23. Andy Lucy says:

    @APX… “Hmm, I bet she’d be a real joy to supervise on probation. ”

    Not for long. I’d have her revoked and walking her shelf time flat. That sort of defiance irritates both probation officers AND judges around western Kentucky… but she would likely recant and swear on a stack of any convenient holy writ that she would Never. Do. It. Again. Until the next time.

  24. Uncledan says:

    Do not hate this woman! The Devil has her. Get her back! Pray that she comes to the light. Imagine if she will do these things for abortion, what she would do for God were she to awaken to the Truth! Pray for her NOW.

  25. Nicole says:

    Uncledan, she’s as much as called God bad throughout her “abortion is a blessing” exposition of tripe. Why would she return to her Author and Maker who has enslaved her to her reproductive system in the first place?…I wonder if this woman would fall under “the sin unto death” which the Apostle St. John wrote about in 1 John ch. 5 vs. 16…? I certainly HOPE not, but I still wonder.

  26. Uncledan says:

    Nicole, I’m just asking you to remember what God did with Saul, the great persecutor and terror of Christians.

  27. Cathy says:

    I honestly wonder if Rowan Williams might be considering coming into the Catholic Church. Seriously, this woman represents malice aforethought towards humanity at a level equal to Peter Singer. The sad thing is, this type is suddenly the darlings of the government and academia. Do we not realize that persons holding and promoting similar ideologies were found guilty and hung to death following the Nuremberg trials? I often wonder if this spiral downward into these same errors on a global scale is the very reason the Holy Spirit gave us the Holy Father we have today. Pope Benedict surely has the historical reference with which to spot and speak forthrightly against the global trending towards the same errors Nazism embraced. In reference to the Nazi’s defeat, we can hear the echos of never again, but are we to arrogant to see our own nation’s and the international buy in?

  28. Nicole says:

    I understand, Uncledan. I will keep it in mind.

  29. mike cliffson says:

    We are here to turn the other cheek on our OWN account – but if we condemn the allies for not bombing concentration camps , by what standard do we condemn John Brown? That the ensuing civil war you had was a greater evil ? If we are justified in trying to rescue a kidnap victim, how far can we go in case like this, should we know of it?
    Ive a feeling I’m missing something.

  30. Stephen D says:

    Time to apply the ‘maledictory psalms’ again?

  31. Sissy says:

    Uncledan said: “I’m just asking you to remember what God did with Saul, the great persecutor and terror of Christians.”

    A contemporary example would be Bernard Nathanson, the founder of NARAL. There is always hope that the Holy Spirit will open the eyes of even the worst of sinners.

  32. AnnAsher says:

    You notice how they hijack our vocabulary?
    When I see these wymyn preests I have difficulty keeping my hands from pulling the collar from their necks.

  33. wmeyer says:

    By violating Federal law to transport a minor over state lines for an abortion, these people imagine themselves heroes. I’ve little doubt these same people would scream bloody murder over any violation of the Mann Act. But of course, that is consistent: in both cases they stand against life.

    And no, I am not advocating the repeal of the Mann Act. Nor its violation. Just using it in parallel to the law(s) they deem designed to be broken.

    One must wonder: will there be a directory of laws which are to be broken, and laws which must be upheld? And what would such a directory be called?

  34. Rob Cartusciello says:

    Having visited the school, I can assure you that the Episcopal Divinity School in Cambridge, MA changed from a divinity school to a madhouse decades ago. This is just the next step along the slippery slope.

  35. The Cobbler says:

    “This is just the next step along the slippery slope.”
    There is no slippery slope; there are, however, prepices and people who think they can walk off and back providing they don’t look down like cartoon characters.

    What I mean is, the valid use of the “slipper slope” analogy is that there is no difference between thing A and thing B that stands up to scrutiny, and that therefore advocating A will result in B eventually even if the advocates don’t say or don’t even think they’d stand for B; but this use is more clearly shown by saying there’s no slope at all between the two, just empty space people fail to recognise; and that way one can avoid confusion with the other use of the term, “slippery slope fallacy”, which, although it is not actually a formal fallacy (it’s one of those “fallacies” where the “fallacy” is a premise that happens to be incorrect in this case, not an error in logic or even a premise that is necessarily wrong in general), is where someone claims A will lead to B without examining the differences at all (not what’s going on in most of these cases where we call “slippery slope” and can be proven right either by logic or by history).

  36. Michaelus says:

    She was required by Massachusetts law to report the sexual abuse of the 15 year old. If she did not report this she should be arrested. Bishop Finn has been indicted for failure to report something that was not actually rape or child abuse – why is this woman allowed to go unpunished?

  37. brotherfee says:

    Am I being too fanciful in suggesting a connection between Baal worship including the sacrifice of children and this “abortion is a blessing” sermon? But what benefits does this “minister” hope to obtain from these sacrifices?

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