Even though the culture wars are over and a new morning has dawned, I want you all to click HERE and read carefully a piece at the National Catholic Register by Anne Carey about the “Nuns on the Bus”.
The Nuns on the Bus, or NOBs, are going ’round and ’round again, this time palling around with pro-abortion VP Joe Biden.
Anne Carey is probably the most informed expert there is about the status of the question concerning women religious in these USA. She has a book which should be on the shelf of every person who ever has to deal with any nun for any reason anywhere.
At the NCReg piece, Carey writes about the latest chapter of the NOBs going-’round and ’round. The NOBs are out there, trying to turn out the vote for November primaries. Carey writes,
“Recent news reports about the 2014 Nuns on the Bus … are so bizarre they have me pinching myself to see if I’m really awake.”
Enter, from stage Left, pro-abortion VP Joe Biden, who is probably going to make his own White House run in 2016. He slavers praise all over the nuns’ lobby business called NETWORK, which helped give Catholic politicians cover so that they could vote for the Obamacare disaster, which they knew damn well could force taxpayer funding of abortion.
Sr. Simon Campbell, head of NETWORK and queenpin of the NOBs, is at the center of all of this.
And look for the mention of the LCWR.
Carey relates a set of jaw-dropping facts and, about midway through her piece, quips, “I can be forgiven for wondering why these stories had not come to light earlier if they are true, for Sister Simone does not have a strong track record of being factual.” Carey then continues her examination of Campbell’s bus-wreck like a NTSB agent dispassionately looking for body parts.
So, go read the piece… HERE.
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Why haven’t these women been ex-communicated or at least censured? Why can’t our Church at least remove the cloak of legitimacy from these obvious dissidents? The Church Throw the book at them and call them anathema!
Mea Culpa ! there should be a “needs to” in the last sentence…PIMF
Here’s my version of nuns on the bus: several orthodox orders get together and ride a bus through …well, probably any place in the U.S. would benefit. At each stop, a bunch of habited nuns gets out and does the following: prays the rosary, sings beautiful hymns (especially Marian in nature), and meet actual people in need of the Gospel and not just left-wing politicians. They would be manifest evidence that there are faithful nuns who “put not their faith in princes, in sons of men in whom there is no salvation.” Oh yeah: and they will radiate joy.
The amount of funding raised by Network has steadily raised since the Ns hopped On the Bus. Ann Carey notes: “According to GuideStar, the IRS 990 form for the tax-exempt entity funding Nuns on the Bus — Network Education Program — reveals that last year it took in $485,934 in contributions and grants, up from $345,752 in 2012 and $160,587 in 2011 (the year before Nuns on the Bus began).” NEP “community organizer” bedfellows are obviously well connected (just peruse NEP’s website to spot the tip of the iceberg). Saul, take from here:
“As an organizer I start from where the world is, as it is, not as I would like
it to be. That we accept the world as it is does not in any sense weaken
our desire to change it into what we believe it should be—it is necessary to
begin where the world is if we are going to change it to what we think it
should be. That means working in the system.”
Saul Alinski, “Rules for Radicals”
They have excommunicated themselves by supporting and perhaps even personally helping with abortions.
As to Biden, what a joke that he will run. I cannot imagine even the most liberal Catholics voting for this old and dotty man. I think the Dems will put forward Elizabeth Warren as the presidential candidate and unless the GOP can come up with a hit, she will get in, as many Catholics like her, sadly.
They have excommunicated themselves by supporting and perhaps even personally helping with abortions.
As to Biden, what a joke that he will run. I cannot imagine even the most liberal Catholics voting for this old and dotty man. I think the Dems will put forward Elizabeth Warren as the presidential candidate and unless the GOP can come up with a hit, she will get in, as many Catholics like her, sadly.
They have excommunicated themselves by supporting and perhaps even personally helping with abortions.
As to Biden, what a joke that he will run. I cannot imagine even the most liberal Catholics voting for this old and dotty man. I think the Dems will put forward Elizabeth Warren as the presidential candidate and unless the GOP can come up with a hit, she will get in, as many Catholics like her, sadly.
How is Carey’s claim that Sister isn’t known for being factual anything other than an ad hominem? (Please, this is a serious question, not a sarcastic slap).
This problem is taking care of itself. The LCWR orders have no vocations.
Nope- instead of censoring them, my diocese and our Catholic university give them an award! I wish I were kidding… but I got to read all about it in our diocesan paper today.
FTA “Also stretching credibility, Sister Simone continues to claim that the Nuns on the Bus are not political. It is very hard to swallow that argument after she was a featured speaker at the Democratic National Convention in 2012.”
Sister Simone’s book is titled “A Nun on the Bus, how all of us can create hope, change, and community.” Totes not political! She is railing against the Koch Brothers and “dark money” Yet,in an article in Religion News Service, she brags about raising $400K.
http://www.religionnews.com/2014/09/08/new-nuns-bus-tour-tackle-political-dark-money/
To Supertradmom:
The problem with self-excommunication is it is not public and does not require any action by the Church, and requires the faithful to actually be knowledgeable of what is a self-excommunication offense. Public scandal, especially one this outrageous needs to be specifically dealt with a public excommunication ceremony to leave no doubt in anyone’s mind that they are excommunicated and have to make amends. They can not claim they are “loyal” or “good” nuns.
To Dialogos:
That’s an effort I know I would help donate to…maybe we could crowdshare fund that. People need to see real nuns being faithful. Sounds trite but it is very true in these chaotic times
I’ve got the answer! Orthodox Tour 2015. Picture it: Sicily…I mean Cleveland 2015. Two buses and a truck roll up. Out of bus one comes a stream of nuns in habits chanting the rosary and singing litanies. From bus two we see a conglomeration of priests, some secular while others are from orders such as the MFVAs, FSSP and ICKSP. While the buses unload, the road crew unload a portable altar, altar rail, organ, chairs, choir risers, ect. and set up for Mass. The priests vest for Mass, which would be said ad orientem in the EF or OF in Latin depending on the assigned celebrant. All other priests would attend in choir or assist as Deacon and Sub deacon as needed. The nuns would assemble as the choir for Mass. Servers would be recruited from known local orthodox families.
“How is Carey’s claim that Sister isn’t known for being factual anything other than an ad hominem? “
You are correct. It is an ad hominem, but ad hominems are not always inappropriate. It would be dishonest to pretend that every person has equal credibility on all matters.
You don’t use ad hominem’s to draw conclusions, which is an informal logical fallacy, and you don’t use them simply to belittle a person, which is uncharitable. When honest and delivered in an appropriate context, they may present testimony to the credibility of a person making a claim, and provide a reason, not for outright dismissing their claim, but for questioning it until further corroboration can be found.
Such as when one of the largest media outlets in the country publishes a claim that the Church is trying to stop nuns from working for social justice. Here’s the quote from the NYT:
” the Vatican has deemed the women on stage with the vice president radical feminists who pay too much attention to social justice”
I’m curious if there is any quote from CDF that labels LCWR as “radical feminists.” I could see a statement along the lines of “adopting elements of radical feminism,” but there’s an important distinction between such quotes. Likewise, a person who has done something bad is not the same as a bad person.
More susbtantially, the Vatican is not “cracking down” on the LCWR for working for social justice, and the support for the ACA among consecrated religious was not universal (see, for example, Little Sisters of the Poor, Et Al. v. Sebelius), as is being claimed.
It was also well of Ms. Carey to bring up Sr. Simone’s claim that Nuns on the Bus is not political. Not only did they speak at the Democratic National Convention, but their parent organization Network, of which Sister Simone is the director, is a 501(c)(4) non-profit.
So while some democrats are trying to get archdioceses’ non-profit status revoked because of the good priests who talk about moral issues in their homilies without arguing for specific candidates or legislation, Nuns on the Bus participated in a convention for which the sole purpose is to promote specific candidates.
(Note, 501(c)(4)’s have slightly different political restrictions than 501(c)(3)’s. They can lobby politically for specific social welfare related causes, but a candidate is not a specific social welfare related cause, as their platform covers a broad range of issues. The IRS specifically excludes promoting candidates, either by direct endorsement, or by indirect means, which would describe participating in the DNC. From the IRS: “The promotion of social welfare does not include direct or indirect participation or intervention in political campaigns on behalf of or in opposition to any candidate for public office.”)
“Queenpin” …snort!…