More queer Jesuit antics

Via California Catholic Daily:

New Santa Clara theology dean opened IgnatianQ Conference [?!? – This must be part of the nether-side of the rock movement to “queer” theology.  No, really.]

On March 24, CalCatholic published a press release from the Jesuit Santa Clara University announcing the appointment of Kevin O’Brien, SJ, as the new Dean of their School of Theology. Prior to his appointment, Fr. O’Brien had served as the Vice President for Mission and Ministry at the Jesuit Georgetown University. [Where they cover up the Holy Name when the First Gay President deigns to come.]

CalCatholic commenter immediately pointed out: “Last year, Dean O’Brien was a keynote speaker at IgnatianQ. ‘IgnatianQ: The Ignatian LGBTQ & Ally Conference is a student-led conference that focuses on the intersections of faith, sexuality, and social justice in a Jesuit campus context. IgnatianQ hopes to educate the whole person by creating safe spaces for dialogue, reconciliation, understanding, growth, and community building. The conference provides students with the opportunity to build their support network with students at Jesuit institutions all over the country as they continue LGBTQ work at their respective schools.’” [“continue LGBTQ work”…]

In a March 26, 2015 article promoting the IgnatianQ LGBTQ & Ally Conference, the Georgetown Voice quoted Fr. O’Brien’s endorsement: “Vice President for Mission and Ministry Fr. Kevin O’ Brien will give an opening address and prayer at the conference. ‘Campus Ministry supports the IgnatianQ conference because of its mission to deepen the faith lives of participants and build community across Jesuit universities.’” According to the Georgetown Hoya, the weekend included the 10th Annual Genderfunk Ball. [gag]

The orientation of the conference was homosexuality, not Catholicism. As the quoted mission statement says: “The conference provides students with the opportunity to build their support network with students at Jesuit institutions all over the country as they continue LGBTQ work at their respective schools.”  To unpack the sentence: the purpose of “build(ing) their support network,” the very reason for “the support network” was to “continue LGBTQ work.”  Not Catholic work. LGBTQ work.


Just so that you know.

Moderation queue is definitely ON.


Since I reading some nautical fiction of the same era, I am again reminded of the moment that that master of invective… Dr. Maturin, Stephen, in the Reverse of the Medal, flashed out some brilliance concerning Jesuits.  Context: Jack Aubrey has met a son, fathered many years before out of wedlock, but he is distressed to learn that he is godforbid a Papist.  He wonders if he was godforbid also trained by Jesuits.

Jack speaks to Stephen (a Papist, of course):

‘You remember the Gordon riots, and all the tales about the Jesuits being behind the King’s madness and many other things.  By the way, Stephen, those Fathers were not Jesuits, I suppose?  I did not like to ask straight out.’

‘Of course not, Jack.  They were suppressed long ago.  Clement XIV put them down in the seventies, and a very good day’s work he did.  Sure, they have been trying to creep back on one legalistic pretext or another and I dare say they will soon make a sad nuisance of themselves again, turning out atheists from the schools by the score; but these gentlemen had nothing to do with them, near or far.’

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  1. Moro says:

    In all seriousness, that sounds just like another, normal day at an American Jesuit university.

  2. CatholicMD says:

    I’ve been wondering for a while now if it isn’t time to say the Jesuits do more harm than good and suppress them. My other thought is is it better to keep them quarantined in one order rather than having them dispersed to dioceses around the world?

  3. Clinton R. says:

    The prayers St. Ignatius must say for the order he founded. The Jesuits are totally unrecognizable to him. How tragic that “Jesuit” has now become synonymous with heterodoxy and outright heresy.

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  5. Kathleen10 says:

    I hate to admit, I’ve given up hope on this front. Barring a divine intervention, we lost.
    There is no hierarchy that is going to demand this stop. (no pope, no Bishop, no Cardinal)
    There is no populace that is going to demand this stop. (no Catholics, no parents paying tuition, no Endowment Givers)
    It will go on until God doesn’t allow it.
    What little contribution to this madness can I make? I don’t give my money to the mainstream Catholic church anymore (Latin Rite only), and when I hear blah blah blah “social justice”, I’m out. The USCCB is dead to me, and anyone else who is talking, all the way up the food chain, with a very few exceptions. Frankly, I’m sick of all of them and the culture too.

  6. Alanmac says:

    I find it increasingly nauseating reading the Jesuits’ flagship magazine “America”. Every issue now high lights the trilogy of Jesuit goals, woman’s ordination, same sex marriage and celibacy. Eventually, they will get stomped.

  7. FL_Catholic says:

    I’ve always wondered what it is about Ignatian spirituality that causes so many of its adherents to completely lose their minds. Seems like it was good for the Church and the Jesuits from the time of Ignatius and for about 150-200 years or so afterwards but then it all went off the rails and has been plummeting ever since. Ignatius was a great man, a great saint! But it seems that he was the only one who could handle what was going on in his mind, it just drives everyone else who tries to follow in his footsteps to lose their minds.

  8. Benedict Joseph says:

    Thank you for reminding me that the moderation Q is definitely on, because there are a host of things we can add Q to today. I’ve always liked the letter Q because of its wonderful little tail. Now it occurs to me that maybe a little arrowhead at the end of it would be appropriate.
    IgnatiusQ. Whatever would he think of that coming from his sons? I suppose you could shorten it so that it appears less — offensive. Then it would be IQ. Hmmm. You could add Q to any number of letters of the alphabet. KQ, MQ, PQ, FQ…
    What would anyone make of it?

  9. iamlucky13 says:

    I like to think that these LGBTQ groups are focused on helping those who feel LGBTQ tendencies learn how to live out Christ’s teachings faithfully within the Catholic Church, so absent specific inappropriate homilies, speeches, events, etc, I try not to get too alarmed. Yet, I know the reality is probably not so lofty.

    Hmm…two very different O’Briens mentioned in the same post.

    I wonder how much this exchange between Aubrey and the doctor draws on real sentiments of the period and how much he is writing current sentiments into the 1800’s. What I mean is taht Aubrey seems to view the Jesuits the same way many modern non-Catholics do – shadowy conspirators who form the backbone of the Church’s illuminati. This is the same sort of nonsense that inspired Dan Brown, but I’m aware of authors who have taken it much further than Dan Brown. There’s a book out there masquerading as non-fiction that alleges to prove the Jesuits were behind JFK’s assassination. Another, older book claims the captain of the Titanic was a Jesuit templar or something like that who hit the iceberg deliberately in order to kill three major American businessmen who were aboard and opposed to the establishment of the federal reserve. These could be great works of comedy were it not for the fact that some people take them seriously.

    Meanwhile, Dr. Maturin views Jesuits the way many modern Catholics do – seeming to be affected by an exaggerated sense of intellectualism that leads them to such an abstract view of faith and reason that they’ll embrace just about any idea and try to contort the faith to fit it, leading other to apostasy in the process.

  10. HeatherPA says:

    Father Hardon was such a great and pious priest. Is he an exception to the Jesuits educated in the 20th century?

  11. Dave N. says:

    “I’m shocked, shocked to find out that X is going on at a Jesuit institution.”

    Note that Santa Clara’s school of theology grants pontifical degrees. Things could be done about Dean O’Brien if certain men in Rome were of a mind to–it’s certainly happened before. But my guess is that these particular men in Rome are not of a mind to do anything.

  12. I saw a beggar holding a sign yesterday that I think read, among other things, “Fordham University Graduate.” I was tempted to give him a $20 bill at that point and say, “You poor soul… it will take years to undo the damage. Take this and head for an extraordinary form Mass to get started.”

  13. Gail F says:

    iamlucky13: I’m not entirely certain, but I think that’s a correct opinion for the era. The English were not fond of the Jesuits because during the English Civil War they kept trying to convert people secretly, offer the sacraments, etc., and to do so came up with a famous way NOT to lie when caught and questioned, a way that is highly questionable (to say the least) to anyone who likes plain speaking. The word “Jesuitical” means someone who lies by telling a very cunning version of the truth, or at least one whose clever way of saying something leaves the truth in doubt.

  14. iPadre says:

    Pope Clement XIV ora pro nobis!

  15. de_cupertino says:

    Miguel Pro, Edmund Campion, Isaac Jogues. All Jesuits. Even Fr Fessio at Ignatius Press. Brilliant, faithful, and but the last, glorious martyrs for our Lord.

    Perhaps is the exceptions that prove the rule.

  16. Andrew D says:

    Like the LCWR, the Jesuits have no vocations and are dying out. There are other orders like the FSSP who take the Catholic Faith seriously, defend it and are flourishing with vocations. Vocations like the later deserver our prayers and financial support. The Jesuits are beyond repair in my opinion. They chose their path and are too blind to see they’re going the way of the do do bird.

  17. oledocfarmer says:

    What happened to the Jesuits? Pedro Arrupe happened.

  18. Magash says:

    There are still great Jesuit priest out there. The oddity is that in other dissident orders orthodox members are often punished or ostracized, sisters belonging to orders where the leaders are members of the LCWR have often suffered this fate, and given up their vocation because of it. The Jesuits seem to be so lax in their discipline that their response to orthodox members is, “Go do what you want. We don’t care.” So you have great Jesuits like Fr. Joseph Fessio who do great things despite being a Jesuit, rather than because of it.

  19. aviva meriam says:

    And people wonder why I don’t go to the Jesuit retreat centers….

    Yet more evidence that despite my son’s acceptance to my Jesuit Alma Mater, that isn’t where he needs to be next year.

  20. Sonshine135 says:

    The Jesuits are a conduit where I live for the type of nonsense. I keep reminding myself that this is why vocations to their seminaries have dropped by over 70% since 1954. When I listen to people talk about the “fact” that genders don’t exist anymore (this seems to be the latest argument), I tune them out in disbelief. If you aren’t even logical, there is no sense in me even listening to you. I have found this happening mainly with major news sources which are agenda/propaganda driven, but also with Jesuits and their deeply embedded toleration of sin under the guise of “caring”, “safety”, and “dialogue”. Sorry, I don’t dialogue with Satan, I shove an Our Father, Hail Mary, a Glory Be, and a prayer to St. Michael down his throat so he shuts up.

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  22. Joseph-Mary says:

    Ah, if only the Jesuits had again been suppressed in the 70s! Well, Cardinal Bergoglio may still have been elected pope but he would not be a Jesuit to boot.

  23. Peter Stuart says:

    I like to think that these LGBTQ groups are focused on helping those who feel LGBTQ tendencies learn how to live out Christ’s teachings faithfully within the Catholic Church . . . . Yet, I know the reality is probably not so lofty.

    It sure isn’t where I live. Despite my diocese having a Catholic population that places it in the country’s top 20%, it doesn’t offer the Courage Apostolate (despite once having done so, and continual prods to do so again), so I have to travel if I want a faithfully guided SSA support group. This while the very cathedral of my diocese is labeled a “gay-friendly” parish by heretical New Ways Ministry!

  24. mtpensaventus says:

    At Univ of Michigan, the Jesuit-run student parish/center has an LGTBQABCDE…&c. outreach “ministry”. Needless to say, I go to an SSPX chapel instead.

  25. jfk03 says:

    There have been and are many fine Jesuits. But today’s Jesuit order seems infected with the spirit of Modernism, that is, the spirit of the World. What I don’t understand is why the Holy Father — a Jesuit — does not have some ability to steer his own order in a direction consistent with the ancient teachings of the Apostolic Church. Surely he must be aware of some of the aberrations within Jesuit academia???

  26. Ellen says:

    My very orthodox parish priest often talks about Ignatius and his Spiritual Exercises. I can’t help but wonder if it’s the academic setting that has caused all the silliness in Jesuit colleges and universities. They have lost their identity and taken up the current post modern gabble. All I have to do is see the word intersection(s) in an academic article to know that the content is rubbish.

  27. Andrew Saucci said: “…I saw a beggar holding a sign yesterday that I think read, among other things, “Fordham University Graduate.”

    As a fellow survivor of FU, I would have added “And I’ll offer a week’s worth of rosaries for your recovery…’

  28. hwriggles4 says:

    I had a cousin that went to St. Joseph’s University in Philly – there was some LGBTQ going on there in the early 21st century. I went to a college run by the Marianists, and the Marianists have had a severe decline in vocations that a few years ago, they consolidated their U.S. Province into one.

    That said, there were some good Marianists, like Fr. George Montague, who stuck to his guns. By the same token, there are some good Jesuits, such as Fr. Fessio and Fr. Pacwa, who have basically been relegated to finding their own assignments. There are also some good Jesuits who are serving in the military (with permission from their Religious Superior to go to the Archdiocese for the Military Services) and there have been a few who for one reason or another left the order and were incardinated into a diocese.

    It would be great to see Fr. Pacwa as a Religious Superior for the Jesuit order, because he is very strong (I met Fr. Mitch Pacwa several times when he lived in Texas, he used to regularly visit our Catholic Young Adult Group) and sticks to his guns. Fr. Pacwa also commands a “manly” presence, and likes to hunt too.

    I’ve also heard that today in some of the Jesuit Provinces (I had a a couple good Jesuits at my parish over the years who were from the New Orleans Province) , the younger Scholastics are much more solid on theology and the life issues than quite a few of the Jesuits that are senior citizens. It’s similar to an orthodox seminarian getting assigned to do a Pastoral Year with “Fr. Yeah, Whatever who was ordained in 1977.”

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