NEW WDTPRS MUG!: “Lockstep sheep and papist throwbacks”

You may recall that a nitwit at HuffPo called those who support the new, corrected translation “lockstep sheep and papist throwbacks”.   Some people clamored for a coffee mug with that phrase.

I have obliged!  I wanted to see one, physically hold it in my hand and examine it before posting the link to the store.

CafePress now lets you order and pay via your Amazon account.

I have the first being shipped to me as we speak.

Here is an image from the Cafepress store… which looked a little fuzzy to me.. which is why I wanted to see one.  This is the regular coffee mug.

CLICK TO GO TO STORE

Details of the images I used.

The sheep are from a very courtly critter in a 6th century mosaic in the Basilica of Sts. Cosmas and Damian in Rome.  When lined up like this, they have the added advantage of looking as if they are goosestepping.

Top right corner.

Lower left corner.

The whole thing:

And now the real thing.  Sorry.. my own photo is a little fussy, but the image is nice and clear in person.

This is the large coffee mug.   There is a bit more white above and below on this larger mug… but I like the larger mugs.

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Links to other Z-STUFF HERE.

Link to the “Lockstep Sheep” mug HERE.

I may make a second edition and add some other items… so keep an eye on the store!

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QUAERITUR: BEARDS! FACIAL HAIR! BISHOPS! SEMINARIANS! DRAMA! SCANDAL!

From a reader:

I am now wondering about beards for clerics of the Roman Rite (if, as Benedict once asked, the Latin Rite still exists). [If Benedict existed… some scholars of late-antiquity have their doubts…] It is my understanding that priests and seminarians of the Latin Rite were clean shaven. I know that St. Charles Borromeo wrote concerning this for example. A number of dioceses do not allow their seminarians to wear beards (e.g. ____), but there is a contigent of men here that are all starting to wear them. It looks terrible. Is there anything in writing still in force proscribing them?

It is true that for a very long time Latin rite clerics (therefore seminarians) were forbidden facial hair and and jewelry because they are “vanities”.   Think about some of the spectacular trends in male facial hair in ages past.  As Jack Aubrey would say, “Vanity ain’t in it.”

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Since I am an unreconstructed ossified manualist, I think priests and diocesan seminarians of the Latin Rite should be clean shaven. Yes, I know that it is no longer the law and I know that some men chose beards for skin reasons and not for vanity, but that is where I stand.  I stand there, damn it!  No beard!  No mustaches, d’ya hear?  Off with them, then!

A bishop doesn’t have the right under law to require a diocesan seminarian to shave every day… think about it.  However, he can, for one reason or another, chose to keep the man as a seminarian or not.

Seminarians have the right to Christian burial… sort of.  It’s a power thing, like it or not.

However, the physical appearance of priests reflects on the priesthood and the diocese.  The bishop has a responsibility to uphold both the reputation of priests and the dignity of the whole presbyterate and diocese.

I recommend these things as gifts to seminarians and priests with beards.

shaving soap

GREAT stuff.

And this:

shaving brush

In the meantime, remember that some seminarians are actually pretty young and are still figuring out what they want to do with those, as Bill Cosby put it, “little tiny hairs growin’ out my face”.

Look… common sense has to prevail here.  Men grow beards.  So long as they are decent, and since the law does not now forbid them for Latin rite clerics, fine.  If they are scruffy and make the priest look like an idiot….. well… they have to figure that out on their own, just as would be the case in academia, an office, on Wall Street… or in the Occupy Wall Street crowd wherein I believe beards are also lice infested and laden with souvenirs of unpurchased meals.

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QUAERITUR: How do you get an image next to your comments around here?

A couple readers have asked about the images/icons/avatars next to the comments some readers leave.

Here is an entry which deal with that question and gives some answers.  Click HERE.

Would some kindly and geeky reader would post a step-by-step guide in combox?

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WDTPRS POLL: Holding hands during the Our Father – your preference.

holding handsThere is a lot of discussion about holding hands during the Our Father.

I am curious about your preferences.

Please chose your best answer and give your reasons or explanations in the combox, below.

Do NOT.. do NOT… engage each other in the combox.  Leave every person feel free to say their piece without worrying about other people jumping up and down on their heads.

To be clear … do NOT… do NOT engage each other in the combox. Leave every person feel free to say their piece without worrying about other people jumping up and down on their heads.

Holding hands with anyone/everyone during the Our Father.

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Peter Kreeft on liberals: “A Catholic cannot be today what is called a liberal about abortion.”

From the Wisconsin State Journal we have a tale of the visit and speech given by Dr. Peter Kreeft at the Pastoral Center of the Diocese of Madison, where the H.E. Most Rev. Robert Morlino reigns.

In the Spirit: Can a Catholic also be a liberal?

DOUG ERICKSON
Sunday, November 27, 2011 9:00 am

To certain Catholics, Peter Kreeft is a rock star.

That was evident Nov. 18, when nearly 500 people filled an auditorium at the Bishop O’Connor Center in Madison to hear him talk.

Kreeft, a Catholic author and Boston College philosophy professor, had been asked by the Catholic Diocese of Madison to speak on whether “a Catholic can be a liberal.” Kreeft called it “a very challenging question” and said he’d never spoken on it before.

Kreeft is a strong defender of the Catholic Church against what some people call “modernists” or, more derisively, “cafeteria Catholics,” people who pick and choose which church teachings to follow.

There is no middle ground to Kreeft. It would be silly and redundant to him, for instance, to call someone a “pro-life Catholic.” You cannot be anything but against abortion to be a Catholic, Kreeft said.

To be a Catholic is to take the whole deal,” he told the crowd.

Kreeft said several definitions of a liberal can and should fit Catholics, including “someone who is generous and unselfish” and “someone who highly values liberty and freedom.”

On abortion, Kreeft contended Catholics are the “true liberals,” because a liberal wants to extend liberty to the oppressed, and “the unborn are the most oppressed,” he said.  [Amen and Amen!  Do I hear an “Amen!”?  I have been hammering this for ever!  The greatest achievement of the liberals, moderists, feminists, etc., was to divorce the right to life of the unborn from “social justice”.  They attached it to “women’s rights” or “morals” or some category, when in fact it is also a matter of true social justice.]

Yet, in the political realm, the term liberal has been hijacked by abortion rights activists, Kreeft said. “A Catholic cannot be today what is called a liberal about abortion. That’s obvious. That’s a ‘duh.'”

Kreeft mentioned other issues, such as homosexual marriage and euthanasia, that he said Catholics cannot take politically liberal positions on, yet he focused most on abortion. Coming in for the most criticism were elected officials who call themselves Catholic yet support abortion rights. [Do I hear an “Amen!”?]

During the Q&A, an audience member brought up the Kennedy political dynasty and how a group of leading theologians and Catholic college professors had met with Kennedy family members in the mid-1960s and came up with a way for Catholic politicians to support a pro-abortion rights platform with clear consciences.  [McCormick, Fuchs, Curran, Drinan… grrrrrr…. ]

Kreeft said these Catholic advisers “told the Kennedys how they could get away with murder.” Kreeft then made one of his boldest comments of the evening, suggesting the theologians who first convinced Democratic politicians they could support abortion rights and remain Catholic did more damage to the Catholic Church than pedophile priests. [Which is obviously true.]

These were wicked people. These were dishonest people. These were people who, frankly, loved power more than they loved God,” Kreeft said. “Sorry, that’s just the way it is. In fact, I’d say these were even worse than the child molesters — though the immediate damage they did was not as obvious — because they did it deliberately, it wasn’t a sin of weakness. Sins of power are worse than sins of weakness. Cold, calculating sins — that’s straight from the devil.

A few minutes later, the talk over, the crowd gave him a standing ovation.

How I regret not hearing that talk!  I hope there is a video or audio available.

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Fishwrap rakes up some muck in the Arlington altar girl dispute

You may recall that a priest of the Diocese of Arlington, Fr. Michael Taylor of Corpus Christi Church in South Riding, VA, made a decision in favor of male-only service at the altar (not against girls, but in favor of boys… there is a difference). He was fully within the bounds of his authority to do this. No injustice or anything outside the Church’s law was imposed. As we have seen happen more and more frequently, those who disagreed with this decision moved their protests beyond the community of the parish or or the diocese or of Holy Church and into the mainstream media.

This is a common tactic of the left.

More and more often, we are seeing that the kuroko of the mainstream media are happy to help the protestors shift their props and complaints into full view of a secularized public for the sake of undermining the Church’s doctrine and structures. With Alinkskyite tactics they make the issue of service at the altar into a “have v have not” issue, “us against them”, a class struggle against injustice against those who have “power”.  Fr. Taylor was attacked, personally, even by CNN.

“Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it” – Saul Alinsky (Rules for Radicals – dedicated by the author to Satan).

The National catholic Reporter (aka Fishwrap) has dredged up the altar server situation in Arlington, which by now should be fairly old news. Here are a few choice excerpts with my emphases and comments.

Catholics protest altar server policy
Left up to pastors, more than half of Arlington parishes disallow girls
Dec. 03, 2011
By Alice Popovici

ARLINGTON, VA. — A few dozen people [How many Catholics are there in the Diocese of Arlington?] walked along North Glebe Road in front of the Arlington diocesan headquarters Nov. 20, holding bright signs that called for justice and change.

“Pray for our diocese,” read one sign, handwritten on fluorescent pink cardboard. “Dignity for our girls,” said another. [Pink and “dignity”… remind you of anything?] And another: “We support female altar servers.” And another: “Bishop we need your leadership.” [In other words, the bishop is a “leader” only if he pressures Fr. Taylor to change his decision.  But, according to the Church’s law, a pastor is within his rights to make a decision for male-only service.  Furthermore, any priest can opt for male-only service for a Mass.  They are, therefore, “freezing and personalizing” the person of the bishop, asking him to do something he cannot actually do, unless he does it with behind the scenes…. what… threats?  negotiations?  Which he is unlikely to do if he knows the law and is just in proper sense of justiceA bishop cannot officially oblige a priest to allow altar service by females.]

What the women and men [but not “men and women”] — most of them Catholics from area parishes [not Fr. Taylor’s parish… so.. where are they from?] — specifically asked for during the hourlong afternoon vigil was that Bishop Paul Loverde require priests in his diocese to allow both girls and boys to serve at the altar. [“require”, right?  They are unaware that lay people have no right to liturgical service of any kind?  The possibility under law for lay people to serve in some liturgical role is permissive.  Lay people have no “right” to serve.  But many people today reassign “active participation” to the sphere of rights.  They move it into a political category, and act accordingly when they think they aren’t getting their way.] Though the Vatican has officially allowed female altar servers since 1994, the Arlington diocese has left the decision to individual priests since 2006; as a result, nearly half of the parishes allow girl altar servers while the rest do not.

“What are we saying to young women as they attend Mass?” Jim FitzGerald, executive director of national Catholic organization Call to Action, [Surprise!] asked in an interview. Call to Action, which works for justice and equality within the church, [What they think is “justice and equality”.] counts Arlington as one of two dioceses in the country currently known to exclude girls from serving at the altar. (The Lincoln, Neb., diocese has banned girl altar servers throughout the diocese since 1994.)

“To me, it’s a message of sexism and discrimination,” FitzGerald said. [Using a narrow and distort lens, it would appear that way.]

[…]

[Watch this…] “We are Catholics who want to go to Mass on Sunday, but also be involved with the community,” said Zickel, who taught religious education classes at Corpus Christi [Fr. Taylor’s parish] and enjoyed watching her 7-year-old and 4-year-old daughters play sports and attend Brownie meetings with children from their church. [There seems to be a moral equivalence here, no?  She “enjoys” watching her children do things.  Watching her daughter play sports is something she enjoys.  Watching her daughter serve at Mass is ….]

“We really like to instill in these children a sense of virtue,” Zickel said. “It was just so interesting to see that seep into the community and into the schools.”  [“instill in these children a sense of virtue”… they have to serve Mass to acquire a “sense of virtue”?]

[…]

One father who walked along North Glebe Road said he came to the vigil because the issue is “a matter of simple justice.” [No, it isn’t, because lay people don’t have a right to serve at the altar.] Another man carried a sign that read “Dads for Altar Girls = Love.” [There’s a position.  I love my daughter, therefore she should be allowed by Fr. Taylor to serve.]

Thea Rossi Barron, who attends Our Lady Queen of Peace, said, “Christ did not give an example that excluded women.” [Yes, He did.  Most notably, none of the Apostles (first bishop/priests) were female.  Jesus excluded women from being His Apostles (bishops/priests).]

Zickel’s parents, Michael and Kathi Piehler, who live in Rochester, N.Y., visited Arlington specifically for the vigil. [Interesting, no?  They came in from New York!] Michael walked with a sign that read, “What is so wrong with this?” next to a large photograph of one of his granddaughters, taken when she served as a cross bearer at a relative’s funeral.

“The presence of altar girls is not a stumbling block to priestly vocations, and if it were, that’s a pretty fragile vocation,” Piehler said. “I think the Holy Spirit’s much stronger than that.” [On the other hand, grace builds on nature.  It is not merely a matter of what the Holy Spirit can or cannot will in this matter, which he cannot know, but there is also a question of human nature.  The Church expressed a clear that vocations be fostered also through male service at the altar.  The sensibilities of boys at different stages of development must be considered when service at the altar is in question.]

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WDTPRS VOICEMAIL

I received voice mails through Skype and my Skype numbers (one in the USA and another in the UK).  Thanks!

NB: The numbers changed from the old numbers, which I allowed to lapse.

I have been able to fix a couple log in problems for people this way.  Also, I heard a report that my iTunes feed for my PODCAzTs is not delivering very well.  I know, and it is a matter of some puzzlement and frustration.  I think that one of these days I should turn these technical details over to someone reliable who knows what he is doing and whom I can trust.

I really look forward to non-technical voice mails.

Your donations helped pay for those US and UK phone numbers. Messages don’t have to be profound.  Friendly is find with me!   And if I get some good ones, I’ll include you in a PODCAzT.

NOTE: Those numbers and skype take you into voice mail.  I don’t answer.

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Fr. Z about, and to, Mr. Gingrich. Implantation? Not conception?

How many times have we heard that presidential candidate and former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich is smart? I would pay money to watch a debate between Mr. Gingrich and Pres. Obama.

People can convert, grow, change, mature, etc. We should not be Donatists when it comes to other people’s mistakes in life, as if they are perpetually and irremediably damned to hell forever in the court of public opinion.  We pray, after all, that people will sincerely convert.  We should be pleased when they do.

I have followed Mr. Gingrich over the years and read some of his books with interest. This new development, however, leaves me puzzled.

The former Speaker is fully capable of saying a really dumb thing in the midst of a hundred really smart things.  But this leaves me severely puzzled.

Mr. Gingrich is a fairly recent convert to Holy Church.  He is a huge fan of Pope John Paul…. I hope not merely for the late Pontiff’s geopolitical achievements.

There is no way that Newt Gingrich does not know that the Catholic Church teaches – what John Paul II made crystal clear – that human life begins at conception, not implantation.

Before I add anything else, let me add one of my major points of consideration for my vote in November 2012: judges.

The overriding point about judges is not “Whom would Mr. Gingrich appoint to the bench?”.  The overriding point is “Pres. Obama must be defeated so that he cannot appoint another judge.”  If the President’s opponent is, as Mark Levin puts it, a frozen orange juice can, the judges the can would appoint would be better.

I’m just sayin’…

His scriptis

Catholic Vote has a transcript.  However… are they talking across each other?

In a story published this morning, Gingrich told ABC News that life begins at implantation. Which not only puts him at odds with the pro-life community, but also [At odds with…] the Catholic Church which Gingrich joined as an adult just two years ago[Did he mispeak?  Will he clarify himself?  Is this what he really thinks?  If so, is that a dealbreaker for smart Catholic voters?]

APPER: Abortion is a big issue here in Iowa among conservative Republican voters and [Catholic] Rick Santorum has said you are inconsistent. The big argument here is that you have supported in the past embryonic stem cell research and you made a comment about how these fertilized eggs, these embryos are not yet “pre-human” because they have not been implanted. This has upset conservatives in this state who worry you don’t see these fertilized eggs as human life. [Quaeritur…] When do you think human life begins?

GINGRICH: Well, I think the question of being implanted is a very big question.  My friends who have ideological positions that sound good don’t then follow through the logic of: ‘So how many additional potential lives are they talking about? What are they going to do as a practical matter to make this real?’

I think that if you take a position when a woman has fertilized egg and that’s been successfully implanted that now you’re dealing with life. because otherwise you’re going to open up an extraordinary range of very difficult questions. [Soooo… therefore?]

TAPPER: So implantation is the moment for you.

GINGRICH: Implantation and successful implantation. [Not conception?] In addition I would say that I’ve never been for embryonic stem cell research per se. I have been for, there are a lot of different ways to get embryonic stem cells. I think if you can get embryonic stem cells for example from placental blood if you can get it in ways that do not involve the loss of a life that’s a perfectly legitimate avenue of approach.  [When does life begin?]

What I reject is the idea that we’re going to take one life for the purpose of doing research for other purposes and I think that crosses a threshold of de-humanizing us that’s very very dangerous.

This is a pretty slippery slope, Mr. Speaker.  I might not have the million Twitter followers you have and the vast soap box you stand on, and the extensive media attention, but I have what I have, which isn’t nothing.

I will be listening carefully, Mr. Speaker, for your additional explanations of your thoughts about the beginning of life and implantation, and I want to know more about your thoughts on judges in the context of this issue.

One might expect a recent adult convert – and that is what you are, Mr. Speaker – to be informed about and zealous for the whole of Catholic doctrine, not just certain bits and pieces.  A presidential candidate who is a recent convert to Catholicism doesn’t have to run as a Catholic, but isn’t it reasonable to assume that his positions will be consistent with the Catholic Faith he recently and solemnly embraced?

Mr. Speaker, you are obviously a great fan of Pope John Paul II.  In a conversation with him, how do you think the late Pope would respond to your statement about implantation?   Would you need to clarify what you really meant to say?

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US cATHOLIC attacks the Bishop of Covington. Wherein Fr. Z rants.

holding hands Our FatherOur liturgical disputes have, I think, lined up between two parties: those who have a correct understanding and those who have a defective understanding of “active participation”.

Correctly understood, the “full, conscious and active participation” desired by the Council Fathers is rooted in our baptismal character, which makes it possible to receive graces and the other six sacraments.  “Active participation” is first and foremost an interiorly active receptivity to all that God is offering.  This interiorly active receptivity requires the person to make acts of will to stay focused and attentive to the mysteries of the sacred action.  This interior receptivity at times manifests itself outwardly in physical expression, especially in the words people speak as responses, prescribed prayers recited in common during the liturgical action, certain gestures such as kneeling or standing of making the sign of the Cross, and at times walking in procession, as in the case of going forward to receive Holy Communion.  In fact, reception of Holy Communion by a baptized person in the state of grace is the most perfect form of “full, conscious and active participation”, for its is the perfect harmony of the interior and the exterior of the person’s active receptivity.

On the other hand, some people – liberal liturgists for example – think that active participation means doing things, such as carrying stuff, clapping, singing every word of everything that could be sung, moving about, etc.  They are abetted by clerics who think they are “empowering the laity” and helping their “active participation” by surrendering their own proper roles as clerics to any number of lay people.  Liberal liturgists talk of baptism as the foundation of “active participation”.  They see baptism as conferring rights, especially the right to do things during the liturgical action.

This defective understanding of “active participation” leads to terrible consequences for our Catholic identity and our liturgical worship.

The first way in which their false notions of “active participation” (saying everything and doing stuff because it’s my right) distort our worship is that, if some participation is good, then more participation is better.  The more people get to carry more things, and the more everyone sings more notes, the more people are thought to be “participating”.

The flaw in this approach will be obvious to everyone with half a brain.  There is only so much that can be sung or carried.  The processional Cross can only be so big and only so many people can carry it at once.  The ditties can only be so long, until people grow fatigued and the guitarist’s fingers bleed.  The big puppets can only be so high before they can’t be carried.  There are only so many clay beakers available and only so much sacramental “wine” to be distributed before other problems manifest.

When you have a correct understanding of “active participation” (the will to unite oneself interiorly and receive what is being offered), you can always pray with more intensity, long the more for the graces being offered, ponder more earnestly the mystery we encounter.

On the other hand, you can only clap your hands for so long.  Therefore, what happens in the next logical move is that lay people have to start doing what the priest does and, if possible, where the priest does it.   The distorted and defective notion of “active participation” eventually leads to the false conclusion that people have rights to carry things, say what the priest says, do what the priest does.  Thus the herds of “eucharistic ministers” even when they are not really needed, the demand for “the cup”, the sense of empowerment to accept this rubric but not that, or this prayer or pericope, but not that.  Hand-holding, entirely outside any traditional liturgical practice of the Church, becomes a right.  Because why?  Because we’re baptized, damn it!  We are the empowered laity who have the right to do what we want to for the sake of “active participation”.

And as sure as the night follows the day, when a bishop or priest apply a corrective to their defective practices and distorted notions, they raise cain because they have fallen into the trap of thinking that, just because they are baptized, they have the right to do as they please.  They subsequently protest against their priests and bishops with the same techniques as those who habitually create class conflicts.  They use even Marxist or Alinskyite tactics of protest against the troglodyte traddy types who trample their baptismal rights.

The next thing the liturgy rights activists will begin to do is “Occupy Mass”. We have seen forerunners of this in, for example, the case of women who stand up during ordinations or activists who wear rainbow sashes during Mass.

A good example of this liturgy rights activism popped up on the site of the extremely liberal US cATHOLIC, penned by their perennially wrong Bryan Cones.

They are staging a nutty over there about the liturgical law issued by His Excellency Most Rev. Roger Foys for the Diocese Covington. HERE.

Among the issues addressed by the bishop is the liturgically bizarre and often liturgically abusive aberration of prompting people to hold hands and wave their arms around during the Our Father of Holy Mass.

Let’s have a glance with my emphases and comments.

Bishop of Covington: Stop holding hands!
Tuesday, November 29, 2011
By Bryan Cones

So after all my drama about the new texts (still don’t like them), [And this was all about him?] I was going to take a break from writing about the liturgy.  [sigh… if only writing it made it so …]

And then a bishop goes and does something silly (thank you, PrayTell). Like order the daughters and sons of God [like] not to hold hands during the [like] Lord’s Prayer at Mass because it’s not in the third edition of the General Instruction of the Roman Missal (GIRM). You can read the decree here.

First, I want to ask The Most Rev. Roger Joseph Foys, D.D., by the Grace of God and the Favor of the Apostolic See, Bishop of Covington: Are you completely out of your mind? [I have been tough on some bishops who took a stand against Pope Benedict’s Summorum Pontificum, but this just snotty.] What harm does this practice possibly do? And how would you like to be the poor pastor who has to enforce your stupid rule? And it is stupid.

Foys’ argument is that, since no one can change the liturgy, and the book says only the priest extends his hands during the Lord’s Prayer, no one else can do it. (And obviously the book says nothing about anything as profoundly human as holding hands.)

This is wrong for all kinds of reasons – – one of which is the general canonical rule that what is not explicitly forbidden is permitted. [There are a lot of things that are not explicitly forbidden but which for reasons of decorum and common sense we should not do.  I’ll leave the visuals out for the sake of the same decorum.] There is nothing in the law that forbids people from holding hands or extending them as the priest does, so as long as they aren’t hitting their neighbors or otherwise distracting them, [That is part of the problem: it is, in fact, a distraction.] I can’t imagine the canon lawyer who would argue the bishop actually has the authority to prevent a baptized person from doing so in the liturgy, unless they were spinning around like Wonder Woman or something.  [More aptly, perhaps one of those dancing hippos from Fantasia.]

But beyond reading the law, Foys completely misses the pastoral dimension of the liturgy – – as most rule-minded bishops do – – and the people are telling all us liturgists [Ooooo… he’s a liturgist.] something by holding hands during the Lord’s Prayer. They see the Lord’s Prayer as an expression of unity–“their” part of the prayer. [Is that, in fact, what the Lord’s Prayer is about in the context of Mass?  It is “their part“?  It belongs to them?  The Mass cannot be divided into priest’s parts and people’s parts.  Just because, for example, the priest is the only one to pronounce the consecration, that doesn’t mean that people don’t participate in that prayer by an act of will even though they don’t say a word or move their arms about.  It would be as if to say, “If I don’t get to say or do something, it isn’t mine.”] Which should also tell us that they don’t feel like the rest of the liturgy belongs to them (even though it does). So even if the Lord’s Prayer isn’t exactly the high point of the Liturgy of the Eucharist liturgically speaking, the people are telling us it is. Doesn’t that count for something? [So, effectively, liturgy is about making people feel good about themselves and what they get to do?  No… in fact.. what they have the right to do!]

The most ancient Christian prayer posture is the “orans” position – – hands extended – – the priest assumes when he proclaims the “presidential prayers.” And at one time, everyone in the assembly used it. [I think it would be good to see some evidence for that as a liturgical posture for the laity. And you can read THIS.] But, like so much liturgy, it has been clericalized, so much so in fact that a bishop is insisting only the ordained make us of it during Sunday Mass. I’m for no holding hands during the Lord’s Prayer, and instead all of us extend our hands when the priest does, since the same GIRM says that, as much as possible, the people and the priest should share the same posture. Any takers?

If not, then I think we can let God’s people hold hands if they want to.

Thumbs DownYou know… I don’t like that article.  I don’t think you should like it either.   I noticed at the bottom of the page there were “thumbs up” and “thumbs down” buttons.  I’m just sayin’ …

The problem here is really not about whether or not people should hold hands during the Our Father.

The real problem is a mentality which can be teased into two strands.  First, there is a defective notion of “active participation” which devolves into an endless spiral of people thinking they have to do more in order to participate at Mass until there is no longer a distinction between what priests and people say and do.  Parallel to this is a defective understanding of rights.  This manifests itself in open protest against bishops who try to promote liturgical norms, or who try to correct abuses.





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Smoking Bishop and a Cat named Jeoffry

A reader alerted me to this wonderful bit of lore on the blog Spitalfields Life.   Enjoy this with a glass of negus, which it’s something Preserved Killick will know about.

Nowadays, we may celebrate Christmas with a glass or four of mulled wine. But our Victorian and Georgian forebears had a vast panoply of punches, cups, caudles, noyeaux, neguses, shrubs, flips and possets at their disposal to mark the season. This included a range of  ”clerical” punches, spiced and served piping-hot with the addition of roasted (and clove-studded) lemons and seville oranges. If the drink was burgundy based it was termed a “pope,” if claret-based it was deemed an “archbishop” and if port was the main constituent the punch was called a “bishop,” and so on.

At the very end of Dickens’ “A Christmas Carol,” a reformed Ebeneezer Scrooge tells Bob Cratchett  “… we will discuss your affairs this very afternoon over a bowl of Smoking Bishop, Bob!” Now you know what that is.

This particular smoking bishop is Monsignor Cathal Septimus O’Herlihy, Bishop of Ballygramore, enjoying a glass of this edifying brew after a hard day. Note his mitre, crozier, cincture and zucchetto!

Paul Bommer did the illustration, and you can see a larger version at his place.  There shall the searching reader also find sundry entries about a cat name Jeoffry.

I happen to have a recipie for negus, in case you have forgotten how to make it.  This is from my always useful cookbook for Patrick O’Brien’s series entitled Lobscouse and Spotted Dog: Which It’s a Gastronomic Companion to the Aubrey/Maturin Novels.

1 pint medium-dry sherry or port
2 tablespoons sugar
Juice and grated zest of 1 lemon
1 pint boiling water
whole mutmeg

Put the sherry, sugar, lemon juice and zest into a jug.  Add the boiling water and stir until the sugar is dissolved.  Pour into glasses or tankards and grate a little fresh nutmeg into each.

Serves 4

I am driven to wonder, however….

Is Smoking Bishop to English hot drinks what Stinking Bishop is to English cheeses?

I have new motivation to walk the lanes of Spitalfields the next time I cross the pond, which could be after the 1st of the year.  And if Mr. Bommer is inclined, he can count on a pint.

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