QUAERITUR: Permission from your territorial pastor in order to marry elsewhere

QUAERITUR: Permission from your territorial pastor in order to marry elsewhereFrom a reader:

I hope this finds you well! My question: if one is a registered member of a territorial parish in whose geographical boundaries you do not live, is it necessary to receive permission from your “territorial pastor” to receive the Sacrament of Matrimony in some other parish?

This seems to be common practice in my diocese, with an argument made that the “pastor of registration” has the care of that person’s soul, rather than the “territorial pastor,” thus rendering the permission of the pastor in whose geographical boundaries you live unneccesary.

The pastor (parish priest for those of you in England) has the right of marrying his subjects.  That means the geographic or territorial pastor, unless the person in question is legitimately a member of a personal parish (by virtue of ethnicity, nationality, language, culture or any other parameters which a bishop establishes for personal parishes, including personal parishes for charismatics, the Extraordinary Form, etc.).

Permission of the (usually geographic) pastor should be sought when one wishes to marry outside of one’s territorial parish.

That said, permission of the geographic pastor is not required for validity!

Can. 1109 in the Code of Canon Law establishes that the local ordinary and the pastor can marry “by virtue of their office and within the confines of their territory… not only their subjects, but also those who are not their subjects, provided that one of them is of the Latin rite.”  (If two Ukrainian Catholics come to him, no dice even though they live next door to the parish church.)

Can. 1110 covers personal ordinaries and personal pastors and is more restrictive – these gentlemen “assist validly only at marriages where at least one of the parties is a subject within the confines of their jurisdiction.”  Get that difference?  Validly?  Jurisdiction?

So, if you’re actually present for your wedding (which will hopefully be the case, although proxies are permitted!), then you are “within the confines” of the territory of the pastor – even if he’s not technically your pastor (you are within his parish’s boundaries and he has the right to marry people within his boundaries). No permission, strictly speaking, is required from your geographic pastor.

It is nevertheless good to seek permission from the pastor of the parish in which territory you actually live.  There may be particular law in a diocese which requires the permission of the territorial pastor.  This could be the case both to remind people of the normal territorial nature of the parish, and to also perhaps jog the conscience of the territorial pastor to remember to pray for all those souls entrusted to his care.

Moreover, such particular laws could also bring to the attention of the chancery certain demographic realities.  For example, if, in the course of a year, 50 couples who live in St. Dissentia parish are asking permission to get married at St. Fidelia parish, and no one from St. Fidelia parish to get married at St. Dissentia, that could be a a sign that the pastor of St. Dissentia might not be doing his job.  On the other hand, if everyone is going to Fr. Marrying Sam at St. Dissentia…

UPDATE: As a priest commentator adds, below, we must also give due regard to can. 1115, which concerns also liceity, though not validity.

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Four minutes on what happened with the Council and what young people want now

Fr. Kramer, Pastor of the Extraordinary Form parish in Rome, explains the situation:

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Of Hugs

Sometimes the news can just be simple.

From CNA:

Vatican City, Apr 26, 2012 / 04:01 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- A 7-year-old Italian girl got her wish granted after this week’s Wednesday General Audience in St. Peter’s Square, when she was able to give a hug to “her friend” Pope Benedict XVI.

Miriam Gentile, who suffers from cerebral palsy, was born in the city of Catanzaro on April 22, 2005, three days after Benedict XVI’s election to the papacy. She has been receiving treatment for her condition at the Gemelli and Bambino Gesu Hospitals in Rome.

At the conclusion of the General Audience on April 25, she personally greeted the Pope and gave him what the Vatican daily L’Osservatore Romano described as “an unforgettable hug that was simple, spontaneous, and an expression of joy and affection.”

Her father, Marino Gentile, said Miriam “watches the Pope on television all the time, because seeing him makes her happy.”

Among those attending the General Audience this week a group of children aged 5-12 from the Italian city of Parma participating in a program to promote sports as “a healthy way to have fun,” said the group’s spokesman, Giuseppe Formisano.

You may remember that about a year ago, a little boy made a dash past security during a General Audience:

Of Hugs

Sinite parvulos!

And then there is the case of the audacious young Thérèse Martin and Leo XIII.

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STOLEN by a parcel of …

STOLEN by a parcel of ...From a reader:

I don’t believe it, while doing errands today our proudly displayed “Lex Credendi Lex Orandi” car magnet was stolen from our van. If I did not have the expenses of graduation for my MA in Theology I would order another straight away. As it is, I will be swagless for a month or so. Pity, as it has stirred many great parking lot conversations.

Grrrr. Black-souled thieves.

STOLEN by a parcel of ...I am reminded of the reaction of Dr. Maturin in Treason’s Harbour when his diving bell and dunnage was stolen.

A parcel of black thieves on horseback took away my bell – may they rot for ever in the deep cinders of Hell – and my collections and all my clothes was the way of it.

Poor fellow.

Poor fellow.

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QUAERITUR: Big groups for Confirmation. Wherein Fr. Z rants.

QUAERITUR: Big groups for Confirmation. Wherein Fr. Z rants.From a reader:

56 girls were recently confirmed. Isn’t that too big a group? I would rather have smaller groups, and the Archdiocese of ___ has no shortage of auxiliary bishops and vicars.

There is no requirement in canon law that the number of confirmands be small.

I commend diocesan bishops who do confirmations themselves rather than delegate them to others – even to his auxiliaries!

For the vast majority of Catholics, the moment of their confirmation is the only time in their lives when they are face to face with their bishop.

A diocesan bishop who opts to do confirmations himself highlights both the importance of the sacrament and also his concern for the lives of those entrusted to his care.

In my own case, at my reception into the Catholic Church as a convert, the pastor chose not to confirm me.  Instead, he wanted me to be confirmed by a bishop.  Thus, I was confirmed by a former pastor of the parish who was by then the retired bishop of New Ulm in Minnesota, Bishop Alphonse Schladweiler.  May he rest in peace.  We should pray for the priests and bishops who baptized us and confirmed us.  As a matter of fact, I suggest that when there are baptisms, you tie a label to the candle – indicating also the name of the priest who presided, and save it against the day when another priest may have to bring viaticum!  But I digress.   Being confirmed by a bishop made a big impact on me.

Let the minister of confirmation be at least a bishop!

Yes, I know that diocesan bishops have a lot to do.  If the diocese is large, the confirmations could be quite demanding.  Yes, I know that there are “good reasons” why the diocesan bishop can’t do all the confirmations.  Yes, I know that some dioceses are waiting for a new bishops.  Yes, I know that a person confirmed by a priest is not any less “confirmed” as far as the res et sacramentum are concerned.

But…what are is the local bishop for if not – first and foremost – to impart those sacraments for which – in the Latin Church at least – he is the primary ministers?  Isn’t this really his role?

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QUAERITUR: 2 male or 2 female sponsors for Confirmation

QUAERITUR: 2 male or 2 female sponsors for ConfirmationFrom a reader:

I attended a Confirmation yesterday, and I noticed two things that made me doubtful. Firstly, the fact that some of the girls being confirmed had two godfathers, or two godmothers, while I had been told in my own Confirmation I could have either one, or one of each gender, and they couldn’t be my parents. Would you clarify this point?

Thank you for you time, and pardon my english, it isn’t my first language!

Can. 892 of the 1983 Code of Canon Law simply speaks of one sponsor for confirmation and states that the sponsor must fulfill the conditions mentioned for godparents in can. 874.

While having more than one sponsor for confirmation is not forbidden by law, it is not foreseen.  Therefore, it could be a legitimate “praeter legem” custom that has been developed, or is in the process of developing.

Since only one sponsor is required, canon law makes no provision for a second sponsor being of the opposite sex of the first sponsor.

However, it seems a good idea to permit this in an age where the complementarity of men and women is under attack!  It sends a wrong signal to forbid “same sex godparents” at baptism, but to allow same sex sponsors at confirmation.  Still, there is no law forbidding it. We cannot place burdens on the faithful that the law does not impose.

That said, we must admit that all sorts of silly things are legal!

 

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CDWDS Confirms Rite for the Blessing of a Child in the Womb

I read in the monthly newsletter of the USCCB’s Committee on Divine Worship (Vol. 48, April 2012) the following:

CDWDS Confirms Rite for the Blessing of a Child in the Womb

The text of the Rite for the Blessing of a Child in the Womb, approved in English and Spanish by the USCCB in November 2008, has been confirmed by the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments; the English text was confirmed on December 8, 2011 (Prot. n. 1422/08/L), and the Spanish text followed on March 1, 2012 (Prot. n. 125/12/L). Timothy Cardinal Dolan, USCCB President, authorized its use in the liturgy as of March 26, 2012, the Solemnity of the Annunciation of the Lord.

This new blessing was originally developed in March 2008 by the USCCB Committee on Pro-Life Activities for inclusion in the Book of Blessings and Bendicional, and further refined by the Committee on Divine Worship and the body of Bishops. The introduction to the rite observes that the blessing of an unborn child “sustains the parents by imparting grace and comfort in time of concern and need, unites the parish in prayer for the unborn child, and fosters respect for human life within society.”

Within Mass, the blessing of a child in the womb takes place after the Prayer of the Faithful; an additional solemn blessing at the end of Mass is also provided, drawn from number 272 of the Book of Blessings. The blessing may also take place within a celebration of the Word of God, celebrated by a priest or deacon either in a church or at another suitable location (such as a hospital, the home of the parents, etc.).

In sending the recognitio for the Rite for the Blessing of a Child in the Womb, the Congregation also offered the following suggestion: “Supplementary materials for the faithful based on the themes of the ritual or even the text itself, such as a prayer card that could be prayed privately by an expectant mother, could certainly be created and distributed.” While there are no immediate plans to create such resources at a national level, diocesan efforts or even local efforts at the parish level could be undertaken at any time.

The text of the new Rite for the Blessing of a Child in the Womb/Rito de bendición de una criatura en el vientre materno will be made available on the USCCB website during the week before Mother’s Day (May 13, 2012), with a printed booklet to follow, published by USCCB Communications. (The two U.S. publishers of the Book of Blessings, Catholic Book Publishing Corp. and Liturgical Press, are also expected to publish editions of the rite.)

For the benefit of our readers, the English and Spanish texts of the Prayer of Blessing, as taken from the new rite, are reprinted on the next page.

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I made an image of the texts:

CDWDS Confirms Rite for the Blessing of a Child in the Womb.

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QUAERITUR: Can a Protestant minister officiate at Catholic marriage while the priest watches?

From a reader:

First, please know you are in my prayers. My question: Is it permissible for a Protestant minister to officiate the Marriage Rite at a Catholic Nuptial Mass? This is about to take place at our local parish and our pastor stated that as long as he witnesses (watches) the vows, it is okay.

It would not be possible for a non-Catholic minister to receive the vows of a couple at a Catholic nuptial Mass.

Depending on the diocesan laws and customs, and subject to the norms of the 1993 Ecumenical Directory, there might be some place for the non-Catholic minister in the nuptial Mass – processing in, sitting in the sanctuary, even standing (silently) with the Catholic priest while he, the priest, receives the vows of both parties, offering congratulations to the couple on behalf of his ecclesial community at the end of the nuptial Mass.

If the Protestant minister “officiates” at the marriage rite while the Catholic priest merely “witnesses” the vows being exchanged, we have a likely case of the marriage being null due to a defect of canonical form.

The priest (or deacon) must ask the questions (“Do you, Sempronius, take this woman, Caia…”) of BOTH parties.

QUAERITUR: Can a Protestant minister officiate at Catholic marriage while the priest watches?If the priest (deacon) does not, then the canonical form to which the Catholic party is bound is defective.

If the priest obtained a dispensation from form for the couple, the dispensation should specify where the wedding should take place (e.g., not in a Catholic Church) and who should officiate.

In the interest of protecting the couple from an invalid marriage, it could be prudent to report this matter to the local diocesan tribunal or chancery.

If the wedding has already taken place, it might be possible to sanate it. If it has not, the pastor might be able to be corrected.

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Pres. Obama undermining free-speech.

Pres. Obama is undermining not just the freedom of religion clause of the 1st Amendment but also free-speech.

Under a new law which Obama signed anyone protected by the Secret Service may request that there be no protests near them.  The penalty is a felony.

Consider that Pres. Obama can give Secret Service protection to anyone.

Therefore, you could be arrested by the Secret Service at their discretion or at the request of the protectee and then jailed with a felony charge for protesting anywhere near that person.

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An examination of themes of keynote speeches delivered at LCWR Assemblies

At the blog Domine, Da Mihi Hanc Aquam there is a reposted summary of themes which emerged from the writer’s close reading keynote speeches presented at the annual assemblies of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR – a subsidiary of the Magisterium of Nuns).

Some large excerpts, but you should read the whole thing there:

I read through several of the keynote speeches, and I noticed a couple of themes (that’s what we Old Lit Teachers do–look for themes). Here’s just a few in no particular order:

1. “Mission”: all of the addresses I read (four of them) exhort the sisters to mission. But never the mission of the Church that we would recognize as evangelization, that is, the preaching and teaching of the gospel that Christ gave to the apostles. The mission the sisters are exhorted to take up is always, always some form of left-liberal social engineering disguised as caring for Earth or insuring access to adequate health [care] for women. […]

2). Insularity: despite the exhortations to “mission,” all of the addresses I read include broad descriptions of the history of women religious as a way of “situating” the experience of these women within their own “mission,” in other words, they spend a lot of page space on talking to one another about one another’s grand innovations after the VC2 and how these innovations are radically different from anything that’s come before […]

3). “Prophetic”: as a corollary to their mission and insularity, the addresses harp on how “prophetic” women religious are in these innovations. As far as I can tell, “prophetic” means whatever they want it to mean. It clearly does not mean what the Church means by the term. If the examples used are typical, “prophetic” means something like “doing what we please and then accusing the Church of being too traditional, oppressive, and isolated from the world for not following our lead.” Beware self-anointed prophets! […]

4). “We missed out”: probably the most interesting theme is what I will call the We Missed Out theme. This theme arises in several discussions of the scientific and technological revolutions of the 20th century. Apparently, this theme is meant to demonstrate the superiority of a modernist worldview over and against a wholly Christian worldview. […]

5). Futility: without exception the addresses I read painted depressing portraits of women religious as a tiny rebel band fighting the Sheriff of Rome. As part of the insularity painted by these addresses is a tragic sense of loss and the futility of their “mission” in the face of overwhelming authoritarian oppression by men. Apparently, we are to believe that women religious in the U.S. are guerrilla-fighters engaged in a war of attrition against the Church. Unfortunately for them, the attrition is all on their side. Rhetorically, these portraits serve an important purpose: by painting themselves as righteous rebels fighting a losing battle against the Man, the sisters are able to both continue their rebellion and justify their material failures all the while claiming moral victory. Neat, uh?

6). Jesus ain’t the Way: also without exception the addresses forthrightly deny Jesus’ own claim that he is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. As a way of undermining the Church’s legitimate mission of evangelization, Jesus becomes just another good guy with a really cool message of pacificism, egalitarian communal life, and a feminist concern for eco-politics. In one address, delivered by Joan Chittister, the arrival of mosques in historically Christian lands is celebrated as a great advance for liberty and the pursuit of religious diversity. […]

7). Monotonality: the addresses are uniformly written and delivered by women religious who tell the gathered sisters only what they wanted to hear. There were no addresses that seriously challenged any of the preconceived notions held dear by these women. Without exception. the meme’s of “We Are the Future and Our Agenda is of God” is heard in terms of ecclesial revolution and theological dissent. Not one address challenged the sisters to rethink their assumptions along orthodox lines. Not one address asserted a theme, idea, theology, or political notion that would upset or stir the secular feminist pot these women are stewing in. […]

8). New Stories: as a result of the We Missed Out theme, the addresses pull on recent developments in cosmology to construct “new stories” about creation, space-time, human evolution, and the role of consciousness in our pursuit of holiness. Of course, none of these new stories read like anything found in scripture, tradition, science, or Church teaching. In fact, the purpose of the new stories is to lay a narrative foundation for a particularly gnostic-feminist view of the human person that “frees” us from the confines of patriarchal thinking by re-situating the human race as just another evolved species living and dying in a vast cosmos. Routinely, the addresses privilege “new cosmologies” over and against our biblical narratives of creation and the end of space-time, and undermine God’s Self-revelation in scripture. […]

If you are following the The Reform of LCWR at all, you should read the whole piece and file it away.

In the meantime, I suggest some of you readers go to the LCWR site and download some of their stuff before they change their page and make it disappear.

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