Did Pope Francis really endorse airstrikes?

Did Pope Francis really endorse airstrikes?If you want to, you can read the full transcript of Pope Francis’ presser on the airplane as he returned to Rome from Korea. HERE

The issue of Iraq came up. American journalist Alan Holdren (Catholic News Agency/ACI PRENSA/EWTN): asked His Holiness about airstrikes.

Q: As you know, not long ago the U.S. military forces have started bombing terrorists in Iraq to prevent a genocide. To protect the future of the minorities, I think also of the Catholics under your guidance, do you approve of this American bombing (campaign)?

Pope Francis:

Thanks for such a clear question. In these cases where the is an unjust aggression, I can only say that it is licit to stop the unjust aggressor. I underscore the verb “stop.” I don’t saying to bomb or make war, (but) stop it. The means with which it can be stopped should be evaluated. To stop the unjust aggressor is licit. But we also have to have memory, as well, eh. How many times under this excuse of stopping the unjust aggressor the powers have taken control of nations. And, they have made a true war of conquest. One single nation cannot judge how you stop this, how you stop an unjust aggressor. After the Second World War, there was the idea of the United Nations. It must be discussed there and said ‘there’s an unjust aggressor, it seems so “How do we stop it?” Only that, nothing more. Secondly, the minorities. Thanks for the word because they speak to me of the Christians, poor Christians – it is true, they suffer – and the martyrs – and yes, there are so many martyrs – but here there are men and women, religious minorities, and not all Christian and all are equal before God, no? Stopping the unjust aggressor is a right that humanity has but it is also a right of the aggressor to be stopped so he doesn’t do evil.

As I watch the news today, some claims are being made that Pope Francis “approves” of airstrikes.

This is what I initially heard.  My first reaction to his repetition of “stop”, was probably influence by my firearms training: you “stop” an aggressor.  You do not have the intention to kill but to stop the aggressor from doing harm.   In that light, I, too, thought for a moment that he was endorsing the use of military force.

Then I woke up.

Notice how he dodges to the “United Nations” solution.  Also, that phrase about an “excuse” to take control of nations.  That sounds to me to be more of a slam of these USA and Iraq than it is of Russia and Ukraine.

And what to make of that comment about the United Nations?

“After the Second World War, there was the idea of the United Nations. It must be discussed there and said ‘there’s an unjust aggressor, it seems so “How do we stop it?” Only that, nothing more.“

I could be wrong, but that sounds very much like, “We have to talk to each other for a while and then, after talking, we all can go to the unjust aggressor to talk about stopping, but we can’t do more than talk.  We can’t use military force to ‘stop’ an unjust aggressor.”

Did I get that wrong?  The Pope’s answer is ambiguous, but I think that was the message.

What I find puzzling is that Pope Francis did not unambiguously back up something that his representatives said the other day.

Archbp. Giorgio Lingua, the Nuncio to Baghdad, told Vatican Radio that the American strikes are “something that had to be done, otherwise [the Islamic State forces] could not be stopped.”  That’s an endorsement of airstrikes.  Pretty clear.

Archbp. Silvano Tomasi, Nuncio to the United Nations in Geneva, told Vatican Radio that “military action in this moment is probably necessary.”  That’s fairly clear.

At this point I track back to what I posted the other day, HERE, from a Pope who grew up in war ravaged Europe, liberated by allies who defeated an unjust regime:

8. Here I wish to express gratitude to the international organizations and to all those who are daily engaged in the application of international humanitarian law. Nor can I fail to mention the many soldiers engaged in the delicate work of resolving conflicts and restoring the necessary conditions for peace. I wish to remind them of the words of the Second Vatican Council: ”All those who enter the military in service to their country should look upon themselves as guardians of the security and freedom of their fellow-countrymen, and, in carrying out this duty properly, they too contribute to the establishment of peace”.

 

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YOUR URGENT PRAYER REQUESTS

YOUR URGENT PRAYER REQUESTSPlease use the sharing buttons! Thanks!

Registered or not, will you in your charity please take a moment look at the requests and to pray for the people about whom you read?

Continued from THESE.

I get many requests by email asking for prayers. Many requests are heart-achingly grave and urgent.

As long as my blog reaches so many readers in so many places, let’s give each other a hand. We should support each other in works of mercy.

If you have some prayer requests, feel free to post them below. You have to be registered here to be able to post.

I still have a pressing personal petition. Actually… two.

Pray for the poor suffering Christians in Iraq!

Sts. Nunilo and Alodia, pray for us!

Also, please pray for a priest friend who is under HUUUUUUGE pressure at the moment for something that is of great importance.

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Michael Voris interviewed, speaks of the role of singles

Here is something you don’t see everyday.

A frequent commentatrix here, Supertradmum, has interviewed Michael Voris.  HERE

Of interest are the questions on the vocation and role of single people in the Church.

A sample:

Question One: I want to concentrate on a subject perhaps not discussed too much and that is the role of single people in the Church. I hope you do not mind sharing a few aspects of this tonight. 

I guess two things pop to my mind. Look at this as a positive and a negative, at the sacraments which are the traditional vocations of the Church, which include graces needed to sustain those roles. (These are marriage and the priesthood.) The single life poses its own unique challenges, but is sustainable by a different application of graces of by Our Lord. Many of us are single, some of us forever.
Nuns and sisters live underneath a sacrament. However, I do believe there is an opportunity to grow in grace in a non-sacramental grace. There is a type of intimacy which can develop between a soul and our Lord, not in the traditional vocations, a non-distracted companionship. You can grow very deeply.  You cannot talk about a single vocation. I do not think it is proper to talk about a vocation to the single life. A single person may be living a consecrated life, but that is not the same.

A person may not be the marrying kind. There are probably some people, lide those with same-sex attraction who would have to come to this place–how to incorporate living according to the Church’s teaching in their daily spiritual lives.

Most people do not stay there (single)

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“Stand your ground armed with spiritual weapons!”

There is a fine bishop in England, in Shrewsbury (across the river from Liverpool).  His Excellency Most Rev. Mark Davies recently addressed the Faith Movement during their conference.  ZENIT has more.

Young Catholics Urged to Engage in Spiritual Warfare
Bishop Stresses Need to “Stand Our Ground” in a Europe in Danger of Losing Christian Foundations

Young Catholics should stand their ground “armed with spiritual weapons” ready to challenge the destructive ideologies of the 21st century, a bishop has told a summer gathering.

Bishop Mark Davies of Shrewsbury, England, said Europe was in danger of losing its Christian foundation and that our times do not allow any Christian to be “mediocre”.

The bishop was addressing more than 200 people at the Faith movement’s 42nd annual Summer Session held last Aug. 11-15 at Woldingham School, Surrey. [Faith is excellent.  My friend Fr. Tim Finigan is involved, which is as fine a mark of distinction as any group would hope to have.  They have an excellent publication.  Do check them out HERE]

He said: “In the seeming quiet of British society in the early 21st century, we are urged again, in the Apostle Paul’s words, to stand our ground armed with spiritual weapons.

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Read the rest there.

I agree wholeheartedly with Bishop Davies.  We are in a state of war.  We always have been, of course.  For the entirety of human history all of us are constantly struggling with the world, the flesh and Devil.

These days, however, the war is heating up.  Do you not feel this as well?

I think that, for us in the Latin Church, among the more important spiritual weapons we must buckle on are frequent confession and celebration of the sacraments and office especially in the older, traditional form of the Roman Rite.

"Stand your ground armed with spiritual weapons!"My position is that Benedict XVI, seeing what was happening, had a kind of “Marshall Plan” in mind.  During his work as a theologian and then as Roman Pontiff, we had a three-pronged plan.  He saw that we urgently need to shore up biblical exegesis (see his intro to the first volume of his Jesus of Nazareth USA HERE UK HERE), find a proper interpretive lens, or hermeneutic, for Vatican II (see his 2005 Address to the Roman Curia), and, most importantly, revitalize our sacred worship (see Summorum Pontificum).  As the Marshall Plan rebuilt post-war Europe as a bulwark against Communism, Benedict’s plan is a defense against the “dictatorship of relativism”.

Furthermore, he called for a New Evangelization (and his three projects support that effort).  However, no initiative undertaken in support of a New Evangelization (recovery of our Christian Catholic identity in places where it has been snuffed out) can be successful without a liturgical renewal.  This must be done with the use also of the traditional Roman liturgy, which both provides a corrective for the Novus Ordo and provides in an of itself great spiritual benefit.   Ratzinger correctly say that the crisis of identity in the Church is a crisis of our liturgical worship.

So, I applaud Bp. Davies in his call for spiritual warriors.

I add my voice to the call.

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LCWR wrap up

“But Father! But Father!”, people have been asking me by email, “Why haven’t you been covering the antics of the LCWR?  Did you not see that they are defying the bishops?  The Vatican?”

Look, they are still meeting to figure out what they are going to do about their canonical status with the Holy See.

I did see this, however.  They empowered the new co-mentor, or whatever they they call her.  Here’s the photo.

LCWR wrap up

Note the chasuble-esque togs they donned.  I am glad they had sisters with shorter hair as the new co-mentor’s acolytes so that they didn’t cover up the fashionable collars.  Particularly moving is the sponsoring solidarity-hand on the shoulder and the upturned hands for the Holy Spirit.  I think she’s supposed to land there.

In other news, Sr. Elizabeth Johnson gave a talk, the headline event of the conference, in which she insulted bishops and the Holy See, and directed the spotlight back to herself.  In the HuffPo account we read:

In her 20-minute acceptance speech, followed by a standing ovation, Johnson suggested the conference’s support of her work prompted the investigation by the church’s top enforcer of orthodoxy, the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith.

Yep.  It’s all about her.

But that’s really all we have to say about Elizabeth Johnson, whom everyone is simply supposed to accept is a good theologian.  She got her award and made her speech and now she will disappear for a while.

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NYC – Manhattan’s Church of the Holy Innocents – VIDEO

You probably know about the Church of the Holy Innocents in midtown Manhattan’s reviving Garment District.  This is the only church in NYC where you can find Holy Mass in the Extraordinary Form.

Holy Innocents is a great place and many people depend on it for their spiritual nourishment.

You want New Evangelization?  They’ve got it.

I was sent this video, which is on Youtube.

Play video

Also on the topic of Holy Innocents, I direct your attention to the blog of Fr. Allan MacDonald from Macon.  He has some personal observations.  HERE

 

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Just for nice

I am a little surprised that I haven’t been sent any photos from the Solemn Mass we celebrated at the beautiful St. Martin of Tours in Louisville.

My great thanks to the new Juventutem chapter there and also to the pastor of St. Martin’s, Fr. Beach.

So, in the absence of same, here are a couple shots from the Pontifical Mass at the Throne we had in Madison last Friday for the Feast of the Assumption.

Just for nice

Just for nice

Also, just in…

Here is a photo from the Solemn Mass on Saturday.

Just for nice

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Your Sunday Sermon Notes

Was there a good point or two which you remember from the sermon you heard for your Sunday Mass?

Let us know.

For my part, for this 10th Sunday after Pentecost, spoke briefly about our need not to be presumptuous about our spiritual state or presume much about the state of others.

I also mentioned that St Augustine made an observation about how his flock, on hearing about God’s mercy, would all strike their breasts with such force that the sound rumbled through the church.

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My View For Awhile: Home again, home again

As my time here in Louisville draws to a close, I want to share some shots of the beautiful altar cards we used at the Solemn Mass.

My View For Awhile: Home again, home again

 

The nice lady who makes these and has the little cottage industry SPORCH (sometimes with an ad on the sidebar of this blog… right now, as a matter of fact) was at the conference and Mass. I had a chance to speak with her briefly.

 

Some details.

My View For Awhile: Home again, home again

My View For Awhile: Home again, home again

 

And then there was this after the 8 AM Mass.

My View For Awhile: Home again, home again

 

UPDATE:

Off we go again.

My View For Awhile: Home again, home again

 

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Bourbon country…

I am I Louisville, ground zero of Bourbon, which is so much more than just a great breakfast drink.

Today I gave two talks today on matters liturgical, spiritual, ecclesiological. The day is sponsored by Juventutem.

What a beautiful church is St Martin of Tours! A couple pics.

Bourbon country...

 

This is the parish where they have two full bodies of saints on display for your veneration, Sts Magnus and Bonosa.

Bourbon country...

Bourbon country...

 

 

There are a few cool things to share, including this.

Who can guess what this is?

Bourbon country...

Bourbon country...

 

 

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