GUEST POST: “Why I’m Not a Traditionalist (But We’re Going to Latin Mass Anyways…)”

From the blog The Back of the World, comes a blog post worthy of everyone’s attention.  I’ll add this fellow to my blog role.

Here it is with my patented Fr. Z treatment (you know… emphases and comments):

Hi, my name is Ryan. I’m 27-years-old, and I’m new to this diocese. And for the love of all that is holy, can someone please do something about all of the $@#!&* tambourine playing going on around here?!

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I apologize in advance if this post comes off as too much of a rant. And I should say this from the start: I’m not a Traditionalist Catholic. I’ve never found the criticisms of Vatican II to be very convincing, I’m a big fan of some theologians that Trads usually aren’t fond of (e.g., von Balthasar), I think that Pope Francis’ simpler style is (for the most part) pretty awesome, etc. I guess you can say I’m a “JP2 conservative”…faithful to the Magisterium, adherent to the hermeneutic of continuity, etc. All that to say, I was never interested in picking on the Novus Ordo liturgy…

But we’ve made a decision as a family to start attending the Traditional Latin Mass regularly. And here’s why:

When we were received into the Catholic Church, we lived in Boston. There, it was never hard to find a beautiful, reverent, Novus Ordo Mass. Life was good, and when I was on the right side of town, I even enjoyed the occasional Anglican Use Mass or Maronite Divine Liturgy.

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Last year, I read Pope Benedict’s “Spirit of the Liturgy” (a must-read, by the way), [Ahhhh… subversive literature!] and began to re-think a lot of the views I held on the liturgy. I began to agree with the need for kneeling to receive Communion, having the priest celebrate ad orientum, [ooops … ad orientem … but I can’t be too hard on this fellow.  I read recently a letter from a US bishop to his priests in which he all but forbids the use of Latin, the biretta, wearing a cassock, or celebration ad orientum – and he misspelled it three times.  It wasn’t a typo.etc. But, I have to admit, I didn’t see these things as really pressing issues, mostly because what I saw in and around the city of Boston was (for the most part) in keeping with the solemn nature of what we as Catholics believe to be taking place at the Mass.

Now, though, we’ve moved to the Diocese of St. Petersburg, Florida. And, if I may be blunt, the state of the liturgy around here is utterly atrocious.

Imagine seashell-shaped parishes filled with Baby Boomers dressed in Bermuda shirts and khaki shorts. Imagine complete strangers holding hands with each other during the Our Father. Imagine jamming out to contemporary Christian songs that were popular 15-20 years ago. Imagine all sorts of improvisations on the part of priests. Heck, imagine everyone getting called up to stand around the altar together during the Eucharistic prayers, rather than kneeling back in the pews–yeah, that happened! I was there!

It’s enough to make me want to scream: “People! We are attending the re-presentation of the once-for-all-sacrifice made for us on Calvary, and simultaneously realizing the eschatological Wedding Supper of the Lamb made present in the Eucharist! PUT DOWN THE TAMBOURINES! [Speaking of tambourines… HERE]

And so we attended the Latin Mass this past Sunday. [We could quibble and say that the Novus Ordo should also be “Latin Mass”… but let’s move along…] And it was breathtakingly beautiful. And you know, it wasn’t that hard to follow along in the missal. [Never has been… never will be.] And, in what is no doubt a bitter irony to the kind of people that like contemporary Christian music, at a Latin Mass of about 100 people, there were probably triple the number of young people than at any other Mass I’ve been to since we moved here

And maybe this will sound extreme to some of my readers, but I don’t really want my kids exposed to what’s going on in the Novus Ordo in this diocese. [Reason #6577 for Summorum Pontificum.  God bless Benedict XVI!] I think liturgy has a huge pedagogical component to it, and I don’t like what those liturgies teach my children. [Do I hear an “Amen!”?] I think they take away from the utter seriousness of what the Mass is, I think it says “this is just a Sunday get-together” rather than “this is a Holy Sacrifice”, I think it teaches that liturgy is about your musical preferences rather than worshiping God…Besides which, my two-year-old was way better-behaved than he has been at the Novus Ordo, [Many parents report that same thing!] and I’m sure that’s because he picked up on the reverent and serious silence, rather than looking at a guy his grandfather’s age rocking out on a guitar and thinking “aw man, it’s party time up in here!”

If this is where we are at, if this is what the Novus Ordo has become in some dioceses, then maybe the best thing to do is to hit the reset button and start from the beginning. [That is about reason #2 for Summorum Pontificum.] Maybe we need to all go home, re-learn the 1962 missal, then calmly re-read Sacrosanctum Concilium in about 5 years to learn what the Council actually said, and we can have this discussion again.

Until then, you can find me and mine down the street at the TLM on Sundays, reclaiming my heritage and birth-right as a Roman Catholic–i.e., good liturgy.

Fr. Z Über-Kudos.

If and when this fellow contacts me, I’ll send him a coffee mug and car magnet of his choice from my store.

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Bill Clinton blatant prevarication about voting and ID laws

At the Lincoln Memorial today, with Pres. Obama – The First Gay President – sitting nearby, former President – The First Black President – Bill Clinton:

“A great democracy does not make it harder to vote than to buy an assault weapon.”

ROFL!

US Federal law requires people who want to purchase a firearm, hand gun or longer-barreled, not only to show government issued photo identification, but also to undergo a background check!

Is that more demanding than what is required simply to vote? How many of you routinely undergo a criminal background check when you go to the polls?

Here is a summary of US Federal law concerning sales of firearms from HERE (p. 105):

Is there anyplace in these USA that doesn’t require a criminal background check to buy a firearm?

Clinton had to know this.  You can guess his game.

Close to the end of the video, about 2:30.

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“I have a dream…” is possible only when you are allowed to be BORN

I saw this on CNS (video link HERE):

Martin Luther King’s Daughter: ‘Life Begins In a Woman’s Womb’
August 26, 2013
By Penny Starr

(CNSNews.com) – Bernice King, the daughter of the late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., said on Thursday that “life begins in a woman’s womb.”

Women played a pivotal role in the civil rights movement, King said, “and so it all begins – as does life – begins in a woman’s womb.”

Speaking at the National Coalition on Black Civic Participation’s Black Women’s Roundtable event in Washington, D.C., to mark the 50th anniversary of King’s iconic “I Have a Dream” speech, King described women’s impact on the movement.

[…]

Sponsors of the event included Planned Parenthood and the National Latina Institute for Reproductive Health.

Does anyone else see the twisted irony in Planned Parenthood sponsoring anything that has to do with minorities?

And the National Latina Institute for Reproductive Health is radically pro-abortion.

Alveda King, MLK’s niece, said she would not vote for now-Pres. Obama solely because he is pro-abortion.

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Then they opened their mouths and removed all doubt.

There were some attacks on me over the last couple days because I (in a moment of stupidity) responded to a anti-Catholic bigot who had launched a mendacious attack on the Church.

In a moment of weakness, I cared.  Oh well.

The twitter attack was based on a story circulating that Pope Francis had allegedly “criminalized the reporting of sex crimes”.

Anyone with half a brain would realize that such a story was a complete joke.

That didn’t prevent some low-information types from having a spittle-flecked nutty for all to see on Twitter.

The problem is that they got their story from a parody, “satirical news” site, Newslo, rather like The Onion.  

In other words their brainless hate-filled attacks were based on a spoof, on a joke, on a prank.  A lie.

They were completely duped.

But wait! There’s more!

The site Strange Notions has the goods on the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science.  The oh-so-superior atheistic secular humanist elite fell for it too. They posted their brilliant observations on their Facebook page:

“According to the new laws, revealing or receiving confidential Vatican information is now punishable by up to two years in prison, while newly defined sex crimes against children carry a sentence of up to twelve years. Because all sex crimes are kept confidential, there is no longer a legal way for Vatican officials to report sex crimes.”

I think the Dawkins people removed their public prat-fall from their page.  Maybe one of you can find it again.

Remember, everyone, atheists are smarter than you are!

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NASA and Latin

This is pretty cool. From the Beeb:

Mars images to go on social media feeds in Latin
By Zoe Kleinman

Pictures of the surface of Mars, taken from Nasa’s Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO), are to be captioned in Latin on social media outlets as part of an outreach project.

The Latin captions will be published from 28 August on Tumblr, Twitter and Facebook.

The photography project is known as HiRise (High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment) and has run since 2006.

The Latin translations are being done by 18 volunteers coordinated in the UK.

“We were inspired by the Pope’s Latin feed,” HiRise spokesman Ari Espinoza from the University of Arizona told the BBC.

The then Pope Benedict XVI sent his first tweet in the ancient language at the beginning of the year and also used Latin in his resignation speech.

“Some of the science greats – [Johannes] Kepler, [Isaac] Newton wrote in Latin – this is a tie to the past but we’re looking at the future,” Mr Espinoza added.

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Pope Francis on St. Augustine’s Feast: Mass streamed LIVE today

Pope Francis say Mass today, 28 August, at the Church of St. Augustine in Rome.

The Mass will be streamed live via the Internet beginning at 5:55 PM CET, 10:55 AM CDT, 11:55 AM EDT.

To watch on the Vatican web site, go to http://www.vatican.va/video/index.html .

UPDATE:

I am watching this Mass.

It is clearly an international gathering, taking place while the Augustinians are having their chapter in Rome.  But… they are using Italian and Spanish.

If only there were some language we could use that could unite us across borders and national groups.

Also, aren’t those “sanctus” bells, sitting up on the edge of the altar?

UPDATE:

Interesting.  There doesn’t seem to be a papal Master of Ceremonies there.

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Whole new horizons of theobabble.

On Coast to Coast AM (the radio show) the other night they were talking about Martians living on earth.

As it turns out, Martians mixed it up with the Celts a long time ago. This is why there are Celts with red hair and green eyes!

I am not making this up.

Wait until the Leadership Conference of Women Religious discovers George Noory and Coast to Coast AM!

Whole new horizons of theobabble.

For years to come, they’ll find new candidates for the keynote address at their assemblies!  They will fit right in.  (HERE and HERE and HERE)

Just to make it easy for Sr. Florence Deacon, OSF, click HERE.  But here is a key paragraph … and there is something pretty ominous for the whole Church in this:

What the hell is this? Star Trek?

Basiago disclosed how his participation in Project Pegasus led him into the CIA’s Mars teleportation program. From 1980 to 1984 he said he would regularly visit a building in El Segundo, California, that was owned and operated by Hughes Aircraft. According to Basiago, an elevator in that building would morph from a box into a cylinder and then passengers could step out onto the surface of Mars. He claimed to have interacted with Martians and been taken to their underground civilization where he was taught about the various Martian typologies. Basiago identified the figure in the Martian head photo as Homo maris maris, a humanoid species indigenous to the planet with an elongated head, a bulbous crown, pointy ears and a spindly body. He credited photo analyst Patricio Barrancos of Argentina [ARGENTINA?] with finding the head and suggested it is corroborative data of the CIA’s Mars jump room program and his claim that Mars is inhabited.

If only Andrew D. Basiago, president of the Mars Anomaly Research Society (MARS!  Get it?), were SISTER Andrea.

By the way, have I mentioned lately that the LCWR rejected me?

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ACTION ITEM! Fr. Z CALLS FOR AN END TO DISCRIMINATION!

At WaPo, disgraced ex-priest and expert whiner Roy Bourgeois has an op-ed piece. Roy’s fundamental problem is that he sees ordination as a question of power and “policy”.

Here is a sample paragraph:

I saw the exclusion of women from the priesthood as a grave injustice and, in good conscience, I could not remain silent. The punishment for raising the question of equality was severe – I was thrown out of the community that I love.

The typical dissenter’s refrain: “Me, me, me…it’s all about ME!”

Going on, Bourgeois tries to co-opt Pope Francis and his new style:

Perhaps the biggest change demonstrated by the pope’s comments is the sense of liberation among Catholics to freely discuss the many issues facing the church. The fear that led so many to keep their doubts about current policy to themselves under the previous two popes seems to have been lifted. However, Pope Francis’s pastoral tone should not be mistaken for pastoral action. We need mechanisms and forums for the official church to hear the voices of the laity, especially women & LGBT Catholics. The people of the church are talking but we need the hierarchy to listen to groups like the Women’s Ordination Conference, DignityUSA, and the majority of Catholics who support a church based on justice. We cannot allow for the inconsistencies of justice in Pope Francis’s comments to stand without speaking out.

I have questions for Roy.

First, what about a Transgendered Ordination Conference?  Roy is being exclusivist.  What about the Ungendered Ordination Conference?  After all, people should be able to choose what they are without Roy’s prejudices against them.

Next, what about all the Traditionalist LBGT Catholics who follow, say, the SSPX? Don’t they have a right to be ordained too?

What we need is a big summit. We need a … a… conference!

We need a Traditionalist Ordination Conference! TOC!

This Conference will help prevent bishops from discriminating against Traditional Catholics who are convinced that they are called to the priesthood.

We need a color for our ribbons. I think the WOC (spell it backwards) uses pink, … for lots of reasons, I suspect.

Maybe TOC could use… scarlet? White and gold?

We need to get this going.

I see the exclusion of traditionalists from the priesthood as a grave injustice and, in good conscience, I cannot remain silent. The punishment for raising the question of equality has been severe – I was thrown out of the seminary and diocese that I love.

The discrimination MUST STOP!

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A new book from J.R.R. Tolkien (+ 1973)

For all you fans of The Professor, J.R.R. Tolkien, … he has a new book!

The Fall of Arthur

US link HERE
US Kindle HERE
UK link HERE
UK Kindle HERE 

Here is the blurb from amazon:

The Fall of Arthur, the only venture by J.R.R. Tolkien into the legends of Arthur, king of Britain, may well be regarded as his finest and most skillful achievement in the use of Old English alliterative meter, in which he brought to his transforming perceptions of the old narratives a pervasive sense of the grave and fateful nature of all that is told: of Arthur’s expedition overseas into distant heathen lands, of Guinevere’s flight from Camelot, of the great sea battle on Arthur’s return to Britain, in the portrait of the traitor Mordred, in the tormented doubts of Lancelot in his French castle.

Unhappily, The Fall of Arthur was one of several long narrative poems that Tolkien abandoned. He evidently began it in the 1930s, and it was sufficiently advanced for him to send it to a very perceptive friend who read it with great enthusiasm at the end of 1934 and urgently pressed him, “You simply must finish it!” But in vain: he abandoned it at some unknown date, though there is evidence that it may have been in 1937, the year of publication of The Hobbit and the first stirrings of The Lord of the Rings. Years later, in a letter of 1955, he said that he “hoped to finish a long poem on The Fall of Arthur,” but that day never came.

Associated with the text of the poem, however, are many manuscript pages: a great quantity of drafting and experimentation in verse, in which the strange evolution of the poem’s structure is revealed, together with narrative synopses and significant tantalizing notes. In these notes can be discerned clear if mysterious associations of the Arthurian conclusion with The Silmarillion, and the bitter ending of the love of Lancelot and Guinevere, which was never written.

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QUAERITUR: Women should cover their heads, not just in church, but all the time?

Help Fr Z get to 20K!

From a reader:

I am a traditional Catholic woman (attend an ICKSP oratory) and always cover my hair when in a church. I was taught that 1 Corinthians 11 is referring to women covering their hair in church only, which makes sense to me; however, I recently learned that many of the early Church fathers taught that women should have their hair covered at ALL times.
I’ve read much of what they wrote on the topic, and it concerns me, because I wonder if they taught that due to cultural norms of modesty or if this is something that was needlessly thrown out over the years (because as we both know, it’s hard enough to get Catholic women to wear veils to mass, let alone outside of mass as well). Please enlighten me on this subject of full-time head coverings for Catholic women. Thanks in advance!

Wow.

I have written several times about head covering for women while in church (in short: it is not obligatory, but it is a darn good thing and the custom should be revived).

I wonder who will say/write the Magic Word first! I may have to send a prize.

Now, I am just going to back out of the room very carefully.

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