Play by Play: Card. Burke’s video interview recap!

Ed Peters, canonist extraordinaire, has a useful recap of Card. Burke’s video interview with Raymond Arroyo of EWTN.   Peters points to the minute and second mark of certain of the Cardinal’s comments and then adds his own helpful commentary.

This is the video interview that has sent a few of the catholic Left to swoon upon their feinting couches, others to beat the air vainly as so many windmills, others to erupt in spittle-flecked nutties.

Some notes on Cdl. Burke’s EWTN interview

by Dr. Edward Peters

There are too many important passages in Raymond Cdl. Burke’s recent 29 minute interview with EWTN to quote and comment upon here. The entire interview should be seen by those wanting to understand better what is happening in and around the Extraordinary Synod on the Family. Even so, a few parts warrant underscoring.

At approx. 11:45, Burke talks about helping couples in irregular unions (Catholics civilly remarried after divorce) to “lead a chaste life”. Burke is referring to the brother-sister relationship long recognized by moralists and canonists as a viable way for such couples to stay together (say, for the sake of children), cease taking for themselves the prerogatives of the married, and access holy Communion.

At approx. 12:45, I wish Burke had been allowed to respond to Cdl. Kasper’s astounding claim that sacramental Confession is possible for someone who does not express firm purpose of amendment. Instead the discussion went down another interesting path. Oh well. [Ditto.  I caught that too.]

At approx. 15:58, Burke rejects with the bluntness it deserved Kasper’s claim that the annulment process itself is nothing more than Catholic divorce. The 1944 address of Pius XII mentioned by Burke is available in English at Canon Law Digest III: 612-622 or in Italian here.

At approx. 17:08, Burke makes a subtle but vital point that is of divine law that the Church ha[s] a process for assessing (among other things) the validity of marriage. It must be understood that, whatever else it is, marriage is, by Christ’s decision, a relationship rooted in contract (though this contract is raised to the level of sacrament between the baptized, c. 1055) and therefore the ecclesial society needs a legal process to assess the binding character of those contracts apparently entered into by its members. While the Church can, and does, make use of both judicial and administrative procedures to attain justice (annulment cases being among those matters treated judicially, c. 1671), the notion of hearing marriage nullity cases “administratively” has become code for deciding such cases “pastorally” or “mercifully” or in some way or another that is not “legal” in nature. [Exactly!] Burke’s comment is an urgent call not to abandon the idea that some legal process be employed to satisfy certain aspects of divine law.

At approx. 18:50, Burke makes an important observation on the “complexity” of the annulment process, namely, that the process is, for the most part, only as a complex as are the situations that the process is meant to assess. If life (including its legal aspects) were simple, then living life (and settling its legal questions) would also be simple. He makes the same point at approx. 19:30, calling for more people to be trained in canon law.

At approx. 21:10, Burke concedes the oddity of the pope’s naming a commission to revise tribunal procedures before it was even settled that tribunal procedures needed to be revised, [Yes.  That was strange, to say the least.] let alone agreed in regard to the manner in which they should be revised. For my part I too was surprised to learn that such a commission had been appointed so quickly, and then struck by, among other things, how few of the members seem to have extensive first instance experience or come from nations wherein tribunals function on significant scales. [As in, for example, these USA, where tribunals are being cleaned up?]

At approx. 21:20, Burke says he would make very few and very small changes to the current annulment process. “Very few” because, as I and others have argued, the tribunal process already is a bare-bones legal process, that is, almost nothing that tribunals do is not directly required by natural law for the achievement of justice. Things like citation of parties, use of witnesses, settled grounds for investigation, moral certitude of decision, and so on—to eliminate any of these aspects of an annulment case would be to deprive the process of something required by natural law itself for justice. “Very small” because Burke strongly supports, among other things, maintaining mandatory second instance review of affirmative sentences (c. 1682). Now, this is one of the few points on which reasonable Catholic minds can differ with Burke (and still make sense while doing so). [That could be an interesting debate.  But that would require clear thinking and terms.]

All informed discussants recognize that mandatory review of trial court sentences is not required by divine law for the attainment of justice, so in that regard it is a matter left to human genius for decision. Precisely because it is a matter for human determination, I am comfortable leaving the continuation or abandonment of mandatory second instance to the wisdom of ecclesiastical authority. Personally, I prefer its abrogation—but I grant that my experience in tribunal work colors my view: I served in tribunals where qualified first instance judges took their duties seriously [ehem… not all tribunals are equal] and (I’d like to think as a result thereof) second instance courts rarely failed to ratify first instance decisions. Too, perhaps one incentive to the good work being done in first instance is knowing that second instance is going to examine it. Removing mandatory review is a risky way to test that hypothesis.

In any event, Burke in his office regularly sees tribunal cases from around the world: he might therefore appreciate second instance as being a much more important practical, if admittedly optional, check on faulty first instance processes or decisions and, as a prudential matter, favor retention of second instance on those grounds. If that’s the case, well, let’s just say that Burke’s prudential judgment on such things is worth considerably more than mine.

At approx. 22:30, I wish the discussion on the “nature of the Synod” had turned first to the incredibly bad ecclesiology that allows such nonsense as “Synod 2014 is like a new Vatican Council II” even to be uttered. [Yes.  That was ridiculous.] How does such nonsense get said at all? Compare Canons 336-341 on ecumenical councils (subjects of “supreme and full power over the universal Church”) with Canons 342-348 on synod (groups of bishops that foster unity and advise). Good grief.

At approx. 26:20, Burke makes the kind of comment that resonates with every good lawyer: when asked how he felt about being removed from the Congregation of Bishops, Burke replies that No one has a right to be on such a body. Brilliant, go right to the heart of the law (cc. 331, 360-361, and ap. con. Pastor bonus) and defend the pope’s authority over his own dicastery. [But WAIT!  I thought the Synod of the Media had already decided that everyone who defends traditional practice is actually attacking the Pope!] Whether Burke’s is a voice that Pope Francis wants to hear is entirely the pope’s call to make. Opinions may differ on the wisdom of such a removal, but it is not for this group or that, for the media, or for any one else to impose their preferences in such matters on the pope. [The Pope can remove a Cardinal from a Congregation if he doesn’t think that he can work easily with him. If a Pope doesn’t like the aftershave which Lou Card. Gehrig habitually wears, that could be reason enough.]

Burke the lawyer upholds that papal authority.

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Synod’s “Relatio” drafting committee. Notice anything odd?

Pope Francis made an interesting move.  He added a few prelates to the group assigned to write the final Relatio (summary and suggestions to be submitted to the Pope).

At this point in the Synod, after all the little speeches, the members break into smaller groups, usually by language, to draft their proposed contributions in few of a final document to be drafted by a sub-committee.

The papal appointees to the drafting group are:

  • Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, president of the Vatican’s Pontifical Council for Culture.
  • Cardinal Donald W. Wuerl, archbishop of Washington, D.C.
  • Archbishop Victor Manuel Fernandez, rector of the Pontifical Catholic University of Argentina and one of the pope’s top theological advisors.
  • Archbishop Carlos Aguiar Retes of Mexico, president of CELAM, the Latin American bishops’ council.
  • Archbishop Peter Kang U-Il of South Korea.
  • Father Adolfo Nicolás Pachón of Spain, superior general of the Jesuit order.

No Africans.

Some people will say that the committee is comprised of members who lean one way or another.   That isn’t what surprised me.

No Africans are on the drafting committee, and yet is it clear that the state of the the family in Africa is considered pretty important.

I guess it isn’t as important as the state of the family in the wealthy West and Northern Hemisphere.

Isn’t that interesting?

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Behold how the Left thinks

At Daily Kos you can find a good example of how the Left thinks.  This is also an insight into how the catholic Left think, too.  For confirmation just watch the combox of the Fishwrap.  You see similar attitudes and tone.

Daily Kos attacked Card. Burke in an especially vicious way.  HERE Why? He stated, clearly, what we know about homosexuality.  Same sex-attraction is an inclination that is not a well-ordered inclination, according to human ecology, the natural law.  It is, as the Church has explained in rather clinical language, disordered.  The Kos writer, probably not up to date on any sort of technical language or the finer points of any language, leaped to conclusion that Card. Burke (or any of us) think that homosexuals are therefore deranged.

So… here is a sample of how the Left “thinks”, which includes also – in many cases – the catholic Left.  Thus, Kos, with my usual emphases and comments:

Hey, Cardinal F*ckwit, listen here: [With an intro like that, imagine what sort of brilliant reasoning and prose might follow!] The only “intrinsic disorder” here is your hatred and bigotry that belongs in the Dark Ages. [I suspect that, for the writer, “Dark Ages” is only a vague trope, a cliché.] The only thing that LGBT people suffer from is the efforts of people like you to condemn their lives at every turn, [Who did that?] and to fight with every ounce of your strength [I suppose the writer thinks that the world revolves around homosexuals.  We don’t really spend much time thinking about them.] their dignity, equality and civil rights. [No.  This is a canard.  Do not be taken in by the claim that this is a civil rights issue, as if it was on par with racial civil rights.] The only thing that makes them “profoundly unhappy” are your constant messages of hostility, animosity and condemnation for nothing else than who they are [?] and who they love. [It seems to me that only a profoundly unhappy person could write this stuff.] Something that actually scandalizes children is the rape and sexual abuse of them, which has been perpetrated, defended and covered up by your church for decades. [A drastic overplaying of that card.]

Homosexuality is not a mental disorder. [Card. Burke didn’t say that it was.  This is a straw man.] The beliefs that the Catholic Church holds about it is. [Try to follow that.  “The beliefs” are a “disorder”?  Does that even make sense?] The cure for this disorder is [This is where it gets really nasty.] to challenge them, shun them, shame them, ridicule them, mock them, condemn them, and make anyone who is considering holding them too embarrassed to do so. [You’ll have to try harder than this, I’m afraid.  This is simply rude slop which only paints the writer as the one with the problem.] And I’m tired of having the meaning of tolerance dictated to me by the right. Tolerance means that I don’t ban you from saying what you just said. [This person isn’t full of herself.  Nope.  Not a bit.] That’s it. I do not owe your sick beliefs one iota of respect. In my mind, they should be shoved to the absolute fringe of society, away from where any half-decent person can give them any consideration at all. They should have no place in mainstream society, in the same category as racism, misogyny and religious prejudice, [Of which the writer is deeply guilty.] and they deserve nothing but profound disrespect.

It’s the only way you’ll learn.

That’s your pitch?

It seems to me that this person may need counseling.

Meanwhile, that other liberal bastion quoted Michael Sean Winters of the Fishwrap, thus demonstrating that the Left and the catholic Left are at work in the same echo chamber.

In response to Burke’s declaration that gay relationships are “intrinsically disordered,” National Catholic Reporters’ Michael Sean Winters called the cardinal”tone deaf” and said such statements “make the Church look foolish and mean-spirited.”

“This man’s inability to speak with even a whiff of human compassion is intrinsically disordered if you ask me,” Winters said.

Sound familiar?  Now compare and contrast the above with the Fishwrap’s combox.  You will need a mask and nitrile gloves for this one.  HERE

Cowards.  They hide behind their anonymity to pour all manner of spiritual poison out into the world.

We respond with,

Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so men persecuted the prophets who were before you. “You are the salt of the earth; but if salt has lost its taste, how shall its saltness be restored? It is no longer good for anything except to be thrown out and trodden under foot by men. “You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hid. Nor do men light a lamp and put it under a bushel, but on a stand, and it gives light to all in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven. (Matthew 5:11-16)

And to Card. Burke, I say:

I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: preach the word, be urgent in season and out of season, convince, rebuke, and exhort, be unfailing in patience and in teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander into myths. As for you, always be steady, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfil your ministry. (2 Tim 4:1-5)

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UPDATE:

The aptly-named Daily Beast has a piece by someone named “Barbie” in the same vein as Kos and HuffPo, but with a bit less bile.  HERE  These folks come quite simply unglued at the thought that people should have to rut constantly.

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Your Sunday Sermon Notes

Was there a good point or two in the sermon you heard for your Sunday Mass?

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Let there be color

I saw a rather cool series of photos from the B&W age which have been colorized. The colorized versions give an entirely different “feel” to the moment.

HERE

Let there be color

Let there be color

Let there be color

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11 Oct: St. John XXIII

Today is the feast of the Pope who issued the Apostolic Constitution Veterum Sapientia.

Today is the feast of the Pope who didn’t like it when people clapped in church.

Today is the feast of the Pope who issued the Roman Missal of St. John XXIII.

11 Oct: St. John XXIII

His propers are HERE.

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VIDEO: Card. Burke’s clear, articulate, blunt answers about divorce, remarriage, Card. Kasper

His Eminence Raymond L. Burke gave an interview to Raymond Arroyo of EWTN.

You don’t want to miss this. Arroyo does not lob softballs. He starts out with a question about Pope Francis praise of Card. Kasper!

This is refreshing and it gets better and better as it goes along.

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“Does it apply to murderers and pedophiles?”

"Does it apply to murderers and pedophiles?"There is a good post at Fr. Hunwicke’s place pertaining to the admittance of the civilly remarried to Holy Communion. With my emphases:

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One gathers … as we grandly say in England … that brilliant ways are being mooted in Synodo for squaring the circle: formally maintaining Catholic sexual morality while letting people off the hook of having to try, with the help of grace, to adhere it. (There was a time when English Protestants claimed that ‘Subtle Jesuits’ could “prove that Black was White”.) One of these Brilliant Ways is Graduality or Gradualism.

Another is the old Liberal Protestant trick of talking about morality as an ideal rather than as a casuistic.

Another, that we must be more polite about people in certain situations and not call them Hurtful Names.

The Hunwicke test for diagnosing clever but shoddy dodges is threefold:
(1) Can you square it with the Sermon on the Mount and the ethical teaching of S Paul?
(2) Can you square it with the Lord’s parables and teaching about ‘we do not know the Day or the Hour’?
(3) Does it apply to murderers and pedophiles?

Whew.

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“The Church, while it strives to emphasise mercy, cannot do so by encouraging sin.”

"The Church, while it strives to emphasise mercy, cannot do so by encouraging sin."I was alerted to a piece in The Spectator by Louise Mensch, a divorced a remarried Catholic who knows that, in her present situation, to receive Holy Communion would be a mortal sin.

It is a pleasant change of pace to read something by someone who isn’t sugar coating her situation or trying to twist doctrine (and us readers) through emotional manipulation.

Louise Mensch: I’m a divorced Catholic. And I’m sure it would be a mortal sin for me to take Communion

Accept liberal arguments for the convenience of people like me, and you threaten the foundations of the Church

I am a divorced and remarried Catholic. I attend Mass every week. When my children want me to take them up to Holy Communion, I walk along behind them and cross my arms over my breast. My youngest is particularly keen on going up for a blessing, although he wants to know when he can get ‘the bread’. I say, ‘When you understand why it isn’t “the bread”.’ [Well done.]

It has never occurred to me to present myself for Communion when I have not sought — for various reasons that I won’t discuss here — to have my first marriage annulled. I know I am not a good Catholic, and I am living a life that the Church considers to be adulterous. Yet I am in good spirits, as I hope in God’s mercy. But I do not presume upon it. My Catechism says that is a further mortal sin, as would be the unworthy reception of Holy Communion.

People in my state are explicitly encouraged, in the Catechism, to attend church, and to make a spiritual communion, as I do each week. [But apparently we have to spend a lot of time on this issue.] I have the hope that one day I will be in a state of grace and able to receive Holy Communion again. I hope that, despite my ongoing sin, God nonetheless hides me in the shadow of his wings; that Mary, hope of sinners, has her cloak of mercy cast about me. I am a poor Catholic but I am also a believing Catholic. Yet there is a faction within the Church that evidently considers ‘believing Catholic’ to be a hopelessly old-fashioned clique that they must get shot of, alongside lace mantillas and kneeling at the Communion rail.

Holy Communion, for most of the bishops of England and Wales, appears to have become Protestant by default. [OUCH!] Instead of the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist — a presence we should tremble to receive at the best of times — Communion is now a sign, a symbol, a mere shared meal, an ‘expression of community’. [Sadly, I think she’s right.  And that’s not only in England.]

Next week [this was published a week ago] an Extraordinary Synod of Catholic bishops, summoned by Pope Francis, will meet to discuss the family. Catholic reformers are full of hope that, under his guidance, the bishops will liberalise the Church’s teaching on divorced and remarried Catholics. The liberal Tablet magazine devoted a cover story to the subject. It filled me with dismay. The article began by quoting Cardinal Walter Kasper, the leading liberal cardinal: ‘The church’s blanket ban on divorced and remarried Catholics receiving Communion…’.

Where to start? The Church does not ban anybody from receiving Communion other than non-Catholics (and there may be exceptions) and those too young to understand what they are receiving. Rather, nobody may receive God in the Eucharist in a state of mortal sin. Even before I remarried, and I use the term in a legal sense, since I cannot sacramentally remarry, I did not always present myself for Communion. Often I would be in a state of serious sin and had not found the time or organised myself enough to go to confession. The fact is that nobody in a state of serious sin — whatever that sin may be, in this case, adultery — is able to receive Christ worthily. To receive him unworthily is to commit a further mortal sin.

The Tablet article was called ‘The Case for Mercy’ and, reading it, I felt like pleading for us suckers who actually believe the basics: sin, confession, absolution, the Real Presence and the like. [Yes, we are soooo behind the curve, aren’t we?] What Cardinal Kasper appears to want to do is to tempt a generation of people into weekly mortal sin. How is that merciful? How is that helping? Is it impossible for liberal theologians to combine their reforming fervour with actual logic? [Do I hear an “Amen!”?] Allow a divorced and remarried person to receive Holy Communion and you are saying one of two things: either that it is not adulterous to have sex outside the marital bond, or that one may harmlessly receive the Most Holy Eucharist while in an ongoing state of mortal sin — a sin one firmly intends to commit again as soon as convenient.

There is no way that either of those things can be true, and the Church’s teaching be true. If sin doesn’t matter, what was the point of the Crucifixion? Why did Christ not stop with a ‘community meal’ on Maundy Thursday and skip that whole bothersome deal the next morning?

There are ways that those civilly divorced and remarried can be admitted to Holy Communion. Make it easier for them to obtain a declaration of nullity. Here is an area where the Church could be more sympathetic, could grant dispensations and exemptions in matters of process. The power of ‘radical sanation’ — granted for various reasons — to make a marriage whole could also be administered more often. That power does actually exist. Where the Church can legitimately change is in matters of tradition and practice — but not doctrine or dogma. Here, we sinners are protected from the human failings of individual priests and bishops by the infallibility of the Church. Some traditionalists protested when altar girls were permitted; [Yes, that was wrong then and it is still wrong now.] I remember asking in one forum if the Bishop had the right to do this (yes), then if it had been done to say it was wrong was — equally as much as in the other direction — to say the Church was wrong. [Well… I think that was a mistake, but it is apples and oranges when it comes to altar girls and Communion for the remarried.]

Theologically, the Church is like a giant tower in Jenga; pull out one brick and you topple all the others. We cannot admit that sex outside marriage isn’t adulterous, nor can we say that mortally sinful people can receive Holy Communion. But we can look harder at the powers given to the Church to declare and discern when somebody is in a state of sin or where, for genuinely merciful reasons, a union can be made whole, by powers already granted to our bishops by the Holy Spirit. [Who knows.  We also have to avoid the suggestion that the Church is changing doctrine.  Some people are bound to get it wrong and there is nothing we can do about that.  We need to avoid wide-spread confusion.]

Nothing will ever persuade me to receive Holy Communion in a state of grievous sin, unless for a serious reason. I once did so, when I discovered that a Protestant at my sister’s wedding had approached the priest, taken the Host and put it into his pocket. The poor priest hesitated but the man had walked away. He was foreign and hadn’t understood. I went to find him at the reception and he said ‘I didn’t want to interrupt the line’. I asked if I could have the Host from his pocket, I made a quick act of adoration and contrition and I ate it, despite being at that time not fit to receive. It seemed the lesser of two evils, and certainly that was my intent. I believe that under the circumstances, it was valid to consume the Host (although I am not sure).  [I think she did the right thing in that case.] One day I hope to do so again. But I understand that the Church, while it strives to emphasise mercy, cannot do so by encouraging sin. Communion is not, as the Tablet journalist I Twitter-debated this with said, just ‘for the saints’, that is true. But nor is it, as he put it, ‘a help for the journey.’ It is the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. However unfashionable that may be, it remains true.

This article first appeared in the print edition of The Spectator magazine, dated 4 October 2014

Fr. Z kudos.

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ASK FATHER: Is a priest necessary for a burial?

ASK FATHER: Is a priest necessary for a burial?From a reader…

QUAERITUR:

When my Dad died in August we had his funeral mass. He requested cremation and he was cremated following the funeral mass.

With the process of interment in a national cemetery (he had served in the Air Force), we had to schedule a time with the cemetery when my out of town brother can be here. It is scheduled for the day after Thanksgiving.

My Mom (also Catholic) is not planning to have a priest for this. I think this is mostly related to shoddy treatment they received from their pastor. Is it necessary to have a priest there?

I know there would normally be graveside prayers.

Condolences.

The Praenotanda (explanatory section) of the Order of Christian Funerals says that “When no priest or deacon is available for the vigil and related rites, or the rite of committal, a layperson presides.”  In the older, traditional rite, clerics handle things.

There are prayers that are to be said at the graveside, which include the blessing of the grave itself if interment is not in a Catholic cemetery which has already been blessed. Though the rite is unclear (… and aren’t they all nowadays? …) it seems that this blessing, if it is to be considered a constitutive blessing, would need to be done by a priest or deacon.

Can the rites of committal be done by a layperson? Sure, if there isn’t a priest or deacon available. The Church is mindful of the reality that, around the world, many people only have access to a priest once a month, if that often. Sometimes they have to bury their dead without the consoling presence of a priest. Thankfully, in these United States, even with a declining number of priests at present, there is an abundance of priests compared to some part of the world.

Arguments and spats happen with priests.

Sometimes, the priest is at fault.

Some priests can be unpleasant. Some laypeople can be unpleasant too.

It would be a shame … no… it would be a really bad idea to deprive yourself and your late father of the priestly ministry of the Church because of an argument with some priest – even if he was totally to blame.  If the wounds of the argument are still too raw with that particular priest, contact another parish or ask the funeral director for advice.   Funeral directors often know retired priests or priests with non-parochial ministry who can be called on to help out in situations like this.  They are also among the world’s best diplomats.

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