Over the top interview with Card. Kasper on the eve of the Synod

Yet another interview with Card. Kasper is available for your … what… edification?

His Eminence gave an interview to Il Quotidiano.  My translation:

“We will reach a wide consensus. I am not Nostradamus, but I believe, I hope that the line of mercy about access to the sacraments for the divorced remarried can be approved next year by a majority of bishops in the assembly”.  [Sounds like a candidate for office on the eve of the election, no?  And note the point of “mercy”, which by now is a manipulation word. Who’s against mercy, right?] On the eve of the Synod on the Family, a preparatory meeting in view of the ordinary, deliberative meeting of 2015, the tensions between progressivists and conservatovies are more and more inflamed. Especially under attack is Cardinal Walter KAsper, who carries the liberal flag. Favorable toward admitting the remarried to Communion after a period of penance, [… blah blah removed…]

Q: Cardinal, they say that you are attacking the indissolubility of marriage.

KASPER: This is a complete falsehood, doctrine isn’t being touched.  [“la dottrina non si tocca”] In play here is ecclesiastical discipline, or the application of principles. It is on this point that there is need for a reform in order to meet those to have wounded hearts.  [When you change discipline, there are unintended (or intended?) consequences.  Isn’t the Catholic practice of, say Friday abstinence, these days bring many spiritual fruits to the Church and isn’t it enriching our Catholic identity before the watching world?  … No?]

Q: How is this even of the Synod going for you, which finds you between protagonists after the direct nomination of the Pope?

KASPER: I am quite calm, dialectic has never been lacking even in Vatican II. At the end of this synodal road I foresee, and with some compromise, as often happened in the Council, that the thesis of mercy will pass. [The “thesis of mercy” v. … what?  The “thesis of cruelty, legalism, ideology”.]

Q: Until now, however, the voices raised have been nearly completely raises against Communion for the divorced remarried.

KASPER: Muller, De Paolis and Burke have the right to express themselves, Francis wants there to be a serious debate. That said, they are not alone.  [“They are not alone….” Ooooo!]

Q: Is Muller’s strong opposition an attack on the Pope?

KASPER: I don’t know if it is a conspiracy (congiura). Even at Vatican II the Prefect of the Holy Office, Ottaviani, was not in agreement with the Pontiff, John XXIII. So, let us avoid exaggeration and focus only on the divorced remarried. [Apples and oranges.  Ottaviani wrote to the Holy Father about his concerns.  Also, there is a qualitative difference between a mere Synod, and an extraordinary one at that, and the work of an Ecumenical Council.]

Q: Moving to couples living together. Are these a sign of the times or not?

KASPER: They are, [and why is that?  Is it, in part at least, because the Church’s teaching and practice have become muddled?] and for that reason the Church must announced the beauty of the Gospel also to those who are not married.

Q: Does that include homosexual unions?

KASPER: They are not families, [Activists and Fishwrap are going to love that one!] but, if lived with seriousness and fidelity, they have their own value. [What does that mean?]

Okay…. let’s play this out, off the interview page for a moment.

Q: Multiple wives?

A: We need to learn from our Muslim brothers. The more the merrier. God permitted the Hebrew Bible patriarchs to have many wives at the same time. Why not now?

Q: What about removing the Church Tax so that everyone in Germany can approach the Church without paying for sacraments?

A: Non si tocca!

My concern, partly validated here, is that, after this extraordinary Synod does little or nothing, we are going to have a whole year of liberal grinding in the press and pulpits, thus raising expectations of huge changes.  And then, when Francis doesn’t do what they want, the revolt really breaks out into the open.

You will say that liberals are already in revolt against the Church’s teachings and disciplines.  Sure.  However, when their hopes are dashed they will break whatever tethers still remain.

And let us not forget that the Synod can do nothing but talk.   They can vote on anything, say, that French croissants are better than Roman cornetti.   In the end, they can recommend things to the Pope.  The Pope decides.

 

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Lack of transparency during the Synod. A problem?

I am soooo glad that I’ll arrive in Rome with my pilgrimage group after the Synod is over.  I really wouldn’t like to be covering at all from a “press” point of view.

For instance, I noticed at Fishwrap this info tid bit in a piece about the Synod and the spiffy way it is being run by Card. Baldisseri.

Vatican: Synod will be ‘original and innovative,’ but with limited public information

Okay that’s just the headline. But are you already thinking, “Original and innovative? What could go wrong?”

Let’s move on.

Baldisseri, the secretary general of the Vatican’s office for the synod, spoke Wednesday at an event at LUMSA University, a private university in Rome located just east of the Vatican.

The event, one of many hosted in early October by diverse interest groups hoping to have impact on the synod discussions, focused on presenting viewpoints of accomplished women of faith from around the globe regarding struggles stemming from changes in family life.

But it will likely be largely unknown what impact, if any, those groups — or even the petitions of Catholics around the world — will have on the bishops gathered in synod. [Up until this point we’ve been reading blah blah. Now watch!] The Vatican press office announced Monday that no texts from the synod discussions would be released. And unlike in previous synods, no printed summaries of the daily discussions are to be issued, either. [Hmmmm.]

Instead, the press office will host daily briefings with Vatican spokesman Jesuit Fr. Federico Lombardi, who will be present during the synod meetings and is expected to brief reporters in Italian on general themes discussed each day. [On “general themes”?  Oooo!  That’s be helpful!   “Today the Synod on the Family discussed matters relating to and of interest for the family, from the point of view of the Church in modern times.”] He is to be assisted in those briefings by three priests and one woman who will summarize the events from inside the synod room* in English, Spanish, French and German.

[…]

Fishwrappers are probably worked up that they won’t know anything about the impact made by the suggestions of the liberals and dissidents in these lobby groups which are probably hounding the synod participants.

On the other hand, why would they adopt this new method for the Synod?  We are all suppose to accompany the Synod in prayer.  Is this a matter of “Shut up and pray!”?
“Never mind what the Synod participants are saying (about you) behind closed doors!”

Someone who is suspicious might ask (as some are asking in email): Are the interventions (speeches) to be made by the Synod participants secret?  Is there any accountability issue involved here?  Is there any worry that somehow, if the texts of the participants interventions are not made public, they might somehow be “disappeared” or edited one way or another for “correctness”?

 

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My View For Awhile: Windy City Edition

I’m on a road trip.

Hmmmm… usually these vans are following me.

Right now I am in Chicago, at St. John Cantius.  Yesterday and today I gave some conferences on sacred liturgy.  We have had two, count ’em two, Solemn Masses in the Extraordinary Form (what else).  Tomorrow I another.

St. John’s in an amazing place.  Everywhere you look, in every nook and cranny there is something amazing.  I think that if there were a churchy version of that show about hoarders, it would be shot here.

First, the church is beautiful.

These are the vestments we get to use tomorrow.  They have scheduled an “external” celebration of the Feast the Holy Rosary.

 

Only the best for the most beautiful thing we have.

I should mention all the wonderful people I have met on this trip.  Many people who are readers here introduced themselves.  It is fun to meet you.

I also must mention a couple things that struck my fancy.    First, the canons here (Canons Regular of St. John Cantius) invented a game for the kids to play in the large grassy lot behind the church.  It is a combination of something that looks like competitive frisbee and team hand ball.  It is called “Canon-ball”.

And then, in the rectory I spotted this.  What rectory is complete without something like this?

This stupid drinking bird gets to be a Monsignor, while I….  Oh well.

This is a great community of men with a fine, clean, happy spirit.  They have a solid, directed life of prayer and works and they are going strong.

This is a great place.  What a gift to Chicago!

Meanwhile, in this city, on the South side, you find what has become my favorite Chinese restaurant in these USA.   (They don’t have Shanghai juicy buns to match one place in St. Paul, but they do have a few other things you wind up dreaming about.)   A couple shots, just to tease.

Eggplant in garlic

Crispy shrimp in orange mayonaise

Lamb with cumin

“Tony’s Chicken”

 

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ACTION ITEM: Help “The Tablet” with their SURVEY about the Synod!

The Tablet (aka The Bitter Pill aka RU486) is running a survey about the Extraordinary Synod of Bishop which is just starting up.

What do you say we give them a hand?  I am sure that they would want your voices to be heard, don’t you think?

HERE

Wait until you see see some of the survey’s choice options.

This is their blurb:

HAVE YOUR SAY [Okay!  We will!]
Take part in our survey on the bishops’ synod on the family

03 October 2014 15:11

Bishops from around the world are meeting in Rome from 5 to 19 October to discuss issues affecting the family.

A year ago the Vatican sent out a detailed questionnaire in which thousands of Catholics gave their views on issues such as marriage, divorce, single parenthood, gay relationships and contraception. Already in recent weeks, cardinals have openly argued over a proposal to reform the ban on divorced and remarried Catholics receiving Communion, but many other issues will be up for discussion.

What would you like to see from the synod? Take part in our survey. It will take around five minutes. We will be reporting on respondents’ views in our news coverage of the synod. Click HERE to start.

This is an ACTION ITEM!   Help them out.

But wait!  There’s more!

BONUS ACTION ITEM!

If you wanted to… I’m not saying’ you have to, or anything… but if you wanted you, you could comment on your favorite Q&A here.   I mean, think about how helpful some of those survey suggestions are!

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Fr. Benedict Groeschel – R.I.P.

I heard that Fr. Benedict Groeschel, CFR, died last night following recital of the Transitus on the Vigil of the Feast of St Francis.  He who was of the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal died on the Feast of St. Francis.  He was 81.

May he rest in peace.

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Liberals and the exercise of authority

When liberals, dissidents, progressivists, whatever, sense that things are not going their way, they rise up against the exercise of authority by the hierarchy.  “The institutional church is repressing the prophetic spirit-filled people!”, they cry.

When liberals (see above) sense that things are going their way, they rise up and demand that the hierarchy exercise their authority.  “It’s time to sweep away the rigidity of institutions through a spirit-filled exercise of power to do what we want!”, they cry.

I saw at Fishwrap that the perennial Sr. Joan Chittister has resurfaced with another spirit-filled prophetic column about yet another coalition of liberal change groups.   She is into groups of groups, I think.  Remember how she waxed eloquent about the Council of Elders after her Triumph in Tahir?  Come to think of it, it has been a while since Sr. Joan has given us a column.  I wonder if she has been in Iraq, negotiating for human rights with ISIS.   I digress.  Sr. Joan was chuffed about the group of groups that has gone to Rome to lobby the Pope and the Synod for “Change!”.   Here is a sample:

The joy lies in the fact that they are a sign that the church is taking the church in hand.

The disappointment lies in the fact that anyone could even think of having such a synod on such a subject and not invite them to be part of it in the first place. [It’s called the Synod of BISHOPS for a reason.]

[…]

Yes, I’d like to be sitting in the midst of them right now, but not to see the city — much as Rome affects me deeply no matter how many times I see it.

I don’t want to be with them simply to enjoy the pomp and circumstance, the street-side pizza, and the softness of the Roman nights, though I love all of those things.

[…]

This group, Catholic Church Reform, is there breathing one spirit, calling with one voice for the single issue that unites us all: the commitment of all facets of the church for the revival of the spirit of renewal in the church. Not just from the people up, but from the top down.

[…]

But wait!  There’s more.  Over at Crux there is a piece about the group of groups mentioned by Sr. Joan… which officially gives them far more attention than they merit, but let’s play the game anyway.  A snip that reveals their thinking (any resemblance to a bag full of cats is coincidental):

One recurrent theme in the meeting was a surprising note for many Catholic liberals, who over the years have called for tighter limits on papal authority. Now, however, they want Francis to be bold.

John Buggy from Australia, one of the founders of this group, said he’d like to get a message to the pontiff.

“I’d ask him not to wait for the bishops to catch up because he’s going to be long and truly dead before that happens,” Buggy said. “You’re the pope. Be the pope and tell them what to do.”  [Use your power to do what we want, but when you want us to do what the Church has always wanted for us then… power… not so much, thanks anyway.]

If presented with the same opportunity, Reed would express her disappointment over the misrepresentation of the broad spectrum of Catholic opinion in the synod. According to her, the vast majority of the people disagree with the Church’s teaching on contraception, homosexuality, divorce, withholding Eucharist from the divorced, but none of those have been invited.

“There’s not a single reform mind that’s been invited to the Synod,” she said.  [Given what they think “reform” is, I suppose we can reaffirm our belief that the Holy Spirit is involved after all.]

Liberals will accuse faithful Catholics of, for example, “politicizing” the Eucharist if we insist that we should apply can. 915 (which exists for a reason).   Recently, Card. Kasper accused some of those who have dismantled his own proposals of acting like “politicians”. That was during one of His Eminence’s many interviews with the press, including the secular press.  On the other hand, they think nothing of sending what can only be called pressure groups to Rome to function exactly as a political lobbyist.

So, keep your ears tuned and eyes open as you read the coverage of the Synod.

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Stunning Christmas Music CD – St. Paul’s Boys Choir, Harvard

Click to order!

Last year I had a wonderful experience at Harvard University as the celebrant for a Solemn Mass at St. Paul’s, which has the only Catholic Boys Choir School in these United States. It was a special occasion for them, too, as it turned out. They had cleaned out the choir loft and actually sang from the choir loft, which hadn’t been used for a very long time. I was told that the boys were pretty excited about being up there.

And it sounded glorious.  There are video clips of that Mass HERE  Fathers Jay Finelli and Thomas Kocik were there in choir!  Bloggers both.

I think that video from that very Mass was recently used in a TV serious about the Extraordinary Form.

The St. Paul’s Boys Choir has a CD of Christmas music.   It is available also in MP3.

UK link HERE

Here is a promo video about the choir.

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There’s nothing quite like a boys choir for purity of sound.

It might seem early, but I start planing my Christmas list early so I can focus on Advent later.

Also, early support of this disc would be great!

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ASK FATHER: Can bishop/rector forbid seminarians from attending Extraordinary Form?

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Can a bishop in a diocese forbid seminarians from attending the extraordinary form of the Mass?

This is happening in the ___ diocese. My friend who just entered this seminary informed me of this when I invited him to join a group our friends in attending an Extraordinary Form Mass. The decision was made to ensure that the seminarians develop a proper appreciation of the Ordinary Form. [?]

I don’t mean to come across as accusatory toward the bishop [or rector?] and I can see wisdom in trying to protect the seminarians from some of the radical traditionalists out there (although that isn’t the stated purpose of the ban), but this seems absurd to me.

I assume that the same bishop and/or rector also forbade seminarians from participation at the Divine Liturgy of Eastern Catholic.  Thus, they may not go to a Maronite or Ukrainian Catholic Church.  Think about it.  If seminarians are not permitted to attend a Mass in their own Church and Rite, how much less would they be permitted to attend Divine Liturgies of Eastern Churches and Rites?

Right?

This has a “Sieve and Sand” feeling to it.

As I have written before, it matters not a whit if a bishop or a rector has the authority -legitimately – to tell seminarians that they may not attend Holy Mass in the Extraordinary Form.

The only thing that matters is that they can throw men out of the seminary just because that morning they didn’t like their corn flakes.

They don’t have to give you a reason.  They wield power and you don’t. That’s that.  That is, in particular, how liberals work.  Get used to this harsh fact about our clerical world.

Seminarians! LISTEN UP!

If your rector or bishop has a “Latin Mass” phobia, fine.

Smile.  Be cordial.  Obey.

In the meantime, learn everything they teach, participate fully and cheerfully in the program of formation, and redouble your efforts on your own, discretely, to learn the Extraordinary Form.

Don’t make waves. Don’t put an interest in anything traditional (i.e., Catholic) on display.  Always participate well and properly in the Ordinary Form with not a hint of criticism.

You are not there to pass judgment on the formation program.  Get through it and make good use of the good elements.  Squeeze the orange (or lemon) for every possible good drop. Check off the days on your calendar.

As to the assertion that a “decision was made to ensure that the seminarians develop a proper appreciation of the Ordinary Form”….  I have to say something about that.

I don’t think there is a way to have “a proper appreciation of the Ordinary Form” without appreciation of the Extraordinary Form.

Seminaries often put on airs of being a grad school level program.  A decision to deny seminarians training in and access to the Extraordinary Form is like saying to an English major, “You are forbidden in this department from studying Beowulf, Chaucer, Shakespeare, or any writer until the late 20th century.  You may, however, study Vonnegut and Maya Angelou.  You may not the production of Hamlet being staged downtown or you will be punished.”  Forbidding participation in Extraordinary Form is like forbidding a German Lit major from studying German or reading Goethe… in German.  Disallowing the older form of Mass is like blocking an American History student from reading European History.  Forbidding the Usus Antiquior is like telling a med student not to study biology.   Telling seminarians that the TLM is off limits is like telling a music major that she can’t study solfège, or figured bass, or anything before Arnold Schoenberg?

I suspect that the formators, if they know anything about the Extraordinary Form, which cannot be assumed, don’t like the spiritual content of the older form of the Roman Rite, or what they imagine it to be, and what it means for the Catholic priesthood.

Here’s a good question: How many format ors of seminarians know how to celebrate the Extraordinary Form?  Shouldn’t they be able to?  Nemo dat quod non habet, after all.  And, by the way, review 1983 CIC can. 249.

At a certain point, someone, usually a representative of the seminary, will have to stand up at a diaconate ordination or a priesthood ordination and attest that the men are properly formed. If the ordinands don’t have a knowledge of their own Rite, can that attestation be true?

So, as I said, seminarians, be good.  Apply yourselves to your studies and be cheerful.  You don’t have a vocation to be a seminarian forever.  Priesthood is forever.  It is only a few short years away.  A lot can happen in a few short years.

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Philip Booth’s column in The Catholic Herald

I direct the readerships attention to an interesting piece in the UK’s best Catholic weekly, The Catholic Herald, written by Philip Booth who is the “editorial and programme director of the Institute of Economic Affairs”.

Booth comments on recent remarks made by His Eminence Oscar Card. Rodriguez Maradiaga on economic issues and goes on to make his own observations about the relationship of free markets, big government, poverty and unemployment.

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LESSONS FOR SYNOD WATCHERS

Here is a reminder about how men take care of differences.

Watch to the end, it is only about 1:30. The impatient can go to about 1:00.

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Yep. This is about right. Let’s have the fight.

And for those who don’t know anything about history, Synods are messy.

Who really prefers dealing with serious questions in a meeting as orchestrated as a convocation with Dear Leader in the Supreme Hall of the People?

Need a hint?

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