Bottom line: “the criteria for credible allegations are more than fulfilled”

The MSM and catholic media are running their feet off carrying water for the homosexual mafia, the “gay lobby” as it is called in Italian with borrow words.  The general lines of attack against The Viganò Testimony and the support that it has received are predictable.

First, they attack Viganò’s character.   That backfires a bit.  I saw a hilarious tweet from the liberal LCWR type nun – who gossiped back to Beans – that, in a talk, Viganò tried to divide them rather than bring them into unity – which is really an admission that they were already divided before he got there.

Also, they repeat – mantra like – that this is all about homophobia and getting even.

B as in B.  S as in S.

Normal people see what is going on.

Fishwrap has a story (above other stories about the sun rising in the East and water being found to be wet) today which blats that:

US cardinals reject Vatican diplomat’s claims of widespread cover-up of abuse

Which Cardnials? Let’s guess. Could they be Cardinals Wuerl, Tobin and Cupich?

On always objective NBC Card. Cupich proclaimed that Francis has better things to do.

The Pope Has a Bigger Agenda“: Cardinal Cupich
Cardinal Blase Cupich speaks to NBC 5’s Mary Ann Ahern about the explosive allegations of a former high-ranking church official who claims the Pope knew about charges of sexual misconduct against an American cardinal and says that cardinal was responsible for Cupich’s appointment in Chicago. “The Pope has a bigger agenda,” Cardinal Cupich said. “He’s got to get on with other things, of talking about the environment and protecting migrants and carrying on the work of the church. We’re not going to go down a rabbit hole on this.”

So, a global scandal about a homosexual network and the global cover up of clerical abuse – scandals which, by the way – are rocking the faithful to their bones – are not really a big deal.   No no… it’s global warming.   Global warming was caused by clericalism, after all!

The story also cites those bishop who are opening to believing Viganò’s claims.

Here’s a good one.

At La Stampa, Andrea “Wormtongue” Tornielli has gone so far as the insist that McCarrick’s sex plaything were of legal age, that he didn’t coerce them and that, therefore its the fault of… wait for it… clericalism.

It is worth remembering: no one has ever spoken, let alone denounced, about child abuse. [Except those who did.] We are talking about harassment of people of full age, which – given that it is the bishop who invites his seminarians or priests to bed, are actually an abuse. There is no such thing as a situation of equality, before it being a sexual abuse, it is an abuse of clerical power. Although no one has ever said that to invite seminarians close to the priesthood and young priests to sleep with him, “Uncle Ted? (as McCarrick called himself) used forms of violence or threats.

No no… nothing queer about what was going on.  It’s clericalism.  THAT’s the problem!

In all of this, it seems to me, facts remain stubborn.

First, contrary to the efforts of the MSM and catholic media, Viganò has clarified with documents what happened about his alleged effort to slow or stop the Neinstedt situation.  HERE

As Bp. Morlino pointed out, and as even Fishwrap had to admit, putting aside questions raised about Viganò’s person:

Viganò has offered a number of concrete, real allegations … Thus, the criteria for credible allegations are more than fulfilled, and an investigation, according to proper canonical procedures, is certainly in order.

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  1. Benedict Joseph says:

    Those who are known to be sympathetic to the homosexual element and their ideology continue to emerge as the adversaries of Archbishop Viganò and his soundly supported testimony. This is a man of faith at the last passage of temporal existence who would not jeopardize his eternal salvation to score a vengeful hit.
    Passive-aggressive and vindictive — the expected and usual personality profile – the credibility of his opponents is non-existent. When you live up to gross characterizations you can expect to be regarded with skepticism. It is not odd to see the heterodox element – the irony be not lost – in the Church exhibit the same characteristics of a sub-culture that wears victimhood as a badge of honor when it appears that within the ecclesial orbit they have been the most likely to victimize.
    This truth is out, and it will not go back in the closet. And they themselves are the ones who have brought disgrace and distrust not only upon the Church, but upon those shouldering bravely and virtuously the cross of same-sex attraction – anonymously and with prudence – across all walks of life and service within the Church.
    God reward Archbishop Viganò. His veracity is impeccable and was only magnified by the spineless response by Pope Francis to a direct question which only required a simple yes or a no. Mendacity takes refuge in a word salad – yet again.

  2. Dismas says:

    “Stall for time! I don’t care how! The paper shredder is jammed!”

  3. PetersBarque says:

    Bingo. Next they’ll allege the victims and those acting in good conscience are in collusion. The paranoid unraveling is very revealing.

  4. dbf223 says:

    “The Pope has a bigger agenda,” Cardinal Cupich said. “He’s got to get on with other things, of talking about the environment and protecting migrants and carrying on the work of the church. We’re not going to go down a rabbit hole on this.”

    The sheer obtuseness of this statement is simply mind-boggling. Yeah, the pope’s got to get on with other things, about the environment and all that. He doesn’t have time or energy to waste on trivial things like whether he protected a sexual predator.

    I mean, if you’re going to try to sweep this under the rug, can’t you at least find a less disingenuous and sophmoric way to dismiss it? I’ve seen far more impressive lies from my six year old cousin.

  5. Amerikaner says:

    The Devil can’t hide his tail.

  6. Amerikaner says:

    And I have a strong feeling that once the Progressives see their efforts failing, they are going to try to somehow pin this on Benedict XVI. If there must be someone at the top to blame, they will somehow say it all started with him to shift focus…

  7. AnthonyJ says:

    Cupich’s statement sounds almost exactly like what Bill Clinton’s supporters were saying when he was caught committing perjury in regard to his affair with Monica Lewinsky. They would say, “We have to stop talking about this to let him get on with the business of running the country.”

  8. Benedict Joseph says:

    Andrea “Wormtongue” Tornielli has a point. It is perplexing that young adult males — eighteen and over — are enticed into morally compromising behavior of this sort. To the normally adjusted it is repugnant. It easily elicits a rather vitriolic and instinctive response. This does not in the slightest mitigate the activity of any older cleric preying upon the young adult male – even those who are subject to the same disorientation – from a certain perspective it is even worse to take advantage another’s chronic weakness. But for the life of me I cannot understand how these young men either did not either verbally or physically assault McCarrick the predator.
    Mortal sin is not the price of ordination. There is something wrong here.
    Some people climb to high places horizontally rather than on their feet. There is a cast of characters here who were willingly complicit with McCarrick’s abuse of power, even if they did not find it abusive, and for their own advantage.
    Who are they and what are they up to today? What positions do they hold? Where have they been and what offices do they have their sites on?
    Clericalism – no. Careerism yes. And coupled with homosexuality it’s a double-barreled shot gun.

  9. The Egyptian says:

    We’re not going to go down a rabbit hole on this.
    Oh yes “we” are, you and your ilk dug it, and man oh man it looks DEEP.
    something about making your bed, well, now LAY in it, enjoy the flees,
    Us in the laity have paid for the 1st hole that was dug over this, WE ARE NOT paying for this one,
    now in you go, bye bye

  10. Atra Dicenda, Rubra Agenda says:

    Wormtongue indeed.

    The threat of a ruined career if you say “no”. One doesn’t need threats of violence.

    And there are many, many people who spoke up and were silenced by chancery offices, bishops, and the abusers themselves who did turn to physical violence in some reported cases.

    And this is an issue of abuse of clerical power….by a cabal of interconnected homosexual predators.

    These liberals are unreal…where are the Weinstein victims standing in solidarity with abused seminarians or teenagers?

  11. JesusFreak84 says:

    I wonder if he’ll go down the rabbit hole if the regular folks stop sending money downtown? Or if the AG’s investigation somehow results in the Church losing Her tax-exempt status in IL? Or if “[c]atholic” politicians like Sen. Durbin start getting blowback for still being formally (technically) affiliated with the Church?

  12. tho says:

    When the U.S. Supreme Court legalized sodomy and homosexual marriage, with the deciding vote cast by Justice Anthony Kennedy, a Catholic, our culture normalized perverted sex. Since then it has been a rush to the bottom. Holy scripture condemns such practices, and Mother Nature imposes terrible illnesses on the practitioners, both physical and mental.
    People who consider chastity a virtue are bewildered by any clergyman who doesn’t support the ideal. Sins of the flesh are common and with a proper sense of amending our ways, they can be forgiven. But to consider our highest prelates, aiding and abetting such practices, as a rabbit hole, is another slap in the face to our laity.

  13. Uxixu says:

    The biggest problem has the lack of ecclesiastical discipline, not only on sodomy but on adultery aka ‘no fault divorce’ and the refusal of the Sacraments to prompt contrition and penance, to say nothing of the nominally Catholic politicians allowed to dissent. This has been particularly acute going back to the “truce of 1968” over Humanae Vitae, if not the Land o’Lakes Statement and has been swelling since then. We can pray the next pope re-invigorates the old Holy Office and tolerates no dissent, to say nothing of imposing full censure and discipline on clerics who stray, particularly the Jesuits who should be completely suppressed if they can’t be turned over to one of the orthodox ones left (say Fr. Fessio).

  14. Hugh says:

    In the narrative of Cupich et al, Uncle Ted lured seminarians to his beach house and committed wanton acts of … “clericalism”.

    The horror! We had no idea!

    But then, perhaps clericalism is innate. So should we really be supporting programs of re-education to eliminate your clericalist inclinations when God made you that way? Isn’t that deeply offensive to the vulnerable minority of clericalists?

  15. maternalView says:

    Too bad on this feast of St. Augustine the bishop couldn’t have just confessed.

  16. Gab says:

    The Church is beset with leftism. Leftism is a mental illness.

  17. christopherschaefer says:

    Cupich: “We’re not going to go down a rabbit hole on this.” No surprise there; sodomites prefer a different orifice for their “sin that cries out to heaven”—definitely NOT a rabbit hole.

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