Nothing “eccentric” about this theology! Nosirrie!

Whose theology is "eccentric"?

The Anglican Archbishop of Canterbury opined that for some (no doubt himself included) Benedict XVI’s provisions for Anglicans are "theologically rather eccentric".

This from the fellow who recently got together with friends for an ecumenical conflab for prayer on the eve of the Copenhagen climate change summit, 5 Dec.  (Lots of pics here.)

In a profound statement of solidarity with the planet, they donned gloves and "waved"… get it?  This is a theological "wave" for the planet, right?  Get it?

So, here are a few photos of the event.

High fives with the Archbishop of Westminster!

What’s eccentric about that?

And … some of their friends, who gathered with them to wave to the planet.

What?  No big puppets?

At this guy came.

And this clergyman. 

I especially like the green clergy shirt.

That’s not eccentric.  Noooo…..

Group photo time!

Anything eccentric about this theology?

Frankly, I don’t care if people want to gather in an ecumenical thingummy and, in the name of "churches" put on blue gloves and "wave" to the planet.  Really.  I don’t.  Have a nice day.

But if you are prone to do those things, maybe it’s better not to suggest that someone else’s theology is eccentric.

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  1. catholicmidwest says:

    I recognize those little gloves. They’re the stretch variety one-size-fits-all “magic gloves” marketed here in discount stores. They’re really nice to throw in your pocket as backups in the winter. I have several pair.

    However, they’re made in China under conditions that are not monitored in any way whatsoever for emissions, working conditions or fabric content. As a result you can get a pair for 2 or 3 dollars, less on sale, take your chances with quality. Mass production at its finest.

    Maybe these fanatics, for whom all this OUGHT to be a red flag, don’t realize this, or maybe they choose to ignore it. Don’t know.

  2. wanda says:

    OK, I’m really scared now.

  3. catholicmidwest says:

    PS I have a huge problem with climate freaks, who pontificate while enjoying the best that modern manufacturing and chemistry offers them. If they want to spout, then fine–they need to stand up, take off the polyester underpants, put down the fancy modern-grown food, turn off the lights and sit there in a cold stupor. I invite them to be coherent and then maybe I’ll listen. Or not.

  4. catholicmidwest says:

    PS, those gloves? They’re made out of acrylic, which is acetylated cellulose, a man-made substance. And those are synthetic dyes that make them bright colors. They’re knit in a factory–yes, a smoke belching type unregulated one–on a big knitting machine.

    Stupid climate change jerks.

  5. Nan says:

    catholicmidwest, I believe they’re $1.47 for 2 pr. at Wal-Mart, king of chinese products.

    They’re not concerned with what they’re doing; taking a clue from the Carbonhagen set, there are different rules for them and for us. We’re supposed to cut back and pay no attention to their double standard.

  6. catholicmidwest… calm down. Breathe slowly. You are driving up your carbon footprint and endangering the planet!

  7. catholicmidwest says:

    You are correct, Nan. I think the point of “climate control” doesn’t have anything to do with facts. Rather, it’s about pushing people around and politics. It’s the modern American mindset that everyone must be forced to do things in unison.

    I like my carbon footprint, Fr Z. It means I’m alive and breathing this Saturday afternoon. =)

  8. Nan says:

    Fr. Z, I suppose the next thing on your Amazon wish list will be carbon offsets…

  9. Catherine says:

    Poor Pope Benedict….that’s exactly how I feel! I’m back in the 60s. Yikes!

  10. Andy Lucy says:

    Two by two… hands of blue. Only just silly, not scary.

  11. TNCath says:

    Looks like an office Halloween party. That first picture of Archbishop Nichols and Archbishop Williams is just plain weird.

  12. caterham says:

    That fourth picture down caused my Gaydar to go into overdrive and caused a brownout in a 2 mile radius – do I need carbon credits now, or does the brownout cover it?

  13. Waving as they traipse down the path to oblivion.

  14. John 6:54 says:

    I’d prefer a hot planet with a cool after life verses a hot after life on a cool planet.

  15. JohnE says:

    “I especially like the green clergy shirt.”

    But it’s the eye-shadow and rainbow dreads that really complete the ensemble.

  16. archambt says:

    So are we saying environmentalism is bad, or just the particularly absurd, liberal-Protestant bent demonstrated here (and un-environmental exodus in Copenhagen)? Because it seems like common sense environmentalism (i.e. recycling, not driving everywhere if one needn’t, turning off light) are good things, especially for one’s health and pocket book (on the last two, at least).

    Or are we making fun of it because Rev. Williams is wearing funny gloves?

  17. The Cobbler says:

    I think I get it… the Anglican Church was drained through maximum internal bleeding?

  18. catholicmidwest says:

    Both, archambt.

    Rev. Williams is a buffoon. But besides that, the fashionable push for eco-sensitivity is a fad, a fraud, a giant pile of nonsense. Have you not noticed that the people yelling about climate change are all politicians? (CLUE #1) And that the math is either fraudulent or missing? (CLUE #2) And that we’re talking about global warming in the middle of a blizzard this week across the entire USA (CLUE #3).

    Of course, it always makes sense to take care of the world in a commonsense way like it always has been (don’t throw garbage in the lake etc), but this latest mania, in Europe and the US, is just that–a mania. My guess is that the motivation will soon become obvious or it will disappear–all but the TAXES.

  19. Kerry says:

    The trip to Hopen-Carbon-Hagen is the haj for the Apostles of the Most Hilly High & Silly Apostles of Gaia, (hi-fives be upon her). In my memory is a Monty Python skit wherein John Cleese screws up his face, pauses a second and says, “You people are looney”.

  20. catholicmidwest says:

    In flat everyday terms, I think it’s a way for governments to justify raising taxes. Tax money is fungible after all.

    Notice that India and China, currently huge polluters, are not signing on. Smart choice on their part, but then their rates of growth are doing a lot better than ours, because the world economy has shifted in the last few years. [Most Americans are just now noticing over the top of their soap operas and movie stars, but it may be a little late, actually a lot late.]

  21. Father Bartoloma says:

    Is this some kind of joke? A photoshop joke? Please tell me that this frivolity did not occur in real life.

  22. ssoldie says:

    They are all about as ‘goofy’ as algore, this world is no longer “Gods” it is now in the hands of the ‘goofy’s.

  23. Father, I thoroughly enjoy your website. Your tastes are quite eclectic. Can you imagine Rowan Williams meeting for twenty minutes with Benedict after his speech the day before on the necessity of ordaining women? What could they possibly say to each other? Our former N.J. governor, James McGreevey, an admitted homosexual, married twice and fathering a child in each marriage, effectively chased out of the Catholic Church by our bishops, will be ordained an Episcopal “priest” shortly. His male “husband”(?),”wife”(?), will be present at this “blessed”(?) event. Weren’t people of this cut relegated to performing in circuses and freak shows in the past? It is like reading a Flannery O’Connor novel.

  24. joan ellen says:

    Scary…Funny…Whew! In our family we say if we don’t laugh, we’ll cry.

  25. amsjj1002 says:

    Oh dear. I expect little from other groups, but I wish Westminster would remember that dignity goes a long way.

  26. Gail F says:

    If you’re waving to someone or something, aren’t you by definition somewhere else? So if these people are waving to the earth, then WHERE ARE THEY???

  27. JonM says:

    – FACEPALM –

    I guess the fact that hackers discovered that soc-called global warming data has been fraudulent was lost on these demonstrators. Or the fact that over a year ago the lead physicist whose equation because the lab coat for ‘CO2 is going to kill us’ racket declared that the hypothesis was fundamentally flawed and should be ignored. Or that fact that the same exact foundations promoting this anthropogenic climate change nonsense are also the ones who vigorously supported abortion, contraception, and eugenics in the last century.

    More concern should be directed towards, oh I don’t know, the collapse in Mass attendance and Confession in or how high profile converts openly rebel against the Magesterium and need to submit to Church teaching.

    Organize that kind of an event and I will wave, dance, do pushups, or whatever.

  28. antanas says:

    Thank you, thank you so much for that.

  29. DJR says:

    I’m not too comfortable seeing the Archbishop of Westminster at this event…I’d like to see Catholic priests (especiall prelates!) have a bit more dignity when it comes to this kind of stuff. Its one thing to participate in a “dialogue” or whatever on climate change or environmental protection as a representative of the Catholic Church…but to wear funny little gloves and act like you’re putting on a puppet show or something? Come on…

    St. John Fisher, pray for us…

  30. B Knotts says:


    When one scratches the surface of the philosophies of those pushing the climate change/carbon dioxide control agenda, one very quickly finds all sorts of nasty, and dare I say: anti-Christian, ideologies.

    One of the top priorities for many of these people is the widespread availability of contraception and abortion, especially in the third world. That’s because to these people, human beings are the problem.

  31. Supertradmom says:

    All I can say is “Wow”! But, then the British always love eccentrics. I have gloves just like those-99 cents at Walgreen’s. Is buying cheap gloves saving on carbon? I don’t know. The rate this family loses gloves, we probably are very guilty of adding to our carbon footprints, or should I say, hand-prints?

  32. Supertradmom: But, then the British always love eccentrics

    Then Archbp. Williams should love Pope Benedict’s theology. Right?

  33. irishgirl says:

    Vincenzo, you’re on target as always!

    Did the two archbishops switch clothes? Or this another photoshop job by Vincenzo?

    Papa Benedict looks like he’s saying, ‘Oy vey!’

  34. wanda says:

    I think it would be great to have a set of these photos printed up for our Holy Father, 8 x 10 glossy would be nice. Then..when anything ‘eccentric’ comes up in the meetings with Rev. Williams..our Holy Father could fan them out accross the table and say ‘ talkin’ to me?..

    Now then..let us resume our discussion on the requirements for re-unification.’

  35. Aren’t blue gloves eccentric for a green conference? Perhaps the particular shade of blue will be a point of debate at the next Anglican conference?

  36. Geremia says:

    Did you know that Obama’s science “czar,” John Holdren, a self-proclaimed “neo-Malthusian,” co-authored a book with Ehrlich, the author of the Population Bomb? Read what his solution to the climate “problem” is, and you will see that radical environmentalism values plants and animals more than people.

  37. thouart says:

    I guess they didn’t get the memo…..

    I think these guys would have rather been in NYC during
    another parade; that features rainbows.

  38. Hidden One says:

    “Church leaders in particular should be allergic to nonsense.”

    – His Eminence, Geroge Cardinal Pell, referring to climate change and carbon credits.

  39. Agnes says:

    Oh the humanity! Yes, it’s all about tolerance. Except for those silly papists. Let’s all wave at them and call them daft. Come now, everyone wave! There you have it! Silly Romans.

  40. Agnes says:

    “Ah-choo!” “God bless you.”

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