ASK FATHER: Praying for the Holy Father’s Intentions

Mass purgatory indulgencesFrom a reader…

QUAERITUR:

When praying for an indulgence, is it better / okay to pray for Holy Father’s HOLY intentions, rather than simply his intentions?

These days it seems that – laying aside his published universal intentions – some of his intentions as implied by his actions are not ones that I want to pray for.

The conditions for obtaining an indulgence include praying for the Holy Father’s intentions.  That means praying for the intentions that he designates.  Right?  That seems fairly clear.

It may be that in a given month you know the intentions, or you don’t know the intentions.  In that case you pray in a generic way for his intentions.  One can, I suppose, pray for the Holy Father’s intentions in a generic way that is founded in our tradition, that is to say, for the sort of intentions that Pope’s have designated going way back.  That seems safe enough for a generic prayer for the Holy Father’s intentions.

When I answered a question about this once before, one of the comments included a great synopsis of the Pontiff’s intentions taken from Prümmer’s Manuale (vol. III, no. 556).  Prümmer says that “Intentions of the Holy Father” which we pray for in the course of obtaining an Indulgence, are a five-fold set which tradition (and the former Congregations) fixed as such, namely:

1. Exaltatio S. Matris Ecclesiæ (The triumph/growth of holy mother the Church),
2. Extirpatio hæresum (The rooting out of heresy),
3. Propagatio fidei (The propogation of the Faith)
4. Conversio peccatorum (The conversion of sinners),
5. Pax inter principes christianos (Peace among christian rulers).

None of these require any head scratching.

It seems to me that were one to be unaware of what the Holy Father’s assigned intentions were for a specific month, one could feasibly pray, in a generic way, “for the Holy Father’s intentions”, and have in mind, at least, those five intentions we have from tradition.

It is not very hard these days to find the Pope’s intentions each month, but we are not obliged to look them up.  After all, “fasting” from too much time on the internet is probably beneficial for us.

One should also pray for the Holy Father himself as well, not just for his intentions.

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More news of The Religion of Peace v. Christians

From The Christian Post:

ISIS Covers 3 Families in Tar, Burns Them Alive for Fleeing ‘Caliphate’

As IS continues to lose ground and suffer huge losses in its Iraqi stronghold of Mosul at the hands of Iraqi-led coalition liberation troops, the militants have been cracking down forcefully on residents fleeing from its various territories.

About two hours southeast of Mosul is the IS stronghold of Kirkuk, a town that members of three Iraqi families were recently caught fleeing from.

According to Iraqi News, an unnamed security source told the Iraqi satellite media outlet Alsumaria that the civilians were discovered on the roadside by IS and taken to the town of Hawija, about an hour west of Kirkuk, to be publicly executed.

“Daesh militants have burned to death 15 civilians belonging to three families from al-Shajarah village in Hawija,” the source said.

The source explained that the victims were covered in tar and then lit on fire. The militants warned onlookers that they would face a similar fate if they tried to escape from the IS stronghold.

Iraqi News reports that IS barred the victims from leaving central Kirkuk and the surrounding areas of the Saladin province.

The execution of the three families comes after it was reported last month that the terrorist group executed another family who tried to flee from Kirkuk. That family, which consisted of four children and a mother, was also burned to death in Hawija.

The militants allegedly tied up the mother and her children and then covered their bodies with oil before lighting them on fire.

The Islamic State terrorist group in Iraq burned 15 civilians to death, including children, after they were caught trying to escape from the so-called “land of the caliphate,” a security source has told an Iraqi media outlet.

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There is more.

This is a religious war.   It is a constantly morphing war.   It is asymetrical and spreading.

I recommend that you read Defeating Jihad: The Winnable War bySebastian Gorka. (UK HERE)  Mr. Gorka is now one of Pres. Trump’s advisors, which is a good thing.  It is good to have sober realists in the administration.

In his book, Gorka describes one of the reasons why these barbarians inflict terror.

According to the Pakistani general, there is only one target of importance in war: the soul of the enemy. The infidel foe must be converted to Islam or crushed. Lastly, since the only target that matters in war is the soul of the infidel, Malik concludes that the most effective weapon in war is terror. Here we see the relevance of his book to groups like Al Qaeda and ISIS. The enemy’s belief system must be utterly destroyed, and terror is the most effective way to do that. That is why 9/ 11 was so important. It is the highly symbolic suicide attacks, the crucifixions, the beheadings, the bombings of civilian crowds, and the videos of immolations that will destroy the will of the infidel to go on.

According to the Quranic concept of war, and because these terrorists are inspired to bring about the eschatological fulfillment of their religion, they wage war on the souls of the non-Muslim and, in their view, the insufficiently-Muslim.  Their war has an eschatological view.  They must destroy the spirit of their enemy.  This is why they use terror and why they commit atrocities which they record and broadcast.

Pray the Most Holy Rosary, which Our Lady heard with favor at the Battle of Lepanto.  Ask Our Lady of Victory to throw her protective mantle over all potential victims of the barbarians of terrorist jihad.

Sts. Nunilo and Alodia, pray for us.
St. Lawrence of Brindisi, pray for us.
St. Pius V, pray for us.
Martyrs of Otranto, pray for us.
Our Lady of Victor, pray for us.
St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle.

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And now for one of the dopiest things I’ve heard in a while

This is just plain dopey.

From that perennial purveyor of blech, RNS

‘Glitter Ash Wednesday’ sparkles for LGBT Christians and others

(RNS) Lighten up, Ash Wednesday.

A New York-based advocacy group called Parity is asking Christians who favor LGBT equality — “queer positive Christians,” in their parlance — to show their support by wearing “glitter ash” on their foreheads to mark Ash Wednesday (March 1).  [For dumb!]

Ash Wednesday kicks off the six-week somber season called Lent that leads to Easter, and is usually marked in churches with the color purple.  [Or, perhaps, a pastel?]  Traditionally, plain gray ashes, blessed by a minister or priest, are smeared on the foreheads of Christians to symbolize repentance.

“This is a way for queer Christians and queer-positive persons of faith to say ‘We are here,’” said Marian Edmonds-Allen, Parity’s executive director. “It is also a way for other people to be a witness to that and be in solidarity with them.”

[…]

Parity is mixing professional makeup-grade purple glitter with traditional ashes. The organization will send glitter ashes at no cost — though a donation is suggested — to any congregation or individual that requests them.

[…]

I don’t think I’ll order any.

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“…let him be anathema.”

This quote came up in the combox:

A reading from the 13th session of the Council of Trent:

“CANON XI.- If any one saith, that faith alone is a sufficient preparation for receiving the sacrament of the most holy Eucharist; let him be anathema. And for fear lest so great a sacrament may be received unworthily, and so unto death and condemnation, this holy Synod ordains and declares, that sacramental confession, when a confessor may be had, is of necessity to be made beforehand, by those whose conscience is burthened with mortal sin, how contrite even soever they may think themselves. But if any one shall presume to teach, preach, or obstinately to assert, or even in public disputation to defend the contrary, he shall be thereupon excommunicated.”

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Card. Coccopalmerio’s booklet: The Response™? Apparently not.

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Yesterday, I posted HERE about the release of the booklet by Card. Coccopalmerio, Prefect of the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts. It was ballyhooed as The Response™ to the Five Dubia of the Four “intransigent” Cardinals, who are dissenters because they are defending doctrine. The Cardinal’s booklet, which had a veneer of official approval because it was published by the Vatican Press, was to be publicly presented today.

Yesterday I made two main points.

First, the booklet cannot by any reasonable person be thought to be The Response™ to the Five Dubia of the Four Cardinals. The Response™ must come from His Holiness the Pope or, at his manifest behest, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

Second, the landscape we are looking at these days is surreal enough to be like a Salvador Dali painting. Things are getting strange.

They just got stranger today.

Card. Coccopalmerio did not come to his own book presentation. Instead, as reported by the best English language vaticanista in Rome now, Edward Pentin, the Cardinal went to a meeting of the Congregation for Causes of Saints.

Let’s be clear about something. In Rome, book presentations are not usually made by the author of the book. However, the author is usually in the room.

It it pretty odd that His Eminence was not there for the roll out of the booklet that was heralded as The Response™. Right?  And for a meeting at Saints?

Furthermore, according to a tweet by Pentin, the conference presenters openly said that the booklet was NOT a response to the Five Dubia!

Curiouser and curiouser.

Something is going on.

UPDATE:

CNS says:

Father Costa [Salesian, director of the Vatican Press, presenter] told reporters the cardinal’s book is not “the Vatican response” to the challenges posed by U.S. Cardinal Raymond L. Burke and three retired cardinals [NB: CNS singled out Card. Burke!  I suspect that Card. Caffara wrote the Dubia.  Why single out Card. Burke?  Obvious.] to the supposed lack of clarity and potential misunderstanding of “Amoris Laetitia.” [Why might one think it is not clear? Because, as CNS reports in the same piece, there are sharply contrasting statements about it by conferences of bishops?] Rather, he said, it is an “authoritative” reading of the papal document and a contribution to the ongoing discussion.  [So, it’s an “authoritative” reading and it is a “contribution”.]

Also from CNS:

Father Maurizio Gronchi, a theologian and consultant to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, told reporters Feb. 14 Cardinal Coccopalmerio’s reading of “Amoris Laetitia” is the same as the bishops of Malta, Germany and the church region of Buenos Aires, Argentina.

Moreover:

In writing that the church could admit such a couple to the sacraments with the “verification of two essential conditions — that they desire to change that situation, but they cannot act on their desire,” the cardinal said the verification must be done with “attentive and authoritative discernment” under the guidance of a priest. [Read between the lines: they still want to have sexual relations.  Somehow the must have sexual relations.  It seems that they are incapable of not having sexual relations.  QUAERITUR: Where is God’s grace?]

Does “welcoming the sinner justify the person’s behavior and renounce doctrine?” the cardinal asked. “Certainly not.”

It sure sounds like it does.

I am reminded of what canonist Ed Peters wrote about priests who would in some way, in the context of the internal forum, the confessional, recommend, condone, guide to, suggest, approve, hint that a couple in an objective state of adultery (divorced and civilly remarried, no declaration of nullity, etc.) could have sexual relations.  Those priests would be in effect commit the crime of solicitation in Confession (if for themselves, for someone else – it’s still solicitation!).   Peters wrote about the Coccopalmerio booklet today and he reminds us all of the point about can. 1387.  HERE

UPDATE:

In effect, it seems that His Eminence has suggested that the desire to change is enough to receive Holy Communion.  An actual change is not required.

I wonder how far that could be pushed.

[The screen fades to black and comes back up in an old fashioned church.  Zoom to the confessional across the nave.  The light is on.   A big, really big, guy with black hair goes into the “penitent” side.  Shift to inside.  The door of the grate draws back.  A priest wearing a stole is seen on the other side….]

“Bless me Fahdah, ‘cuz I have sinned.  It’s been maybe 20 years since my las’ confession and deez are my sins.   Ya’ see, it’s like dis, Fahdah… I’m in, you know, Our ‘Ting and I well, I kill people, ya see?  I don’t particularly like doin’ it, if ya know what I mean.  But, ya see, it’s my job.  I got into a little trouble with the ponies and da other stuff and … well, I got debts to pay, ya’ know?  So, I gotta keep killing people to make livin’.  Besides, some of the people I work with wouldn’t take kindly to me just stoppin’ an all.  But I really wanna go to Communion when I go to da Mass.  I mean, it’s been a while and I’m not exactly gettin’ younger, right?  Whadya say, Fahdah?  I keep hearin’ deez days about the whole mercy ting.  And, okay, you might say I’m kinda an expert on the opposite, ya know?  All that cryin’ and pleadin’ an’all.  It’s pretty hard.  I’m tryin’ ta be more mercyful.  So’s I try to do it fast an’ when they ain’t lookin’, just to be nice, okay?  So’s I was tinking that I could, maybe, just slip in quiet like when I go to another town for work, ya see?  Okay, Fahdah?  Whadya say?”

“Well, my son.  You are clearly not living in accordance with the Church’s teachings.  But you seem sincere and, well, you want to change. Right?”

“Oh yes, Fahdah, I really do.  Really truly.  But, like I was sayin’, I got debts to pay off and there are the other factors too, like my… associates, if you get my drift.  So, I really gotta keep workin’, capisc’?”

“Yes, yes… I see.  Well, if in your conscience you sense that you should go to Communion, and you really want to change, even though right now you can’t help it, even though you have to keep… um… working….”

“Oh yes, Fahdah, I gotta keep whacking dos’ guys.  It’s my job, an all.  But, like I said, I don’t really like it and I try to hit em when….”

“Yes, yes… of course.  Okay, my son, yes, you can go to Communion.  After all, this is the age of compassion and mercy.  Your conscience is all that matters.  But try not to kill too many people between Communions, okay?  You must make concrete and real progress toward your goal of not being a murderer for hire.  So for your penance, please think nice thoughts about your last, and your next, victim.  Do you know an Act of Contri… oh, well… I guess we can dispense with that.   ‘God, the Father of mercies….'”

[Fade to black.]

“But Fahdah! But Fahdah!”, some of you libs are squeeking, “Are you really making a comparison between a sexual act between two consenting adults and a mob hit?  Really?  This is outrageous!  You must hate Love, because you HATE VATICAN II!”

Calm down and wipe the spittle-flecks off your chin.

We are talking about mortal sins.  Right?  In this case, very mortal indeed.

But take another case…

“Bless me Father, I have sinned, it has been two weeks since my last confession.  These are my sins.  I am the owner of a good sized company with many employees.  But these are hard times in my industry, so I regularly defraud my employees of their just wages.  In our town, I am one of the most important employers, so most people there just have to take it, suffer the injustice.   And, well, I am going to continue to do it, too, because, well… it would be really hard if I don’t.  The company could go bankrupt and then… well… everyone would lose their jobs.  So, if I don’t cheat them, I’m committing an even worse sin, right?”

[Father, on the other side of the grate, nods his head slowly, brow furrowed in compassionate mercy.  Then, his expression changes to shock.]

“You are mistreating the workers?!?  What sort of man are you?  If you were only committing a sin like, I don’t know, adultery then I could say, well, I could say a lot of things. We could work with those while you receive Communion, in compassion and mercy because your conscience would be clear.  But THIS?  I just don’t know.  You must change your ways, my son.  It is not enough to want to.  This is the proletariat we are talking about here!  Workers, you know?  Being abused by a corporate fat cat!   No, no. You must STOP this before you can go to Communion.  Do you hear? Enough!”

[The penitent sobs quietly.  FADE TO BLACK.]

 

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Disaster always happen to somebody else. Right?

BOBEvery once in a while I post about BOBs, “bug out bags”.  It’s time again.

I received a note:

Here in Sacramento, Ca and outlying areas are in danger of life threatening flooding. Nearly 200,000 have been evacuated from Yuba Co. Area. There has been a breach in the Oraville dam. Family and friends have already been evacuated.

We are surrounded by 2 major rivers along with other small rivers and lakes. Highway 50, up the hill 35+ miles east has been shut down indefinately due to mudslides.

Needless to say, we are in need of prayer and divine intervention! More rain expected this week for 9 days straight.

I remember your warning ( God did not promise it would not flood, etc. in your area) and am preparing bug out bags with all necessities!

All who reads this blog have different circumstances.  However, disasters can strike any where.   Don’t deceive yourselves that it can’t happen to you.  It always happens to someone else… until it’s your turn.  Surprise!

Ask people from Joplin, MO what can happen.

Fires, flood, earthquakes, angry ex-boyfriends or husbands, storms… there are various reasons why one might need to bug out, and fast.

You should have a plan.   Plan where you will go.  Have an emergency bag packed and easily accessible.   Keep it stocked and fresh.  Go through it periodically so that you know what is in it and you know how to use everything in it.  If you have a family or others who depend on you, work through the plan with them and even walk through it: where to meet, how to get home, how to get out of your home, where to go for safety in your home, etc.

Friends, you simply must make plans along these lines, especially if you are responsible for the well-being of others.  You need a PLAN.  That plan and its preparation should include drinkable water, food, proper clothing, transportation and a place to go.  Don’t forget your meds, comms and self-defense.  A good medical kit is a must.

Depending on where you live, some of you will need more gear for being out in the elements.  Some of you will need more urban stuff.  There are some pre-assembled bags available, such as this one.  I’m not saying “get this”. It is an example: HERE

Could you stop what you are doing, NOW!, grab a bag, and leave?  FAST!

I’ll bet quite a few of you readers have made at least basic preparations.  You may have “go bags” or “get home bags” or “bug out bags”.

It would be interesting to hear what you have done for BOBs or even your everyday carry items.  Others could benefit from ideas.

As a related side note: consider getting one or more UPS to protect your electronic stuff (US HERE – UK HERE).  I also have a Juicebox from Hardened Power Systems (tell them Fr. Z sent you).

Remember: It always happens to somebody else… until it happens to you.

And… the ultimate plan and preparation…

GO TO CONFESSION!

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It’s hard to find a purer liberal ideologue than this one.

Last night on FNC Tucker Carlson had an exemplary guest.  It is hard to find a purer ideologue, deeper into Leftist tactics than this one.   Watch this for a lesson in what we will see increase as the Left gets more and more hysterical, both in civic life and… alas… in the Church.

So, here is your homework for the day.  The event that sparked the interview was the protest at Berkeley (“free speech”, right?) against a speech by Milo Yiannopolous.

In civic, secular life the frenzy is building because of the defeat of their darling and the shift away from their pet policies, such as open borders.  Their strategies about being thwarted.  In the Church, libs sense that they have a shot at victory for their ultimate aims: the overturning of the Church’s doctrine on anything having to do with sexual acts of any kind (more “open borders”).  Their agents, within and without, use similar tactics: vilify opponents, blatantly lie, require all to deny reality, use violence.  In civic life, that violence will be physical violence.  In the Church it is more likely to be persecution of conservative and traditional clergy by bishops and the curia, egged on by the catholic media and donors.

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13 Feb 2016: Justice Antonin Scalia – RIP – 1 year later

Today marks a year since we heard of the death of Justice Antonin Scalia at age 79.

Catholics traditionally pray in a special way on one month and one year mark after someone goes to God.

Pray for the Scalia family, remembering in a particular way our friend Fr. Paul Scalia.

Pray for these United States.

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Declaration of Council of 9 Cardinals: “adhesion and loyalty to the figure of the Pope and to his Magisterium”

This is from the Bolletino:

Declaration of the Council of Cardinals, 13.02.2017

The Council of Cardinals began its eighteenth session today.

At the beginning, Cardinal Oscar Andrés Rodríguez Maradiaga, coordinator of the group, after greeting the Holy Father, thanked him on behalf of all the Members for his words in the Christmas address to the Roman Curia on 22 December 2016, acknowledging his encouragement and guidance for the work of the Council.

In relation to recent events, the Council of Cardinals pledges its full support for the Pope’s work, assuring him at the same time of its adhesion and loyalty to the figure of the Pope and to his Magisterium.

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New booklet by Cardinal asserted to be response to the Five Dubia of the Four Cardinals

Dali_The_Persistence_of_MemoryIn the shallow, liberal, Italian Catholic weekly Panorama we are informed about a booklet now out over the name of Card. Coccopalmerio, Prefect of the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts.  It is ballyhooed as “the response” to the Five Dubia of the Four “intransigent” Cardinals, who are dissenters because they are defending doctrine.

Of course it can’t be that, can it?  The response to the Dubia should come from the Holy Father (to whom they were submitted) or from the CDF (whose Prefect has spoken unofficially about the issues but who hasn’t issued anything official).

Beware. When you read Panorama your IQ is likely to drop.  The use of verbs would help their writers come off as less smarmy.  But I digress.

Here is some of the piece in my fast translation.  My emphases  and comments.

In a little book on the reasons why the Church can’t turn back in the face of those who “are not in tune with Catholic doctrine”.

“Divorced and remarried, unmarried couples living together, are certainly not models of unions in harmony with Catholic doctrine, but the Church cannot look the other way. For which reason the sacraments of reconciliation and of communion ought to be given also to so-called wounded families[a euphemism intended to arouse emotion rathe
r than thought, empathy rather than clarity]
and to those who even though living in situations not in line with the traditional canons on matrimony, express a sincere desire to draw closer to the sacraments after an adequate period of discernment.” [Not just “canons”.  They are not in line with Christ’s teaching either, or the perennial doctrine of the Church.]

17_02_13_panoramaThis is the pointed, calm and precise response that Pope Francis gives [Noooo…. Pope Francis didn’t give it.  The Cardinal did.  But this is what they want you to accept.] to those especially within the church and even in the College of Cardinals, who continue to express doubts about the Post-Synodal Apostolic Exhortation Amoris Laetitia in which, for the first time, there is foreseen the possibility of admitting to the sacraments those who contract a second marriage, unmarried couples living together and those people who live together in deformity with ecclesial directions in the matter of nuptial unions.

An indirect response, in any event, [See the slight of hand?] but [BUT!] the fruit of a deep canonical and ecclesiological study made, at the request of the same Pontiff, by one of the closest and most trusted collaborators, Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio, President of the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts (the “ministry” of justice of the Holy See).

The text – a booklet of only 30 pages entitled, “The 8th chapter of the Post-Synodal Apostolic Exhortation Amoris Laetitia” – was printed by the Vatican Press and on Wednesday 8 February arrived in religious bookstores which surround the Vatican.

The Doubts of the Four Cardinals

An initiative, they [the famous “they”] explained in the Vatican, that aims to “clarify” all the “doubts” raised by the most traditionalist elements bound with a vengeance [How mean!  How merciless!  How … mean!] to the defense of ecclesial doctrine in the matter of matrimonial life and of access to the sacraments.  [What sort of surreal, Dali-esque landscape has the Church become if those who defend doctrine are suddenly the dissenters?  Clocks are melting off the sides of tables.]

[…]

To all appearances, like a “normal” request for canonical clarifications, [This is more slight of hand: the Dubia ask for doctrinal clarifications, not just canonical.  So, the respose from an official of a canonical office isn’t going to take care of the doubts.] in reality a gesture of clear though polite disobedience on the part of four members of the College of Cardinals the organism which by its very nature is called to back up the reigning Pope in the governance of the Church.  [“Those dirty rotten mean old cardinals!  They are mean old meanies!”  (That’s the general level of the reader of Panorama, by the way.)]

It is normal that if a Cardinal feels the need to have clarifications on certain matters he can ask for them calmly – they assure us across the Tiber – in the course of personal audiences with the Pope. It is another thing to publish an open letter and bring up doubts and discontents in public opinion. A clearly offensive gesture toward the Pope almost completely like those which are used in interviews. As, for example, the German Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, did in recent days, who, in a newspaper, openly criticized admission to the sacraments of couples living together and the divorced and remarried because, he admonished, Doctrine “is to be left alone” (la Dottrina “non si tocca”).  [Do you see what they did?  They smear Müller in order to raise Coccopalmerio above him as an authority.  Thus the Doctrinal Cardinal is out and the Canonical Cardinal is in.]

[…]

This is another confusing puzzle piece to deal with.  It is confusing because it has the appearance of official approval (it was published by the Vatican Press), but it remains a non-response response to the Five Dubia.  That’s probably why the ad hominem attacks lace the Panorama piece.

In any event, we still – prayerfully and patiently – await greater clarity from some with the true authority to issue what are manifest and actual responses to the Dubia.  Or else… we await a statement that they are not going to be answered.

Clocks melting off the edges of tables.  Elephants on stilts.  This situation is getting really strange.

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The moderation queue is, of course, ON.

If you think about offering a comment, please don’t rave.  It does no good for anyone (including yourself) and it will do harm (including to me).  Think before posting.  This isn’t a liberal fever-swamp.

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