QUAERITUR: Priest asked me to say Act of Contrition after getting out of the confessional

From a reader:

During Confession, the parochial vicar at my parish insists that I say the Act of Contrition after absolution, when I have left the confessional. So I say it in the pew prior to doing my penance. I think he wants to move the line along, but it seems strange to me.

It is not the norm, to be sure, but it is not unheard of.

The priest has to be reasonably certain that the penitent is sorry for her sins.  One could argue that the fact of the confession itself is the minimum adequate to convince him of the sorrow.   That, however, has to be the exception rather than the rule.  Hearing at least attrition during the Act of Contrition is the normal way that Father comes to reasonable certainty that you are sorry and have a firm purpose of amendment.

There are times when the line of penitents is quite long and the confessor is up against a scheduled event, such as the beginning of Mass at the top of the hour for a church full of people.  In that case Father might try to move things along so that more penitents can be heard.  That is usually why a confessor might occasionally ask penitents to say the Act of Contrition afterward.  Again, that is not the optimal practice, but, if you are sorry for your sins and made your good confession, it would not invalidate the absolution.  And during “high volume” times, that can get a few more people in.

This situation prompts me to remind everyone reading this not to “ramble” when there is a line of people behind you.  Be thoughtful!

Please, friends, be clear, be concise, be blunt, and be gone.   Get in there and confess those sins in number and kind, and include just the details that might aggravate or attenuate the sins.  Under the normal circumstances of regular confession times, priests don’t need the story of your life or account of your week.  It isn’t chat time.  Nor is it a psychotherapy session.  You don’t have to speed talk, like the disclaimers at the end of a radio commercial.  Just be clear, be concise, be blunt, and be gone.

To this end, examine your conscience beforehand.  Pretty please?  You should know what you are going to confess before entering the confessional.  Before, right?

And, please, pay attention to that request for “bluntness”, above.  Be blunt.  Don’t beat around the bush.  Use the clearest words, even if embarrassing.  “Father, I did ___ X times, ___’d X times, I failed to ___ although I must add that the house was on fire at the time, I ___’d my ___ X times….” etc.  There is very little that a priest hasn’t heard before.  He usually has no idea who you are, especially if you whisper.  He can’t reveal anything to anyone.  He usually – and this is something just about every priest you will ever meet can verify – he usually forgets what you told him even as he goes to the next penitent on the other side of the box.  It’s weird, but true… at least for me and priests I know.

Making a good confession regularly will help you with being clear, concise, blunt and gone.

In the meantime, if you are really nervous or haven’t gone to confession often for a long time, Father can help you out, but ask him to help you out so that he doesn’t wonder about intervening.  Be direct.

And please be patient and understanding with priest who try to get a few more penitents in before being forced to get out of the box.

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Every word he says is a lie, including “and” and “the”.

Today real marriage and true sexual identity was dealt a blow by one of the most dangerous institutions on the planet, the Supreme Court of these United States of America.

What was the reaction of “The First Gay President”?

Obama: I won’t make churches conduct gay marriages

President Obama, in his statement hailing the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn the Defense of Marriage Act, promised that he wouldn’t try to force religious institutions to conduct gay marriages.

“On an issue as sensitive as this, knowing that Americans hold a wide range of views based on deeply held beliefs, maintaining our nation’s commitment to religious freedom is also vital,” Obama said. “How religious institutions define and consecrate marriage has always been up to those institutions. Nothing about this decision — which applies only to civil marriages — changes that.”

[…]

Fr. Z responds:

To paraphrase the famous fight: Every word he says is a lie, including “and” and “the”.

This is the result of “creeping incrementalism”.

And it is not over.

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ROME: Sacra Liturgia Conference – Day 2 – Part Duh… errrr… Deux

Lots of French this afternoon at the Sacred Liturgy conference. I follow French well but… with the jet lag and the first topic… damn! I had to walk around and find coffee for to stay wakeful. And I find lots of French tedious, after a while.

So, I spent time reading Latin inscriptions on the walls. Rome is great for that.

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Tonight there was what passes for a “solemn” Mass in the Novus Ordo. Card. Canizares Llovera was celebrant for a concelebrated Mass. I was in choir.

Sorry about blurry images. Something is wrong with my iPhone camera which leaves me feeling… what do you call it again… anger?

You may be tempted to ask if the celebrant stood for this prayer. Yes. He did.

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This Novus Ordo Mass was about as good as the Novus Ordo gets. The music was good. The ceremonies reverent. It was MC’d well.

However…

What irks and disappoints with the Novus Ordo – all the time – is that a celebrant will start singing and then THUD stop singing and just speak the next part, higgledy-piggledy. The musical parts are all available. Celebrants could sing them. But…. la la la and then THUD.

This is a fault of the celebrant rather than the Novus Ordo. But the NO lends itself to this nonsense.

Fathers… learn to SING THE WHOLE THING!

THUD is what happened tonight throughout.

Another view. Again, sorry about the blur.

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After Mass – which was CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC – GRRRR AGAIN – I saw this scruffy bunch whom I had met in Boston during a recent visit.

They let anyone come to these conferences. (But they won’t let anyone in for MASS who lacks a ticket.)

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Great guys.

Then supper.

Zucchini blossoms, stuffed with anchovy and mozzarella and then fried.

If you have a garden with zucchini and don’t know what to do with all of them, get out there in the morning early, before the new blossoms open. Pick blossoms (zucchini abortions, I guess) and wrap them in moist paper towels and put them in the fridge for later. You can make all sorts of great things from them.

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Mixed seafood thingy.

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Saltimbocca. So ubiquitous in Rome as to be boring. And, I must admit, this version was a little boring. It didn’t “jump” as promised. But I managed to fend off death by starvation again… again too well.

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And so, after a grueling day of listening to excellent talks on sacred liturgy in three languages which I understand quite well, and having negotiated shops and eateries in the local patois, I return to my short-let apartment to do laundry and force myself to sleep … perhaps by reading some Hans Urs von Balthasar. Never fails.

I leave you therefore with a poignant quote I heard today, citied by Tracey Rowland in her near perfect address. With a measure of irony, Yves Congar, not exactly a trad from 1960:

“But we need only step into an old church, taking holy water, as Pascal and Serapion did before us, in order to follow a Mass which has scarcely changed, even in externals, since St. Gregory the Great, or we may open our missals at the pages which give the Paschal Tridiuum…Everything has been preserved for us, and we can enter into a heritage which we may easily transmit in our turn, to those coming after us. Ritual, as a means of communication and of victory over devouring time, is also seen to be a powerful means of communication in the same reality between men separated by centuries of change and affected by very different influences. Both as a lived action and as a ritualized action, the liturgy preserves and hands on to us elements which are much more numerous than were realized by those men who performed and preserved the rites, and actually handed them on to us: many more, even, than we ourselves can know. The whole Eucharist is given to me in its celebration, I myself possess it in its entirety, although I understand and could express so little of it…The whole of our love is expressed in the liturgical kiss, even if we do not really attend sufficiently to what we are doing. The whole of our faith is in the most ordinary sign of the cross, and when we say ‘Our Father’ we already imply all the knowledge which will be given to us only when we embrace it in the revelation of glory.”

UPDATE:

My view for a while…

Pontifical Mass to begin soon!

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SCOTUS v Marriage

Dreadful news from the Supreme Court:

Supreme Court strikes down Defense of Marriage Act provision

The Supreme Court has struck down a federal provision denying benefits to legally married gay couples.
The 5-4 decision found the Defense of Marriage Act unconstitutional.

UGH

“The federal statute is invalid, for no legitimate purpose overcomes the purpose and effect to disparage and to injure those whom the State, by its marriage laws, sought to protect in personhood and dignity,” Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote in the majority opinion. “By seeking to displace this protection and treating those persons as living in marriages less respected than others, the federal statute is in violation of the Fifth Amendment.”

Justice Kennedy delivered the court’s opinion, and was joined by Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan. Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Antonin Scalia and Samuel Alito all filed dissenting opinions.

We will be under serious attack soon.

 

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ROME: Sacra Liturgia Conference – Day 2

Day 2 of the Sacred Liturgy conference in Rome is underway.

The first talk this morning was by Gabriel Steinschulte on sacred liturgical music. He is the nephew of the late, great Msgr. Johannes Overath (a friend and colleague of my old pastor and mentor Msgr. Richard Schuler). Alas, he spoke way too quickly for the simultaneous translator to keep up well, a usual problem with Germans at international conferences.

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The second talk was by Bp. Peter Elliott on are celebrandi. He was, as usually, informative and humorous. He paced his talk very well for the translators and even warned them along the way when he was condensing or moving to another page. Experienced and thoughtful!

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There was a nice break for coffee.

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We are back at work now, with a talk by Fr. Stefan Heid, about ancient Christian altars. My German is pretty good, but it is a bit rusty. I am alternating between viva voce and the translation device.

The twitter tag for the conference is #saclit

Stefan Heid dismantled the bad archeology and theology that drove the turning around of altars after the Council. It’s all fake. It makes me mad to think about all the money, the people of God’s money, wasted on a shame.

Tracey Rowland is up now. She is talking about how the Usus Antiquior can aid the New Evangelization and can be an antidote to secularism.
UPDATE

I’ll post some pics of well-known people, some of whom I have known for quite a while, some new a acquaintances.

Bp Schneider. He has made good suggestions for understanding better what Vatican II was about.

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Tracey Rowland, one of the best speakers so far.

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UPDATE

Waiting in choro for Mass to begin. Card. Cañizares Llovera celebrant.

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ROME: Sacra Liturgia Conference – Day 1

The long-awaited conference on sacred liturgy in Rome is underway.

We began with Vespers, sung in the Church of Sant’Appolinare near the Piazza Navona.

A shot from my angle.

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Tonight we begin with an introduction by Bp. Rey and an address by Card. Ranjith.

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Theme: The Sacred Liturgy, culmen et fons vitae et missionis ecclesiae.

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We are using Twitter tag #sacraliturgia or also #saclit

UPDATE

Michael Voris is stalking me.

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First Acton U, now here.

Following me around… hmmmm….

After the first session at a blognic, the first called, I think, by someone not-I!

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UPDATE

With my friend Jeffrey Tucker, chief of the New Liturgical Movement blog.

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Mystery Watch

What’s with this?

From the Daily Mail:

Mystery as century-old Swiss watch discovered in ancient tomb sealed for 400 years

Archaeologists are stumped after finding a 100-year-old Swiss watch in an ancient tomb that was sealed more than 400 years ago.
They believed they were the first to visit the Ming dynasty grave in Shangsi, southern China, since its occupant’s funeral.
But inside they uncovered a miniature watch in the shape of a ring marked ‘Swiss’ that is thought to be just a century old.

The mysterious timepiece was encrusted in mud and rock and had stopped at 10:06 am.
Watches were not around at the time of the Ming Dynasty and Switzerland did not even exist as a country, an expert pointed out.
The archaeologists were filming a documentary with two journalists when they made the puzzling discovery.

‘When we tried to remove the soil wrapped around the coffin, suddenly a piece of rock dropped off and hit the ground with metallic sound,’ said Jiang Yanyu, former curator of the Guangxi Museum.
‘We picked up the object, and found it was a ring.
‘After removing the covering soil and examining it further, we were shocked to see it was a watch,’ he added.
The Ming Dynasty – or the Empire of the Great Ming – was the was ruling dynasty in China from 1368 to 1644.

Doctor Hu?

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VP Biden, theologian and exegete, strikes again

I was sent a link to something at The Right Scoop: it is a video of Vice President Biden, theologian.  You will need an emesis basin or a bag of some sort if you watch it.

There is an annoying ad at the beginning of the video.

Biden: Giving illegals a pathway to citizenship is what Jesus said to do

Democrats will say ANYTHING to get their agenda accomplished, no matter how hypocritical it makes them look. In this instance, it’s Biden quoting Matthew 25:35 at the National Hispanic Prayer Breakfast to suggest that this immigration reform bill is not only the right thing to do, but it is what Jesus expects us to do.

The verse portion comes early so watch as much as you can handle:

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The same man who uses the Bible to say that illegals should be granted citizenship is the same man who wouldn’t defend their right to live before they were born. It’s the same man who would likely let them die if they were born alive from a botched abortion procedure. Yes, this is the man who is using the Bible to manipulate others to do his bidding.

Revolting.

What about Jeremiah 1:5?  “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you…”

What about Psalm 139:13? “For thou didst form my inward parts, thou didst knit me together in my mother’s womb.”

And aren’t there biblical verses about the evil of homsexual acts?

UPDATE:

Youtube has it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TIfEuu23vw&feature=player_embedded

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QUAERITUR: Convoluted scenario involving “whiney trads”, priest shortages, Magic 8-Ball, and dragon teeth

From a reader:

I have a hypothetical question for you related to Summorum Pontificum and the Bishop’s obligation to make certain those who wish to have the TLM can do so by supplying a priest as it relates to priest shortages and whiney traditionalists.

Hypothetical Scenario:  [Why do I have the feeling that isn’t so very hypothetical?]
Latin Mass Community X has been established for a number of years with a diocesan priest, and despite the really bad priest shortage in the diocese, the Bishop continues to supply one to the detriment of larger NO congregations. Despite ongoing talks with Traditionalist Priest Group B, there are not enough resources to have such a priest serve the Latin Mass Community. Latin Mass Community members don’t really want diocesan priests for petty reasons X, Y, Z and complain about having such priests.

In such circumstance, would a bishop be justified in taking away their diocesan priest and leaving them with no priest, at least until they change their attitudes, or would this be against Summorum Pontificum?

For this one I consulted Magic 8 Ball, which came up with the answer: “It is decidedly so.”

Since this is a hypothetical (surrrre it is!) scenario, I’ll say, yes, hypothetically.  On the other hand, maybe not.

Summorum Pontificum does not require the impossible.  If there aren’t priests willing/able to celebrate the older form at this time, then there aren’t priests to celebrate the older form.  This is not rocket science.  The bishop is not Cadmus, after all.

Summorum Pontificum, and the very heart of what Benedict was urging, seek that everything be done cum serena pace… with a spirit of serene peace.  If the mix of the priest (we can be real jerks sometimes) and congregation (it’s usually just a few that spoil things) at St. Ipsydipsy is irremediably bellicose then the bishop should pull the priest. If there isn’t another priest available and the people aren’t willing to work with the guy they had… too bad for them. They made their choice.

That said, in charity steps should be taken – by the bishop – to remedy this shortage and, thereby, provide for greater flexibility and more options in the future.

One way to remedy the shortage is to do what the indomitable Bp. Morlino did in Madison: he told all his seminarians – and I heard this with my own ears – that he expected them to learn to say the older form of Mass before he ordained them.  HERE

Lay people (the abovementioned “whiney traditionalists”?) can be of great help also by sounding out priests who are willing to learn and then pay for them to go to a workshop at St. John Cantius in Chicago or held by the FSSP.

A note about “whiney traditionalists”.

There’s whiney and then there’s whiney.

If by “whiney” you mean constant snarky moaning about everything, then I have no sympathy.

If, however, you mean persistent, diplomatic, cordial, pressure, that’s another thermos of soup.

When liberals and progressivists and iconoclasts whined for something, they were given all manner of consideration for decades.  When traditionalists begged, pled, prayed for their legitimate aspirations (cf. John Paul II’s Ecclesia Dei adflicta) they were ignored, insulted, sent to the back of the bus for decades.

In this era of Summorum Pontificum – Benedict XVI’s Emancipation Proclamation – I am tempted to apply the concept of “affirmative action” (or “positive discrimination”) and say that the Novus Ordo parish should get the short end of the stick.

Have I mixed enough metaphors yet?

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New FSSP parish set up in Minneapolis!

I confess that I am a little shocked.

His Excellency Most Reverend John Nienstedt, Archbishop of St. Paul and (of my hometown) Minneapolis has entrust a parish that was to close to the FSSP!

Brick by brick! Parish by parish.

Here is Archbp. Nienstedt’s letter

Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ,
I am happy to announce that the parish of All Saints of Minneapolis will have a pastor and an associate to serve you beginning next month.
minneopolis-all-saints5As you have likely seen and heard in parish communications over the past few months, the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter has offered to send two of its members to care for the parish of All Saints, which has been without a pastor for more than a year. After consultation with your parish trustees and your parish pastoral council, as well as the presbyteral council, a representative body of priests from across the Archdiocese, I have accepted the Fraternity’s offer.
Father Peter Bauknecht and Father Simon Harkins will begin their service at All Saints onJuly 3, 2013. Fr. Bauknecht will serve as pastor.
As you may know, the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter is a Catholic Clerical Society of Apostolic Life dedicated to providing Catholics access to the extraordinary form of the liturgy according to the liturgical books of 1962. You can find out more about the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter at their website: www.fssp.org. Mass in the extraordinary form will be offered at All Saints. Mass in the current form to which you are accustomed will be offered, as well. A Mass schedule will be established, in consultation with All Saints parish leadership.
Please join me in welcoming Father Bauknecht and Father Harkins. I will be praying for these priests as they begin service in your parish and I ask that you join me supporting their work through prayer, as well.
With every good wish, I am,
Cordially yours in Christ,
Most Reverend John C. Nienstedt
The Most Reverend John C. Nienstedt
Archbishop of Saint Paul and Minneapolis
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