QUAERITUR: Rights of students on campus to TLM under Summorum Pontificum

This is in my mailbox.

Fr. Z,
 
I am in the midst of a tense situation at a Catholic college, the identity of which I would prefer not to disclose.  The question facing us is: Granting that Summorum Pontificum acknowledges the rights of the faithful to request and to be given access to the usus antiquior, is there any way to derive, out of the document or any authoritative interpretations of it, that this access should primarily take the form of Masses offered on Sundays and possibly other Holy Days of obligation
 
I ask because there are college chaplaincies that do have the old rite, yet offer it once a week on Tuesdays at 7:30 AM, or on the 3rd Saturday of the month at 1 PM, or other such odd times.  It seems to me that a "stable group of the faithful" who legitimately desire the Extraordinary Form are inherently requesting it for Sunday because that is the Dies Domini, the high point of the Christian week.  For a pastor or chaplain to allow or celebrate the old rite other times is good, certainly, but not really the central point.
 
Would it depend on what the stable group itself explicitly requests?  I mean, if the group formally requests a Sunday Mass, is that understood to be the Mass that should be given to them in the older usage?  Or, if a pastor or chaplain responds by saying, "Well, I’m fine with a Saturday at 9:00 AM," would there be any grounds for complaint on the part of the group: "Thank you for that opportunity, but we were really looking for a way to fulfill our Sunday obligation with the old rite."?
 
Finally this comes down to a question: When, or with what circumstances, can the stable group be considered to have been granted that to which its members have a right?  I know some will say this is just a matter of prudence and practicality, but it seems to me that there has got to be some way of getting closer to an essential answer.  Otherwise, it seems either that the stable group could keep demanding all the way to asking for seven days a week, which is quite beyond what is feasible in many contexts right now, OR that the stable group could be denied even a Sunday Mass, as long as a "bone" had been tossed to them on some other day of the week or month.
 
God Bless,
 
[please withhold name]

 

These are questions for the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei and possibly the Council for Legislative Texts.

First, remember that Summorum Pontificum speaks of stable groups in the context of parishes … parish priests, pastors, are to respond to stable groups.  Of course it makes sense that if the church isn’t a parish and there is someone other than a pastor, this should apply also.  But that is not what the document says.  Also, while it is pretty clear that a group can be very small, you have to argue that a body of students is "stable".  I think the law would provide that they have some sort of domicile, if they live there.  But I don’t quite understand the status of students at a school.  It might be that "stable" doesn’t apply.

Second, I think rather than the legal/juridical argument approach, it would be best to try to arrange this through persuasion and relentless charity.  You will probably get farther that way and quicker.  The student who want this should cheerfully wear down those in charge by a kind and good-natured constant "rapping on the judge’s door" as it were, until they relent.  

Also, it may be that the priests involved don’t know how to say the older form of Mass, or they have too much to do now.  In that case, you need to be creative and get the necessary resources for the priests, including, perhaps a priest from outside willing to come in for a while.  That may involve the bishop’s permission: keep that in mind. 

Finally, it might be a good idea to contact students and prof at other schools where this cause has already been taken up and worked through.

Clearly, the spirit of the document aims at helping many groups of people, not just those who are registered parishioners.  Hopefully a sense of charity and goodwill will prevail in your case. 

Do not neglect getting the students to pray to the guardian angels of those involved, to move them to a better position, including some fasting for their petitions.  You can also pray to St. Joseph, who is a powerful intercessor.

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Into the Sabine Forest

I was out in the Sabine forest today, behind the house enjoying the autumn leaves. 

I had my little camera with me and took some movies as well as stills.  Just experimenting a bit.

So, I tinkered with my editing program to make this filmette as a learning project.

Play
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QUAERITUR: TLM resources for vision impaired priest

A question from a priest reader:

Hi Fr. Z.
 
Thank you for your work.  I have been a priest for sixteen months and have a desire to learn the EF, and some of my parishioners are even asking for it and would attend if I offered it.  My best friend, a priest in ___, and I have plans to visit the good Fathers of St. John Cantius in Chicago for training when the time permits. 

My inquiry is this.  I am visually handicapped and find it hard to read the large OF Sacramentary on a missal stand.  The EF altar Missals I have seen have even smaller print than that, and it is usually bunched up. 

I would not be able to see those…let alone use altar cards. 

Do you know of anyone who prints a larger Missal?  Would it be tacky to print larger texts for myself and have them in a binder?  Please advise if you can.

 

I know there are some very large editions of the old Missale with larger print.  They tend very old editions, reeeally large, and I am sure very hard to find.

I think in your situation using a binder, as elegant as possible, might be a good idea.  Perhaps you could get high quality color enlarged photocopies of the whole of the Ordinary, and then add the Propers you need as you go.  I think this could be done well and it wouldn’t be tacky at all.  Also, I am sure everyone would understand why you were doing it and no one in their right mind would complain.

In Italy there are some very beautiful document "binders" for presentation of important documents.  I don’t know what things are available in the USA.  Surely some readers will know more.

I hesitate to add this, for surely a few people will freak out… but once upon a time in a WDTPRS column I joked about having a liturgical laptop Missal: Sacramentarium Cyberense Romanum.  And because you just can’t make some things up fast enogh… I must also confess that I once wound up saying Mass privately from a laptop.  My missal had grown legs and I was stuck for a couple days somewhere without any book.  It was use the laptop or not say Mass at all.  I chose the laptop.  I had no printer where I was.  I had digitally photographed the whole 1962 Missale Romanum and had it on my hard drive.  I just copied the necessary pages to a folder, numbered them in order so all I had to do with the Picture Manager was click to "turn" the "page".  It worked fairly well.  I am not saying that that is a long term solution, but it could help you at least during the learning process.

Maybe some folks here have a recommendation or two.

Thanks and persevere!

I hope priests continue to write in.  I would like their contributions to be a regular feature here.
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Sabine report and many over due thanks

When I returned to the Sabine Farm, I found packages waiting for me from readers who use my amazon wish list.

I am over due in thanking those who sent them.

I am prompted because Mr. Mail Man on this lengthy rural route pulled up with a box too large for the PO box at the end of the long drive.

But first, a Sabine REPORT:

Last night I knew we were in for frost by morning when I saw the mist rising not just On Sabine Pond

But also on the higher ground.

This morning when I rose, sure enough, there was frost, which melted, thawed and resolved itself into a dew… which was no challenge to Shakespeare, but would have posed serious problems for the defenders of the old, lame-duck ICEL theory of translating. 

The dew sure made the lawn sparkle.

But it also signaled the true end of summer. 

You would think that the changing leaves would have been a good clue, as well as the heavily laden apple tree ….

Yesterday, we still had these.

Alas… no more.

Lot’s of things died last night and are being removed today.

And in the midst of the removal, here comes Mr. Mail Man!

With a wonderful mysterious BOX from amazon.

Within said box I found something from JJ of CA, The Catholic Revival In English Literature,1845?-1961: Newman, Hopkins, Belloc, Chesterton, Greene, Waugh by my friend Fr. Ian Ker.

Many thanks also go out to CG of the UK for sending Musical Evenings With The Captain and Musical Evenings With The Captain, Vol. 2 which accompany Patrick O’Brian’s aubrey/Maturin books.  They are great!

JH of OH sent Pastoral and Occasional Sermons by Ronald Knox, whom I do not know well enough at all. 

GS of MD sent Render Unto Caesar: Serving the Nation by Living our Catholic Beliefs in Political Life by Archbishop Chaput.  This is a must, folks.  Get it.  You can click that link, above.

JH of GA sent Puccini – La Boheme (The Metropolitan Opera HD Live Series) which is the Zeffirelli production on DVD.  Superb.

I received also Abortion, the Development of the Roman Catholic Perspective by John R. Connery, The Philosophy of Tolkien: The Worldview Behind The Lord of the Rings by Peter Keeft, and Bonsai Basics: A Step-By-Step Guide To Growing, Training & General Care  by Christian Pessey and Remy Samson.

I am also quite grateful to those of you who have voted and who have used the donation button.

Speaking of Bonsai… it’s time for a …

PENJING REPORT

Penjing, I am happy to say, thrives.  My absence had no negative effect.  In fact, Penjing needs a serious trim.

On the other hand Irohamomiji is, well… losing it.

I am not sure what else I expected from a maple tree in autumn.

But I find the buds a very curious thing. 

I don’t understand this tree.

Still…the grounds are rather pretty right now.  Very serene, which is an aid to work work work.

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ALERT: to all priests

I just created a new category:

Mail from priests

Some of the most interesting feedback and news I get is from priests (and bishops) who are readers.

I like to be able to share more mail from priests with WDTPRSers.

If you are a priest, I assure you that I will maintain your anonymity if you write to me.

However, if you are writing about what happened in a public event, such as a solemn Mass or what you said in your sermon on Sunday, I will probably talk about where it was and I will probably include names, etc.  After all, it was public.

But, Reverend and dear Fathers and brothers, I will keep your name and location out of the entries if you request it

The important thing is that you feel free to write in with your observations and reflections, news and insights.

I also hear from bishops from time to time.  If you ever want to say anything to this very wide readership, I will help.

Click here for my E-mail.  If you put something catchy in the subject line, such as "From Fr. …. to Fr. Z" I will spot it more quickly.

Keep in mind that I get an avalanche of e-mail as it is.  I might not use everything I get and I may not respond to your mail right away or at all, depending on how life is going.  You understand, I’m sure.

Also, a request to all WDTPRsers….

I would like to go back through posts from the past and add them to this category.  Will you help?   If you find a post that fits this category, will you send me the LINK?  Or maybe post it here below?  I can add the tags.

Many hands will make lighter work.

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24-27 October: Kansas City, MO

I head to Kansas City, MO where the church, Old St. Patrick will be made truly "up to date" by its consecration with the older, traditional Pontificale Romanum

The great Bp. Robert Finn will take Old St. Patrick "just about as far as it can go" and not just be transported into heaven.

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17-27 October: Berlin, NJ, Philly, PA, Anapolis, MD

I will be heading to Mater Ecclesiae for their 40 Hours Devotion 17-19 October.

Fr. Pasley and I will hit the road for a bit, to visit a few places in the area.

We may wind up in the area of Anapolis, MD during that week.

Blognic(s)?

Then I go to Kansas City, MO for the dedication of Old St. Patrick’s in the older, traditional Rite, but the great Bp. Robert Finn.

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QUAERITUR: When will the Pope say the TLM in public?

By a reader it is asked:

I’m betting somebody has already asked this, but do you think the Holy Father will ever offer Mass in the Extraordinary Form? It’s been well over a year since the Motu Proprio has come out, and I haven’t heard any word on this. I ask this, because one friend of mine said that the Holy Father does not necessarily approve of the old Mass, because he has never celebrated it during his pontificate. Obviously this is incorrect, but it still raises an important question: if the Holy Father does approve of the Extraordinary Form, why has he not yet offered Mass in this form?

 

First, I am not sure that it really would make a critical difference whether the Holy Father says the older Mass in public.  His provisions in Summorum Pontificum are a matter of law.  His writings before his election are clear.  Would it "make a difference"?  Sure it would!  But it would be highly politicized as well.  It might do harm as well as good.  Frankly, I am fine with that, but the Holy Father alone has his particular perspective.

Second, when the Roman Pontiff celebrates solemnly in the older Rite, there are a lot of things involved.  The ceremonial of the Roman Pontiff is pretty much impossible now, because the court was abolished and many things were swept away.  It would take eons to redevelop those things and they are probably not so desirable in many ways.  However, I think the Holy Father could celebrate the TLM as a bishop would in his diocese: that is doable.  Also, if he didn’t want to celebrate it himself, he could have it celebrated in his presence.  I would be fine with those things.

Third, I think the Holy Father is spending a lot of his capital on pulling the Novus Ordo out of the tail-spin it is in.

Fourth, the Holy Father has been positioning people around him who are very favorable toward and knowledgeable about the older form.  It seems to me that he could be paving the way for a public celebration.  I don’t know that.  That is a supposition on my part.  The Holy Father will do as he believes best for the Church in this regard and, in this regard, I am content with his decision: I really trust that he is doing what he can, through liturgy, as part of a larger plan. As a student of Ratzinger for years, a careful observer, I think I have figured out the outlines of what he is trying to accomplish.

Do I think the Holy Father will say the TLM publicly? 

Given time, yes.  I think so. 

But I think he will wait until enough progress has been made, through the provisions of Summorum Pontificum and other facets of the Benedictine "Marshall Plan", so that it can be as irenic as possible, a source of more light than mere heat.

Therefore, pray that Almighty God grant our Pope length of days, health and strength, and that his enemies be confounded.

V. Let us pray for Benedict, our Pope.
R. May the Lord preserve him, and give him life, and make him blessed upon the earth, and deliver him not up to the will of his enemies. [Ps 40:3]

Our Father,…
Hail Mary,….

O God, Shepherd and Ruler of all Thy faithful people, look mercifully upon Thy servant Benedict, whom Thou hast chosen as shepherd to preside over Thy Church. Grant him, we beseech Thee, that by his word and example, he may edify those over whom he hath charge, so that together with the flock committed to him, may he attain everlasting life. Through Christ our Lord. Amen.

 

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Where’s the encyclical?

AmericanPapist made a good catch today:

 Pope’s next encyclical delayed until April 2009?!
That’s what it now says on Amazon.

Que pasa?

The encyclical in question is Caritas in Veritate or "Love in Truth"

 

And I bet I know what the problems are.

Translation… translation and translation.

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A breeze

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