A veritable banquet of rich and useful reading: @RobertSRoyal and Kwasniewski

This morning I awoke to a veritable banquet of rich and useful reading.

First, I direct your attention to a post at The Catholic Thing by Robert Royal, who never disappoints.  (He also writes about Dante. YAY! US HERE – UK HERE)

He begins with brief and laudatory comments about the recent Correctio Filialis. Then he drills in and hits gold.

Pope Francis, Fr. Martin, and Faith without Reason

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And there’s an even deeper problem, of which the seven false teachings are examples, [elencated in the Correctio] that’s beginning to characterize wide swaths of the Church.

We’re witnessing a period in which the Church is trying to have Faith without the full benefits of Reason. [In 1998 Pope St. John Paul issued an Encyclical entitled Fides et Ratio. It’s title harked to a homonymous Encyclical of the great Leo XIII.  These days we are witnessing concerted attempts to snuff out the Magisterium of Pope John Paul II.] This is odd, in a way, because it’s usually thought that the only Christians who forsake reason are impossible-to-reason-with fundamentalists. In the current moment, we have a progressive group in Rome and beyond that seems to think that Reason in any strong sense distorts or even blocks Faith.

They know the outcomes they want and aren’t about to let the logical contradictions theologians, philosophers, or ordinary believers notice, stop them.  [When questioned, they tend to respond with the classics, such as, “Don’t bother us with facts!” or issue explanations amounting to, “Shut up.”]

It’s an old philosophical truth that that once you abandon the principle of non-contradiction, you can prove anything. And here is proof positive.

For example, Father Antonio [“2+2=5”] Spadaro, S.J., of La Civiltà Cattolica has argued [NB:] that, as a good Jesuit, the Holy Father does not take something and explore its logical consequences, but instead looks directly at it and seeks inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Perhaps so (we can’t be sure that anyone really speaks the Holy Father’s mind).  [Spadaro, is really into Pier Vittorio Tondelli – he created his own website about him (HERE)]

But behold the confusions this leads to in the Church:

In Amoris Laetitia, as we’ve been told by various interpreters, sexual relations between the divorced/remarried are sometimes the best that can be done in the circumstances. That ceasing sexual relations may harm the family and the good of children.

[… Then he looks at Jesuit “celebrity priest” Fr. James Martin… ]

And is any teaching universally binding and Catholic if someone hasn’t “received” it? [Which is what Martin claims.] Once we go down this path, we’re very close to some form of radical Protestantism.

I do not know whether Pope Francis or Fr. Martin wish such an outcome. I do know that beyond the short radius of their ideas lie consequences they may find unwelcome.

Because neither is a serious theologian nor even a serious thinker, they regard anyone who raises questions about consequences as an irrational enemy (rigid, homophobic, etc.) rather than – as we’ve always had in the Church – someone trying to develop a deep and consistently rational way of understanding what Our Lord asks.

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I think Royal is on to something.

But now something completely different and wondrous in its own way.  As a matter of fact, I am going to print out the post I am about to name and tuck it into the cover of a book by the same writer.

After absorbing Royal’s piece, go to NLM and take in Peter Kwasniewski’s post, in which he responds to a question raised by his recent book Noble Simplicity  [US HERE – UK HERE] which I can’t recommend highly enough.

A questioner raised the idea that perhaps the greatest challenge to a reclamation of Tradition is not, in fact, heterodoxy, but rather doctrinally acceptable but anti-intellectual, amotionally enthusiastic Life Teen stuff.  The questioner then raised the “Benedictine–Jesuit divide in terms of liturgy”, in  light of St. Augustine and contrast of pride and humility, “objective” and “subjective” spirituality.  In a nutshell: For Benedictines, “Salvation comes through conforming yourself to the mediated image” whereas for Jesuits, experience becomes the ground of prayer and rubrics, etc.,  “put a damper on experience.”

Peter K responds masterfully.

WHY, I must ask, was Peter Kwasniewski not invited to speak at the Summorum Pontificum conference in Rome for the 10th anniversary of the Motu Proprio?  People need to ask that question.  The organizers of that good conference neglected to include a single Anglophone or American – North or South – speaker or liturgical actor, as far as I could tell, even though in the first talk of the conference we heard that the greatest growth of the use of traditional forms were in the Americas.  WHY the blinkered Eurocentrism?  But I digress.

Back to it.

Peter makes a good point, which echos what I have been writing for 10 years now, as a matter of fact, I first raised it on 14 September 2007, the very say Summorum Pontificum went into effect.

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Now let us consider worship as an action, and religious experience as a pleasure. [Or even “play”, which, like worship, Aquinas describes as something done for its own sake.]Liturgical action, when pursued for its own sake, i.e., in adoration and praise of God, is accompanied by the best religious experience. But if we seek the experience as our goal, we will be denied the experience at its best, which comes only from pursuing something nobler than a mere experience. Hence, the person who will be most delighted in worship is the one whose motto is: “I want to find God” — not the one whose motto is “I want to have an experience of God.[The deep point of sacred liturgical is to encounter transforming Mystery.  Hence, worship must stress the transcendent and not exclude the apophatic elements which are hard and challenging.]

One may draw a parallel here with marriage. [This is good…] If a partner begins with the attitude: “I want an experience of a deep relationship,” the marriage is doomed. If he or she begins with the attitude: “I want to do right by this person, no matter what,” the marriage can flourish. What is vitally important is that the aim be not some experience gained by using another, but simply the other himself or herself: he or she is the aim.[2] It is the same with having children. For a parent to think “I want to have the experience of being a parent/having a child” is a subtle form of selfishness. The parent who thinks instead: “I want to bring a child into the world for his or her own happiness” is focused on the good of the other and willing to sacrifice himself/herself to accomplish it.

The result of this analysis is that we should not set form or objectivity over against experience, as if they are in opposition. Rather, form, or a formal action, will always come with an experience. A higher form will come with a higher experience. A lower form will be accompanied by a lower experience.[3] This, I believe, is exactly what Augustine is saying throughout the Confessions and other works.  [This is a more sophisticated way of saying what I write and say in a jocular way: The newer form of Holy Mass and the Traditional form can be likened to the kiddie Mass and the adult Mass, or baby food and grown up food.  Before you freak out, consider that baby food is exactly what the young need!  It is great for them.  They don’t have to “work” to benefit from it.  As they get older, children need more and adults need more than that to satisfy.  Richer and more complex nourishment requires more and more work to prepare and then to consume and absorb.  It’s hard.  It is precisely in the hard elements and the work they cause that we have a preparation for the goal.  Catholics are now at widely differing stages of readiness to approach the encounter with Mystery which worship should propose, an encounter which is tremendum et fascinans, alluring and terrifying, precisely because the encounter makes us face our fear of death.  Hopefully they mature, sense the need for more, and seek it out.  Hopefully there will be bishops and priests ready and apt to provide what they sense they need!]

That a lower form will be accompanied by a lower experience is what we see in a phenomenon like like Life Teen.[4] It’s easy to get the immediate emotional experience; it requires so little in the way of form or action. But it is correspondingly shallow and unsatisfying for that reason, and must be repeatedly sought, perhaps with attempts made at intensifying the same experience. In this way it is somewhat like drugs, where people start with small doses and eventually try bigger doses or move to more potent drugs, because they are seeking more of that experience, more of that pleasure.  [Eventually, those who have the enthusiastic experience may grow up and need more.]

With traditional worship, it is quite different. At first, the form is lofty and remote, the action difficult for our nature. We may feel dry, at a loss, perplexed, even offended at the lack of consideration for our feelings and (what we think to be) our needs. We are confronted with the otherness, the strangeness of God. [YES!] But if we stick it out, something calls to us in our remoteness from Him. As we dwell with it more, it slowly seizes hold of us and lifts us up to a higher level, to higher perceptions of the truth of what we are doing and Whom we are dealing with. As this worship becomes more connatural, we experience more delight. [And we are dealing properly with timor mortis.] The delight does not grow stale or cloying but, in fact, builds upon itself without limit, because it is of a spiritual or intellectual order (although not separated from the physical domain). At the limit, beyond this life, we enjoy the beatific vision, where the experience and the objective reality, the form, are utterly at one.

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Okay, do you see what I mean?  A veritable banquet of rich reading today.

Also… BUY THIS BOOK.  Don’t hesitate, get a few copies if you can and spread them around.  Perhaps start a reading group and invite a few people who are not interested in the Traditional Roman Rite!  Reading this might move them towards a desire for richer fare.

US HERE – UK HERE

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“Se mi sbaglio mi corrigerete!”

From 16 October 1978:

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How a priest was changed by learning the Traditional Latin Mass

My friend Fr. Jeffrey Keyes, whom I just saw in Rome during the Summorum Pontificum Pilgrimage, with some of the wonderful Sisters in Santa Rosa, has this at his place.  HERE

He talks about learning the Traditional Form of Holy Mass, the Usus Antiquior.

I, personally, had no desire to learn how to do the Extraordinary Form.  My intention was to celebrate the Ordinary Form in the manner that Sacrosanctum Concilium imagined it: In Latin, with English readings and orations.  If it stayed the same Mass after Mass it would be in Latin.  If it was for this mass only it would be in English.  Of course, Mass would be celebrated “ad orientem.”

I learned the Extraordinary Form because a Bishop asked me to, telling me that there were 100 families in the region asking for it.  So in 2012 I celebrate my first Extraordinary Form Mass.  On a two week vacation I celebrated in the Extraordinary Form every day so that I could really learn it and be comfortable with it.

Three things happenedFirst, it completely transformed my priesthood and it affected the way I celebrated the Ordinary Form.  Every Mass became completely Christocentric.  Many people recognized this and it caused a greater spirit of prayer in believers. [THERE IT IS!  That’s the “knock on effect” I keep talking about!]Secondly, boys who served the mass began to think of vocations to the priesthood[Of course!] Ordinary boys who would play and roughhouse with great abandon became little soldiers of Christ with great seriousness in the celebration of the Mass.

Thirdly, it caused a reaction of visceral anger and anguish on the part of liberals who were now convinced that I was completely nuts. [I’ve written about this reaction before. Lately, HERE (scroll down).] Their angry letters caused my provincial superior to judge me in a manner that had little relation to reality. So from 3000 miles away he made decisions which changed the nature of the parish and disrupted my life.  And I am grateful.  Because I landed in a place that appreciates the Extraordinary form, that loves reverent prayer and even has 24/7 adoration.  And I am no longer subject to that provincial.

Fr. Z kudos to Fr. Keyes.

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Large group offers “filial correction” to Pope Francis for “seven heresies”.

Pope Francis book peekUPDATE: 23 Sept:

It is important to take all thoughts about this to prayer and perhaps with fasting.

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Be careful about what you ask for.

Pope Francis asked for “lío”.

He got some more public “lío”.

I had alluded to it with some warnings not to get too worked up about it.  Someone broke the embargo, which was a little low, but… now it’s out.

Download the Filial Correction or Correctio Filialis HERE

LifeSite has a good summary.

BREAKING: 62 scholars correct Pope Francis for ‘propagating heresies’

ROME, September 23, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) –  Expressing “profound grief” and “filial devotion,” Catholic clergy and lay scholars from around the world have issued what they are calling a “Filial Correction” to Pope Francis for “propagating heresy.”  [NB: Not fraternal.]

The Filial Correction, in the form of a 25-page letter, bears the signatures of sixty-two Catholic academics, researchers, and scholars in various fields from twenty countries. They assert that Pope Francis has supported heretical positions about marriage, the moral life, and the Eucharist that are causing a host of “heresies and other errors” to spread throughout the Catholic Church.

The correction was delivered to the Pope at his Santa Marta residence on August 11, 2017. No similar action has taken place within the Catholic Church since the Middle Ages, when Pope John XXII was admonished for errors which he later recanted on his deathbed.

“With profound grief, but moved by fidelity to our Lord Jesus Christ, by love for the Church and for the papacy, and by filial devotion toward yourself, we are compelled to address a correction to Your Holiness on account of the propagation of heresies effected by the apostolic exhortation Amoris laetitia and by other words, deeds and omissions of Your Holiness,” the signers write in the letter.

“As subjects, we do not have the right to issue to Your Holiness that form of correction by which a superior coerces those subject to him with the threat or administration of punishment,” they state.

“We issue this correction, rather, to protect our fellow Catholics — and those outside the Church, from whom the key of knowledge must not be taken away — hoping to prevent the further spread of doctrines which tend of themselves to the profaning of all the sacraments and the subversion of the Law of God,” they add.

The signers respectfully insist that Pope Francis condemn the heresies that he has “directly or indirectly upheld,” and that he teach the truth of the Catholic faith in its integrity.  [I suspect that His Holiness of Our Lord will not openly respond to this.]

They say that they make “no judgment” about the Pope’s culpability in propagating the seven heresies they list. They add that it is not their task to “judge whether the sin of heresy has been committed” whereby a person “departs from the faith by doubting or denying some revealed truth with a full choice of the will.”

The letter was made public today, six weeks after the signers received no response from the Pope.

Duty to correct

The 62 clergy and lay scholars explain that, as believing and practicing Catholics, they have the right and duty to issue such a correction to the Pope “by natural law, by the law of Christ, and by the law of the Church” and that the correction in no way undermines Catholic teaching on papal infallibility.

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“We adhere wholeheartedly to the doctrine of papal infallibility,” the signers state, adding that in their opinion “neither Amoris Laetitia nor any of the statements which have served to propagate the heresies which this exhortation insinuates are protected by that divine guarantee of truth.” The signers’ opinion that the exhortation is not infallible magisterial teaching is backed by leading churchmen, such as Cardinal Raymond Burke.

The signers list a dozen passages from Amoris Laetitia that they say “serve to propagate seven heretical propositions.

Included in the list is the “smoking” footnote 351 where the Pope writes that those living in an objective situation of sin can receive the “help of the sacraments” to grow in the life of grace and charity. Many have interpreted this to mean that civilly-divorced-and-remarried Catholics living in adultery can receive Holy Communion, and the Pope has endorsed guidelines allowing this. Also included in the list is the text pertaining to couples living in adultery who, the Pope writes, see their situation as “what God himself is asking” of them, despite falling short of the “objective ideal.”

The scholars say that these passages along with a number of “words, deeds and omissions” of the Pope are “serving to propagate heresies within the Church.”

According to the signers, the “words, deeds and omissions” of Pope Francis that promote heresy include:

  • Refusing to answer the dubia (five yes-or-no questions) submitted by the four cardinals (two of whom are now deceased) asking him to confirm that Amoris Laetitia does not abolish five teachings of the Catholic faith.
  • Forcibly intervening at the 2015 Synod of the Family where he insisted on inserting into a midterm report a proposal (that did not receive sufficient votes) to allow communion for adulterers and a proposal that pastors should emphasize the “positive aspects” of lifestyles the Church considers gravely sinful, including civil remarriage after divorce and premarital cohabitation.
  • Endorsing an interpretation of the exhortation by Vienna Cardinal Christoph Schönborn that allows for Holy Communion to be given to adulterers.
  • Affirming the statement of the bishops of the Buenos Aires region that allowed Communion to be given to adulterers, stating that “there are no other interpretations.”
  • Appointing to positions of influence within the Church men who publicly dissent from Catholic teaching on the sacraments, including Archbishop Vincenzo Paglia and Cardinal Kevin Farrell.
  • Allowing guidelines for the diocese of Rome to be issued under his authority that permit adulterers to receive communion under certain circumstances.
  • Leaving uncorrected the publication in L’Osservatore Romano, the official journal of the Holy See, the Maltese bishops’ interpretation of Amoris Laetitiathat allows communion for adulterers.

Seven heresies

The Catholic clergy and lay scholars go on to list seven “false and heretical propositions” which they say Pope Francis “directly or indirectly” upholds through his “words, deeds, and omissions.” These seven propositions, listed below, are summaries of the positions which they attribute to Pope Francis and deem to be heretical.

  1. A justified person has not the strength with God’s grace to carry out the objective demands of the divine law, as though any of the commandments of God are impossible for the justified; or as meaning that God’s grace, when it produces justification in an individual, does not invariably and of its nature produce conversion from all serious sin, or is not sufficient for conversion from all serious sin.
  2. Christians who have obtained a civil divorce from the spouse to whom they are validly married and have contracted a civil marriage with some other person during the lifetime of their spouse, who live more uxorio [as husband and wife] with their civil partner, and who choose to remain in this state with full knowledge of the nature of their act and full consent of the will to that act, are not necessarily in a state of mortal sin, and can receive sanctifying grace and grow in charity.
  3. A Christian believer can have full knowledge of a divine law and voluntarily choose to break it in a serious matter, but not be in a state of mortal sin as a result of this action.
  4. A person is able, while he obeys a divine prohibition, to sin against God by that very act of obedience.
  5. Conscience can truly and rightly judge that sexual acts between persons who have contracted a civil marriage with each other, although one or both of them is sacramentally married to another person, can sometimes be morally right or requested or even commanded by God.
  6. Moral principles and moral truths contained in divine revelation and in the natural law do not include negative prohibitions that absolutely forbid particular kinds of action, inasmuch as these are always gravely unlawful on account of their object.
  7. Our Lord Jesus Christ wills that the Church abandon her perennial discipline of refusing the Eucharist to the divorced and remarried and of refusing absolution to the divorced and remarried who do not express contrition for their state of life and a firm purpose of amendment with regard to it.

The clergy and scholars state that these “propositions all contradict truths that are divinely revealed, and that Catholics must believe with the assent of divine faith.”

They add that it is “necessary” that such heresies be “condemned by the authority of the Church,” on account of the “great and imminent danger” they cause to souls.

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Yes, there’s more.

Now what?

The moderation queue is ON!

I ask people to inform themselves before jumping in will all sorts of wild comment.

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23 September 2017

Here it is from Madrid.


The Sun is up and Virgo rises with the Crescent Moon at her feet.  The other orbs are above in Leo forming 12 in all.

Beautiful!

And they just closed the door to my flight.

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Sunday News? With some “correction”.

Rumors are bouncing and binging like pinballs.  Ooo the excitement!  What will it be?  Sites are rushing to talk about sources and possibilities.   How exciting it all is.  “I’m first!”

Sometimes that’s great and benign.  Other times you are hurting your cause.

What some of you eager beavers out there in tradblogdom don’t seem to get is that hype sometimes diminishes impact.

Not always – but sometimes.

This is probably one of those times.

New document? Sure have at.  But other – moves, keep your powder dry, as it were.

So, one of these days exercise a little control.  Don’t you get this yet?

If not, this is a little paternal – not filialcorrection.

UPDATE:

Not to worry.  Anyway, its out now, by someone who doesn’t respect embargoes… again.

One wonders what impact it will have, if any.

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My View For Awhile: Stars and Standards and Home

I am watching the sun rise on this portentous day from the Dreadful Airport of Madrid.


I am also using my spiffy app to see planets and stars.


This is the line up many people have been talking about.   Jupiter and Leo are already up.


Beautiful things in the sky.  Do they mean anything?  Who knows.

From my app

Also, at APOD there is a piece about two comets in the sky at the same time, on conjunction.  HERE

Just sayin’

Meanwhile, I’ve been in Spain with friends.

Few shots that you might like.

In Madrid I went to the Thyssen.  It is an interesting gallery with good pieces.  However an even stronger than usual secular attitude prevails right down to what  I perceived to be an anti-Christian sentiment in an exhibit on the Venetian Renaissance.

Anyway, here is a lovely Chagall.  The Virgin of the Village.

I really like Chagall’s stuff.

In the Naval Museum there is a large painting of the Battle of Lepanto. Here the angel is turning Pius V’s head and pointing. “Hey! There’s a vision going on… over here!”

Gazpacho.  Okay, I’ve had enough of that for awhile.

The sausages – butifarra are great.

And who can resist a bowl of snails?

San Jeronimo by the Prado.  Yes the weather was perfect the entire time.

Gins and Tonics are a staple here.  Gin and Tonics?  Gins and Tonic?  His hasn’t been conclusively resolved.  And Ive polled!

Red peppercorns in this one.  Nope.  Cucumber with Hendrick’s.

Carpaccio!

Which is mine?

Meanwhile, back in the Naval Museum, a grand painting of Christopher Columbus, so abused today.

On display for just a few days is the personal standard of Juan of Austria on his ship at Lepanto!

Very cool.

I spent two glorious days in the fantastic Prado.


For example.

Morales.  Not only an association of the Mother of God with her Son’s Passion but also a striking portrayal of motherhood.


This nun by Velasquez – I saw her in Paris – reminds me of someone I know who really needs to found an order… soon.

Lovely Murillo.

Stunning.  El Greco can take the air from your lungs.

As can Ribera.  I spent a good 15 minutes with this one.


Turn 180 and you see El Greco’s Trinity!

Soooo much going on in that painting.

Zurbaran.

Rising on the crescent Moon with a crown of 12 stars… just like we saw in the sky today!

And perhaps my favorite Nativity, by Barocci.


But now it is time to go home.


UPDATE:

Ooops.  Forgot to post this.

Anyway… next flight in a couple hours.

 

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Moving feedback from a “gay” reader

prodigal son detailThis is the kind of note that make all the flak worthwhile:

A thousand times, thank you for your blog. I’m a Catholic in no small part because of this blog. When I first entered the Church ten years ago, I fell under the influence of liberals who taught me it was OK to live in sin as a gay man. I fell away from the faith eventually. Through the years, my own conscience told me this was not the life I wanted to live.  Your faithful words have supported my decision to leave the homosexualist life, that was death. I could tell I was on the slippery slope again you spoke of last Sunday. Today I went to Confession and the FSSP priest (which I also learned about from your blog) reminded me that though this cross is “big and bloody and difficult,” the Lord will help me bear it. Thank you for standing up for the truth on which I have staked my life and eternal salvation. Please pray for me, as I do for you.

I am sure that God will bless this fellow a hundred fold for the suffering that he has had to endure in trying to live a good and holy life.  It is hard for me to imagine the trials people with such attractions feel.  However, I am convinced that if they bear their crosses and persevere, their place in heaven will be very high indeed.

Here’s another point.

When we fall and commit a sin, we can get back up again, go confession and move forward.    I say the same thing to straight couples who may be living together in an irregular situation which, for some reason, they can’t change, as I might say to a same sex couple: live continently and be ready to suffer, don’t put yourselves in occasions of sin if you can help it, again be ready to suffer, use the sacraments well, use sacramentals to help to keep off the attacks of the Enemy of the soul.

If you fall… get back up and keep trying.

Our Church is for sinners.  The only Church I want to belong to is the Church Christ gave to sinners.  This is not the Church of the pure, only.  We are all in this together.

If we ponder the gift Christ gave us as a Church, the effects of absolution are quite simply breathtaking.

With absolution, provided that you are sincere, that you’ve done your best to confess your mortal sins without intentionally hiding anything, that you want sincerely to amend your life, then…

Your sins are taken away, obliterated, gone from your soul never to be held against you. They are not merely covered over.  They are eradicated forever.  They are washed clean out of your soul by the Blood of the Lamb.  You might remember them (with sorrow), but they are no longer yours.  Penance must be done in reparation for them, but they have been irrevocably forgiven.

There is nothing that we little mortals can do that is so bad that that absolution given by the priest – who is Christ in that moment – can’t perfectly forgive.  Therefore, never hold back.

With absolution also come graces not to sin in the future.  God doesn’t just forgive us and forget us.  His care is ongoing through graces.  You can also call upon the baptismal and confirmed character that you have in time of temptation and trial.

Remember…

So, everyone, give thanks to God, for He is good, and His mercy endures forever.  I rejoice in this feedback, as Christ enjoins all to rejoice for conversion of sinners and the return of our prodigals.

FATHERS: If you don’t hear confessions, how can men like this amend their lives and live?

Finally….

GO TO CONFESSION!

 

 

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ASK FATHER: Permutations of the Novus Ordo according to options

Niederauer_LA_Novus_OrdoFrom a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Your recent post on ways to enrich the Novus Ordo has brought to mind something I’ve wondered for a while, how many different ways can Mass be said validly in the OF given all of the different options? e.g. just going off of 4 Eucharistic Prayers and yes/no on the sign of peace you’re already at 8 options.

Interesting question.  The number of permutations might be hard to calculate.

First, you would need to know all the variables/options.  Then you would have to figure which options negatively exclude other, subsequent options.  Then you would do the math.

However, in a simple series of options, without lots of exclusions, etc., the number can get big really fast. You mention 8 options. Let’s double that. Let’s say that there are 16 options.  There are way more than 16, but let’s say there are 16. So, 16 × 15 × 14 × 13 × … = ?

The total permutations are: 20,922,789,888,000

You decide.

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BOOK: Noble Beauty, Transcendent Holiness

UPDATE:

There is a good interview [HERE] of Peter K by Aurelio Porfiri, whom I just met in Rome.  It’s good.  Porfiri is a composer of sacred music.  At the Pontifical Mass in St. Peter’s for the Summorum Pontificum conference we heard his Mass and Te Deum.

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Against the back ground of present controversies, I’ve been thinking.

Again, NOTHING that we undertake as a Church will succeed unless it is rooted first and foremost in the proper liturgical worship of God.

Hence, I need to plug Peter’s book again.

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