ASK FATHER: Should I consider permanent diaconate if I can’t serve the traditional community?

deacon_dalmatic_02From a reader…

My pastor and several bishops have urged me to enter the diocesan permanent diaconate program. I will be beginning my studies in Sacred Theology this September. But I am having second thoughts, mainly because I have been hearing opinions from priests belonging to Ecclesia Dei communities, that they dislike the concept of married deacons, and that they would not serve at the altar with somebody who is not committed to the sacrifice by living a celibate life. I am afraid, that the traditional community would not accept me. Must I now choose between the diaconate and being a traditional catholic? Are the two really not compatible?

I can’t speak to the attitudes of priests of “Ecclesia Dei communities” in your area.

However, it is just plain silly to suggest that permanent deacons are not able to serve – or shouldn’t be allowed to serve – in the traditional Roman Rite.

Deacons are deacons are deacons.

Of course there is a debate about married deacons and continence.  Ed Peters has made a strong case that married deacons should be continent.   The basic argument is this.  In the Latin Church clerics are bound by can. 277 to observe perfect and perpetual continence. This is supported by tradition.  All deacons are clerics.  Hence, all deacons, including married deacons, are bound to be continent.

I supppose that some priests of “Ecclesia Dei communities” in your area might add that, if the permanent deacons are not continent, they are not acting as deacons ought.  That being the case, they shouldn’t serve.  However, priests of “Ecclesia Dei communities” in your area can’t know how a deacon is living.  They presume to know what they can’t, and ought not, know.  So, do they commit the sin of rash judgment about the deacons whom they meet?

In any event, a deacon is a deacon is a deacon.  Transitional deacons are not “more deacony” than permanent deacons.

Furthermore, given that the Solemn Mass of the Roman Rite should be preferred to the mere Sung Mass or the Low Mass, and that they cannot be celebrated without an additional priest or deacon for the diaconal roll, what are these priests of “Ecclesia Dei communities” in your area trying to accomplish?

Subsequently, if you have strong concerns, give yourself some time and talk with your confessor and with wise priests who know the score.  And remember that priests of “Ecclesia Dei communities” in your area will be rotated out to serve someplace else… or at least that is what usually happens.

All these things having been considered, ponder deeply that you – as you say – have been urged to enter formation for the diaconate by “several bishops”.  That’s not nothing!  If bishops are asking this of you, pay attention.  Service to Holy Church may or may not include service in traditional forms of the Roman Rite.

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ASK FATHER: Deacons in Novus Ordo Masses

17_04_17_recession_01From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

Father, can you please shed some light on GIRM #171-173 (and there abouts), regarding the position of the Deacon during the procession to and from the altar?

We were instructed in the seminary to be in front of the priest. I am seeing more and more (even on EWTN) the deacon walking in procession to and from the altar NEXT to the priest. This seems to be wrong. It “appears” then as the Deacon is equal in all aspects to the priest. In fact, in my diocese deacons have been asked to not conduct any, so called, “Communion Service” because it “looks” like he is offering the Mass in the eyes of many of the laity. At Masses where the Deacon preaches, I have even heard parishioners say to the Deacon after Mass: “nice Mass Father.” And the Deacon, of course, never correctes them. Is the statement about being “next to the priest” meant for only within the sanctuary, or only as an alternative to being in front of the priest during the procession, as when not carrying the Book of the Gospels? I believe there is another part of the GIRM (escapes me at the moment) that states the Deacon exits the same way he enters. I would read that as, if entering carrying the Gospels in front of the priest, then you should leave in front of the priest even if not carrying the Gospels.

It seems, our “Uppity Deacons” today enjoy making issues of virtually everything.

Thank you Father, for your wise and much appreciated thoughts.

It has been a long time since I had a deacon for a Novus Ordo Mass, and it has been a really long time since I was a deacon for a Novus Ordo Mass.  I was deacon for a Solemn TLM last Sunday, however.   During that Mass I walked at the side of the priest on the way in and during the Vidi aquam, because he was in cope and because I had to carry the aspersorium. If there had not been a Vidi aquam I would have walked in front of the priest. I also walked at the priest’s side from the sedilia to the altar.  It was pretty clear that the priest was the priest and that the deacon was the deacon: we were dressed differently.  At the conclusion of Mass, I walked in front of the priest.   That’s how we do it in the Roman Rite… traditionally.

What does the GRIM say?

171. When he is present at the celebration of the Eucharist, a Deacon should exercise his ministry, wearing sacred vestments. In fact, the Deacon:

a) assists the Priest and walks at his side;

[…]

172. Carrying the Book of the Gospels slightly elevated, the Deacon precedes the Priest as he approaches the altar or else walks at the Priest’s side.

I believe the GIRM says that the deacon walks in front of the priest in the entrance procession when he carries the Evangelarium.   I suppose then that if he goes in in front of the priest, he should leave that way too.

Perhaps this is a chance for enrichment of the Novus Ordo.  Perhaps the more traditional entrance and exit would be a good idea.

I suspect that there are deacons who would like to jump in.

 

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As long as my blog reaches so many readers in so many places, let’s give each other a hand. We should support each other in works of mercy.

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ASK FATHER: Do I fulfill my Sunday obligation at an Eastern or SSPX church?

Russian_CatholicFrom a reader…

Are SSPX Masses and Eucharist licit for Roman Catholics? This Triduum was heart-wrenching as we had the “full band” (organ, piano, guitar, drums and cymbals) playing during Holy Thursday AND Good Friday!

There is no Tridentine Mass celebrated in my area. I have increasing doubts as to the validity of the NO. There is an SSPX parish several towns over, also a Ukranian Byzantine Catholic Church within 45 minutes of here. I love God, and I love my faith, but truly feel the NO has been protestantized (is that even a word?). Yes, I have spoken to our priests. Their responses were “I’ve heard that from several other parshioners as well”.

I’m sorry that you have had to suffer in that way.

Without question the Novus Ordo is valid.  The Eucharist is confected and Holy Mass is celebrated.  Sadly, the Novus Ordo lends itself to abuses.   However, it can be celebrated reverently and in a traditional way.  If it is possible to protestantize the NO it is also possible to traditionalize it. Way too much depends on the whims of the priest and those whom he designates to help.

And now to the question which has been answered here many times before.

Masses celebrated by the SSPX are valid.  They have valid Holy Orders.  They validly consecrate the Eucharist.  They undoubtedly celebrate Mass using a Catholic rite, since it is the legitimate traditional Roman Rite which was never abrogated, even with the introduction of the Novus Ordo.

The Code of Canon Law for the Latin Church says:

can. 1248 1. The precept of participating in the Mass is satisfied by assistance at a Mass which is celebrated anywhere in a Catholic rite either on the holy day or on the evening of the preceding day.

This means that if you go to a chapel of the SSPX on the day of precept (such as a Sunday) or the evening before and attend Holy Mass, you fulfill your obligation… silly claims to the contrary notwithstanding.

The Holy See has clarified that this is so.

Also, there is no question that you fulfill your obligation by attending the Divine Liturgy of a Catholic (not Orthodox) Eastern Church, such as the Ukrainian Catholic Church or a Maronite Catholic Church, etc.   They, too, celebrate in a Catholic Rite.  You may go to these churches and you may receive Holy Communion.  I suggest that you not be the first to present yourself for Communion if you are not familiar with how it is distributed.  It is distributed by the priest with a spoon directly into the mouth.  Watch others first.  Do not close your mouth on the spoon!  That’s a no no.   Attending Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgy can be a tremendous experience, especially when the choir and acoustics are good.

I have never recommended that people regularly frequent chapels of the SSPX.  A great deal depends on the priests of these chapels.  If they get the “wrong guy” as it were, people can undermine their unity with the Roman Pontiff by taking in the wrong message.  The risk of this erosion of unity could in part depend on the manner of preaching and many other factors.

Mind you, I think this erosion take place on a huge scale at “legitimate” parishes which lean liberal!   For decades, countless Catholics have been starved of sound doctrine and their faith eroded by dreadful worship.  It is a sad fact that the SSPX, which is so Catholic and reverent, must be… well… not avoided, but not entirely embraced yet, while there is no problem with going to a loony parish in manifest communion with the local bishop where all manner of soul-annihilating nonsense goes on unchecked.  It’s just plain sad, and I hope that this will soon be resolved.

I still will not recommend frequent reception of Holy Communion at an SSPX chapel – yet – unless the conditions of your life are such that it would be very difficult, physically or morally, to get to another church or parish manifestly in union with the local diocese and Rome, even if it isn’t ideal.  The obstacles must be serious, but they cannot be easily spelled out because the circumstances of people’s lives differ so much.

So, yes, you fulfill your Sunday Mass obligation at an SSPX chapel and at an Eastern Catholic church.

This question comes up fairly often and it bears review.

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ASK FATHER: Sunday Mass obligation when traveling to remote places

From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

I travel to many places that don’t have a church (e.g. remote areas of Nepal; Bhutan; Ladakh) so I can’t attend Mass. What do I do? Pray the Rosary?

This question has been answered many times, but here is a…

GUEST RESPONSE from Fr. Tim Ferguson:

There are two axioms rooted in ancient Roman law which effectively mean the same thing: Ultra posse nemo obligatur and Nemo ad impossibilia tenetur. No one can be held to the impossible. The Church has utilized this Roman law principle as well. No one can be obliged to do something which is impossible. If you are traveling in a place where there is not a Mass available, you are thereby not bound to attend the Holy Mass.

I can hear the indignant replies already: “Well, I take my Catholic faith seriously unlike everyone else. I would NEVER travel to a place where it would be impossible to fulfill my Sunday obligation!” or the plaintive, “Surely your travel plans can accommodate a quick flight to Kathmandu where the Church of the Assumption has Sunday Masses!” or even the strident, “If this person took his faith seriously, he would quit his job if it required him to be away from Mass on Sunday! Harumph! Harumph!”

Respondeo dicendum quod – the Church recognizes that, while hearing Sunday Mass is a serious obligation which should not be dismissed lightly, there are legitimate situations where a good and faithful Catholic finds himself or herself in a situation where attendance at Mass is not possible. The necessities of one’s employment, military service, the due (and legitimate!) cause of the occasional vacation, the human need to explore our world – even the very Christian task of spreading the Gospel to all corners of the earth, all of these things can leave one in a place where Mass is not held.

Mindful that one is not bound to the impossible, but also mindful of the grave obligation that one assumes upon being Catholic, one should firstly consult with one’s proper pastor or chaplain. They have the ability to dispense or commute the obligation (canon 1245). The Church also provides that, if attendance at Mass is not possible, taking part in a liturgy of the Word celebration be a priority, and if that, too is not possible, spending “an appropriate time in prayer, whether personally or as a family, or as occasion presents, in a group of families” (c. 1248, 2).

Were I the pastor in question, I would consider commuting the obligation to a devout recitation of the rosary as well as reading the Sacred Scriptures, especially the Gospel of the day and spending time in quiet contemplation if at all possible.

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A note about comments, moderation, etc.

I have to use the “moderation queue” feature for many posts.  I can’t watch what is going on 24/7 and I won’t allow the combox to descend into the horrid fever-swamp of the comments at, say, Fishwrap.   As a result, fewer people comment here, but we can live with the absence of the lack of brains and charity.

Also, only people who are registered here can post comments.  Again, that is to keep the knucklehead stuff out of sight, not to mentioned spammers, etc.

Remember also, that any comments that bring up in any way the moderation of comments are instantly deleted.  I don’t even read the rest, once I spot that.

Some people send me email with their comments.  That’s fine.   Some people even ask me to post them for them.  No.  Unless they are exceptionally good, no.  I have enough to do.

I am grateful for feedback.  I am grateful for voicemail (see the sidebar).  I am grateful for contributions, alerts, donations, heads up, etc.

On the subject of donations, today (25th of the month) is a really “thin” day.   Donations keep this blog afloat.  I’m just sayin’.

 

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I reject sexism in every form, and all its pomps, and all its empty works.

At the Fishwrap (aka National Schismatic Reporter) there is an interesting piece by our old pal Phyllis Zagano which merits a little – just a little – attention.

She never misses an opportunity to work in tidbits about the disparity of men’s and women’s presence in leadership roles in the Church, and she got in a dig about deaconettes (her obsession).  That said, her main point was about how the Holy See handles communications with the wider world.

I must admit that she got a lot of this right.  The Holy See’s communications operation is seriously messed up.  I’ll give Phyllis this point.  I believe she once worked in communications.  But I digress.

Zagano criticized Pope Francis for not naming enough women as consultors to the new Secretariat for Social Communications.  Except for the consultors for the CDF, I’m not sure that consultors do very much.  Still, how dare Pope Francis not appoint more women!

And then there is the FACT CHECK:

Fact check: it was the deacon Phoebe who carried Paul’s letter to the Romans. In today’s world, that could be called “release of information.”

First, Romans 16:1 doesn’t say that Phoebe carried any letter.  Some people – not everyone – extrapolate that she did.

Commendo autem vobis Phoeben sororem nostram, quae est in ministerio ecclesiae, quae est in Cenchris: ut eam suscipiatis in Domino digne sancti: et assistatis ei in quocumque negotio vestri indiguerit : etenim ipsa quoque astitit multis, et mihi ipsi. … And I commend to you Phebe, our sister, who is in the ministry of the church, that is in Cenchrae: That you receive her in the Lord as becometh saints; and that you assist her in whatsoever business she shall have need of you. For she also hath assisted many, and myself also [DR].

It was a commonplace in the ancient world to commend the one who carried the letter.  However, the text does not explicitly say that Phoebe carried the letter.  There is a strong chance that she did, but this is not in any way clear.  Maybe she did, maybe she didn’t.  We don’t have to accept this premise.

Furthermore, she wrote:

In today’s world, that could be called “release of information”.

Or, in today’s world, that could be called “carrying a letter”.

In other words, Phoebe was the FedEx guy.  Paul didn’t trust the Italian post… or the Vatican post for that matter.  Perhaps Card. Burke should have found a “Phoebe” when he sent his books to the members of the Synod of Bishops.  They were stolen out of the mail slots, remember?  HERE  But I digress.

Next, Zagano calls Phoebe a deacon, which is scriptural, but that confuses the issue in the present day debates about ordination of women.  It would be better to refer to deaconesses (deaconettes), to distinguish their ministry from that of the ordained, that is, male, ordained (real) deacons.

Then it goes blah blah for a while.  But, toward the end, the last few paragraphs…

The question is not so much what is true and what is false, but rather what people perceive as true and what people perceive as false.  The first thing that seems “false” is what the church says about women in relation to how it acts toward them.  [Isn’t that the same as what is true and what is false?  Anyway, if there aren’t enough women in the Secretariat for Social Communication, as consultors mind you, then the Church’s credibility is compromised… for Phyllis.  But it gets worse.  Her argument is that if there aren’t enough women involved, as consultors, then the Vatican’s message itself is not credible.]

That is the very serious problem the Secretariat for Communication and its units face. [Never mind the meltdown of Vatican Radio, the bizarre content of L’Osservatore Romano, etc. etc. etc.] If the messenger is not to be believed, then what happens to the message?  [So… because Phoebe delivered the letter it was somehow credible in a way that it wouldn’t have been had a man carried it.]

You think maybe everybody needs to remember who announced the Resurrection?

Ummm… it was the angel.

In any event, I reject the notion that the Church’s message is not credible simply because men announce it.

I reject this, just as I reject sexism in every form, along with all its pomps and all its empty works.

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Are you anxious, upset, confused about the Church today? Wherein Fr. Z rants.

Saint_Jerome_Writing-Caravaggio_(1605-6)_detailIn this time of confusion over doctrine and praxis, many people ask me in email what they can do either to maintain equilibrium, or else to “be the maquis”, as it were, and join the resistance against the liberal undermining of our Catholic cult, code, creed and identity.

Yes, I think that there should be a “resistance”, though not every one can “resist” in the same way.

The first step is, of course, to examine your conscience and GO TO CONFESSION.  Only after that can you determine your best course of action.

Some of you must be engaged in this struggle, either because of your ecclesiastical office or because you have the spirit and the firepower upstairs to engage effectively.  Some of you might engage on a wider scale, though your immediate concern is for your family and close circle.  Some of you must not engage actively because these debates and current news upsets you spiritually and brings only confusion fear and anger to your lives.

You have to figure out on your own who you are, though I’ll remind priests out there that their souls are on the line if they either go the way of undermining cult, code and creed or, tepid, shrink from the line of fire and cower in a hole.

That said, there is one thing that everyone can and should do.

Read, review, study the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

US HERE – UK HERE (There are many editions.  Look around.)

I am a huge fan of Kindles (US HERE – UK HERE), but you should also have the BOOK, the material volume which you can hold in your hand and write in.  Get the book, which you can flip around in and hold spots in with a couple fingers as you cross check.

Read it.  Pick it up. Read portions every day.

St. John Paul II called the CCC, “a sure reference point”.

Ignorance of the content of the Faith, the fides quae creditur, has lead to enormous problems. For one thing, it has turned lots of nominal Catholics into the dupes of liberals who are undermining the Church.

Possession of a copy of the CCC, and a solid familiarity with it, can be both shield and sword in the defense of your Catholic Faith.

Say you are living in the Diocese of Libville, where Most Rev. Fatty McButterpants
has gone off into doctrinal la la land.  You are stuck in the burbs and you can’t always drive for two hours with your kids to Tall Tree Circle were Msgr. Zuhlsdorf has the TLM.  Instead, you fulfill your Sunday obligation at the clustered, “Engendering Togetherness Community of Welcome” where Fr. Bruce Hugalot is busily churning out self-affirmed pantheists through sketchy preaching and dubious sacraments.

You, on the other hand, have the Catechism of the Catholic Church well in hand.

Ignorance of the Faith makes you a potential victim of the predations of the libs.

Tell me:

What would you think of a school where, in its basic chemistry courses, neither the teacher or the the students learn the Periodic Table of Elements?

What would you think of the school where neither the teachers nor the students in math courses know Multiplication Tables?

Would you go to a doctor who never undertook to learn basic anatomy?  A pharmacist who didn’t learn the basics of drug actions and interactions?

How about a barber who can’t cut hair?

Would you hire a plumber who doesn’t own a wrench?

See what I mean?

Another question:

Would you respect any of the above in their fields?

The CCC puts us on a sure footing.

And this is for you libs out there:

If in reading the CCC, you find teachings which you don’t agree with, not just which puzzle you but rather which you truly reject, then there’s the door.  G’bye!  Extra omnes!  Get. Out.  There are lots of “faith communities” out there with little or no doctrine where you can be right at home.  Go be happy somewhere else and leave us alone.

When you hear from the pulpit or some other place a dubious notion that rings an alarm bell, check your CCC.   Then you can decide to ask Bp. McButterpants or Fr. Hugalot what gives.  “You said X, but the Catechism says Y.  What’s with that?”

That’s not everyone’s role or cuppa, of course.   Many people will choose not to engage and, for those many, that’s a good choice.  Others, however….

Along with the Catechism of the Catholic Church you can review the always dependable Roman Catechism, the The Roman Catechism: The Catechism of the Council of Trent for Parish Priests.  Fathers… note the title.  Do you have a copy?  You should.  You should know this stuff like a mathematician knows his tables.  It’s basic.  And it’s not optional.

US HERE – UK HERE (There are many editions.  Look around.)

Also, make use of volumes of the wonderful Baltimore Catechism, which has different volumes for different ages (US HERE – UK HERE).  It’s so useful, in its Q&A format.   The Catechism of Pius X is also great.  (US HERE – UK HERE).  There are many good resources available.

However, make sure you have the Catechism of the Catholic Church.  

Some might say that the older the better.   Fine.  But if you are in a “dialogue” with Just-Call-Me “Bruce”, you need the current official Catechism of the Catholic Church.  If “Bruce” objects to anything in it, he’s toast… and he knows it, too, deep down.

Fathers, don’t be a plumber without a wrench.

Consider making an entire year of preaching based on the Catechism.  Go through it portion by portion, perhaps also with a weekly parish inquiry class on its content which capable lay people might help to run.

GET THE BOOK!

Do you have the book?

READ THE BOOK!

Thus endeth the rant.

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