Catholic League’s head: Pope Francis should expel Vatican’s ‘Gay Lobby’

This doesn’t need a lot of commentary.

From NewsMax:

Catholic League’s Bill Donohue: Pope Must Oust Vatican’s ‘Gay Lobby’

The “gay lobby” Pope Francis says is at work in the Vatican must be ousted to prevent further damage to the Catholic Church, says Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights.

“The gay lobby needs to be rooted out and hopefully [Pope Francis] follows the footsteps of Pope Benedict in doing exactly that,” Donohue told “The Steve Malzberg Show” on Newsmax TV.

“It’s no secret … A gay lobby means that you’ve got a nest of homosexual priests who are covering for each other.”

On Thursday, it was revealed that Francis, in private remarks to a Latin American church group, acknowledged that a “gay lobby” is indeed in existence at the Vatican and must be dealt with.

For months, Italian newspapers have reported that powerful prelates who are gay exist in the Vatican and that some have become the victims of blackmailers who have threatened to out them.

Donohue said that over the years, but to a lesser extent now, gay lobbies have also existed in seminaries and parishes.

“[Bestselling author and Rev.] Andrew Greeley … referred to them as the Lavender Mafia. We shouldn’t have any of these people acting on their own with their own agenda,” Donohue said.

“You’ve got to crack this open. You’re either a priest committed to Jesus and everything else has to be secondary and once you have competing interests, whether it be sexuality or otherwise, then you’re the problem and you need to go.”

UPDATE:

A couple points.

When homosexuals become activists, promoting the “correctness” or “virtue” or “goodness” of an actively homosexual lifestyle, even if it is not open or public, we must look them in the eye and say “No.”  We must say “No.”, carefully and with respect for the person.

Since the post started with one firebrand, let’s continue with another.  This video from Michael Voris can add a good perspective to the conversation, lest anyone fall into the trap of suggesting, even vaguely, that homosexuals are not welcome in the Church or that they have no right claim Catholic identity (if they are trying to live Christian lives with all that implies).

Other writers or speakers have presented the point Voris tries to make, but since some of his critics might not expect this from him – because they think they have him figured out, and not in a good way – let’s give a few minutes to one of his old videos.

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Human rights? Over-rated.

From the New York Post:

NYU booting blind Chinese dissident Chen Guangcheng amid Shanghai expansion: sources
By JAMES COVERT

NYU isn’t letting a pesky thing like human rights stand in the way of its expansion in China.

The university has booted a blind Chinese political dissident from its campus under pressure from the Communist government as it builds a coveted branch in Shanghai, sources told The Post.

Chen Guangcheng has been at NYU since May 2012, when he made a dramatic escape from his oppressive homeland with the help of Hillary Rodham Clinton.

But school brass has told him to get out by the end of this month, the sources said.

Chen’s presence at the school didn’t sit well with the Chinese bureaucrats who signed off on the permits for NYU’s expansion there, the sources said.

“The big problem is that NYU is very compromised by the fact they are working very closely with the Chinese to establish a university,” according to one New York-based professor familiar with Chen’s situation, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

“That’s their liability,” the source said. “Otherwise, they would be much less constrained on issues like freedom of speech.”

The outspoken Chen — whose many supporters include actor Christian Bale, who tried to visit him in China with a TV crew in 2011 — recently inflamed Chinese authorities again when he agreed to visit its archenemy Taiwan in the coming weeks, a source said.

NYU officials claim that Chen was never meant to stay there long-term and that the politics of the new Shanghai campus had nothing to do with his ouster.

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Read the rest there.

May I say that the Post is my favorite NYC paper?  Remember the Rabat story?

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Nancy Pelosi: late-term abortion “sacred ground”

LifeSiteNews:

Catholic Nancy Pelosi: Issue of late-term abortions is ‘sacred ground’

WASHINGTON, D.C., June 13, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – In response to a question today from a reporter about a late-term abortion ban that is being proposed in Congress, Democratic Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said that the issue of late-term abortion is “sacred ground” for her. [I have to ask… did she take off her shoes when she said that?!?]

“As a practicing and respectful Catholic, [GAH!] this is sacred ground to me when we talk about this,” Pelosi said. “This shouldn’t have anything to do with politics.” [See what she is doing? “Faith” is only private.]

A Weekly Standard reporter had pointed out that the bill was proposed by legislators in response to the horrific case of late-term abortionist Kermit Gosnell, who was found guilty of murder for “snipping” the spinal cords of three babies born alive.

“They argue that there really isn’t much of a moral difference between what someone like Dr. Gosnell did to infants born at 23, 24, 25 weeks into pregnancy, and what can happen [legally] at a clinic down the road in Maryland where a doctor says he’ll perform an elective abortions 28 weeks into pregnancy,” asked the reporter. “So, the question I have for you is what is the moral difference between what Dr. Gosnell did to a baby born alive at 23 weeks and aborting her moments before birth?”

Pelosi responded by saying that what Gosnell did was “reprehensible,” but then said that the bill is also “reprehensible,” suggesting that it shows “disrespect” to “a judgment a woman makes about her reproductive health.”  [So late-term abortions are “sacred ground”.]

The bill would ban abortions after 20 weeks based upon evidence that by that age the unborn child can feel the pain of the brutal procedure, which in some cases involves dismemberment while the baby is still alive.

The reporter continued to push Pelosi, asking her what the difference was between a 26 week abortion, and killing the baby after birth.

Pelosi responded that “this is not the issue” and suggested that the proposed bill would say that “there’s no abortion in our country.”

When the reporter tried once again to get Pelosi to answer the question, she shot back, “I’m not going to have this conversation with you, because you obviously have an agenda. You’re not interested in having an answer.

That was when she also made the remark about the issue being “sacred ground.

The Weekly Standard reporter complained: “It was a simple question. You didn’t answer.

Pelosi, despite being one of the most pro-abortion legislators in Congress, has repeatedly said that she is a devout Catholic, and has defended her pro-abortion views in light of her faith.

Pelosi told Newsweek’s Eleanor Clift in 2010 that she had “some concerns” about the Catholic Church’s positions on abortion and homosexuality.

“I am a practicing Catholic, [GAH!] although they’re probably not too happy about that. But it is my faith,” said the former Speaker. “I practically mourn this difference of opinion because I feel what I was raised to believe is consistent with what I profess, and that is that we are all endowed with, a free will and a responsibility to answer for our actions. And that women should have that opportunity to exercise their free will.”

The Congresswoman has been publicly rebuked by numerous Catholic bishops over her position on moral issues.

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How long before Canon 915 is applied?

If Canon 915 exists for a reason, it exists for Nancy Pelosi.

How long?

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WISCONSIN: Legislation requiring ultrasounds

About one of the things pro-abortion advocates fear the most.

From CBS58 in Wisconsin:

Wisconsin Senate pass abortion bill, ultrasounds now required

WISCONSIN — Wisconsin Senators have passed a bill that would require doctors to perform ultrasounds before performing an abortion. The bill, sponsored by Republican Senator Mary Lazich, would also require that doctors discuss in detail the features of the fetus with any woman seeking an abortion.
The ultrasound would not be necessary in a medical emergency or in cases where the pregnancy is caused by rape or incest. [Because they are.. well… less human, I guess.] Senator Lazich has stated: “It is only right that a pregnant woman is fully informed about her child prior to abortion. Far too many women regret their abortion and suffer years of abortion trauma.”
The assembly is expected to vote on the bill as early as tomorrow, and if it passes, Governor Scott Walker says he’ll sign it by the end of the month.
Teri Huyck, President of Planned Parenthood Wisconsin has said, “Women are already informed before they have an abortion. We have an extensive informed consent process…we offer the availability of seeing their ultrasound. I think Senator Lazich is not giving women credit for the intelligence they’ve got.” [You would think that intelligent women would want to know as much as possible.]
If the bill is signed into law, Wisconsin would become the ninth state to require women to receive ultrasounds before abortions.

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Of Star Wars and Immanentism and Birdcages and Elite Snobbery. Wherein Fr. Z rants.

In my talks I sometimes address the steady slide of many Catholics into Immanentism Lite.  They don’t exactly deny that God is transcendent, it’s just that they never give transcendence the slightest thought.  They have never had too, have they?  Did catechism even touch on the idea?  Their liturgical worship has for decades been a self-enclosed circle of self-affirmation and good feelings.  When pushed they admit that God is probably transcendent, but… shrug.  For many today God is sort of like the The Force, ala Star Wars.

Speaking of Star Wars, I saw a story in German in a news source in Munich about a First Holy Communion Mass with a Star Wars theme, complete with blessing with a green toy light saber.  Cool, no?

No, I am not making this up.

Just look at how much fun everyone is having!

Risus abundant in ore stultorum.

Oooops!  I just committed an elitist crime.  I used Latin, didn’t I!  My bad.  I must not care about El Pueblo.

Remember what Karl Cardinal Lehmann said the other day about Latin and the older form of Holy Mass?

Yes, indeed.  Speaking at a Eucharistic Congress (exactly the right time to run down the traditional lung by which the Latin Church breathes liturgically), Lehmann said:

“Ich habe den Eindruck, die ganze Begeisterung auch für das Latein hat viel mit Prestige zu tun und falschen Vorspiegelungen einer vermeintlichen Kulturelite… I have the impression that the whole enthusiasm for Latin has a lot to do with prestige and the pretenses of a supposed cultural elite.”

This from a man who was in a birdcage for Karnival!

I’m sorry again, but… look, I could be wrong here, but does that strike you as somewhat lacking in … decorum?

Sorry for more Latin, and I apologize for apologizing again … but… pace Card. Lehman, how many more reasons do we need for a full-bore, unapologetic, widespread application of the provisions of Summorum Pontificum?

 

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Schadenfreude and Reform of the Roman Curia

Years ago in the hall of the Palazzo del Sant’Uffizio I ran into the then-Prefect Cardinal Ratzinger, who was always happy to chat and let me pick his brains.

On one occasion, he quipped that he was glad that Peter stopped in Rome and did not go north to Germany.  “Imagine”, he said, “were the Vatican in Germany, the efficiency with which we could be making our mistakes”.

Today I read at the site of Sandro Magister something that amused me greatly:

Thomas von Mitschke-Collande's book in German - Kindle - $9.99

ROME, June 13, 2013 – All that was lacking was a guru from McKinsey to design that reform of the curia which everyone expects from Pope Francis. And here he comes.

His name is Thomas von Mitschke-Collande, he is German and was the manager of the Munich branch of the most famous and mysterious company of managerial consulting in the world.

In matters of the Church, he knows his stuff. Last year he published a book with a title that was hardly reassuring: “Does the Church want to destroy itself? Facts and analyses presented by a business consultant.” The diocese of Berlin turned to him to get its accounts back in order, and the German episcopal conference asked him to draw up a plan to save on costs and personnel.

ROFL!

Is this Schadenfreude I am feeling?

Imagine: German managerial experts applying their tools in the still predominately Italian Roman Curia!

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QUAERITUR: Distance of a priest’s valid consecration

From a reader:

Dear Father – Like yourself I am not a fan of concelebration, but I would like to ask two questions. These questions came about in one of those after dinner discussions which come under the heading of “what if?”.

1. Thinking about large gatherings (e.g. Lourdes, open-air Masses, etc) is there any rule about how far away from the altar a priest can be before his actions become invalid?

2. If a priest is in the congregation (either in clerical dress or
“civvies”) and he said the correct words of the Eucharistic Prayer and did the correct actions, would that be valid concelebration? I suspect the answer is “no” but I would appreciate your words of wisdom!

As I have said many times, I think concelebration should be safe, legal and rare.  There are appropriate moments for it, such as when the local bishop celebrates the Chrism Mass or the Holy Thursday Mass of the Lord’s Supper, an ordination to the priesthood, occasional gatherings with priests.

Is there a “rule” about how far a priest can be from the Host he is supposed to be consecrating? No.  Not that I know of.

I have pondered this from time to time.  It seems to me that the priest has to be morally present to the Host.  That is, he has to have some sort of moral contact with it.  I am not sure about this, but I suspect there is analogy to be found in the distance at which a priest can absolve sins (within range of the human voice… not by phone, etc.).  It seems to me that a priest’s words of consecration should be audible where the hosts are.  I don’t think he necessarily has to be able to see the hosts.  A priest validly consecrates hosts in a ciborium placed on the corporal when he or the deacon forget to remove the cover.

So, no, there is no rule.  But we play fast and loose with that which is most sacred to us when he have these enormous Masses.  I would have them ended.  Let priests attend in choir dress.  Let people make spiritual Communions.  But I digress.

To the second point, if a priest is in lay clothes in the congregation and he says the words of consecration without actually concelebrating in the proper way….  Valid?  Yes, I think so.  However, he violates about a zillion rubrics and he maybe even violates the stern canon forbidding a priest to consecrate outside of Mass.  Even though the priest is at Mass, he seems not actually to be celebrating the Mass or concelebrating the Mass.  The Church makes it clear how priests concelebrate: they put on vestments, they enter the sanctuary or stand in the proper place, etc.  Standing somewhere in the church amongst the laity in lay clothes and saying the words of consecration with the intent to consecrate skates on the edge of sacrilege.  It may even be as bad as the nefas that Canon Law uses in reference to consecrating apart from celebrating Mass.

Reasons #8677 and #8678 for Summorum Pontificum?

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Document ready for close of Year of Faith

From Vatican Radio:

Pope Francis: post-Synodal exhortation ready for Year of Faith’s close (full text)

(Vatican Radio) The post-Synodal Exhortation on the new evangelization will be ready in time for the close of the Year of Faith. This was just one of the things Pope Francis said to the members of the XIII Ordinary Council of the General Secretariat of the Synod of Bishops on Thursday. Comprised of 15 Members, 12 of whom are elected from the Synod and 3 of whom are designated by the Roman Pontiff, the Ordinary Council of the General Secretariat is formed at the end of each ordinary general synodal assembly.

Putting aside his prepared remarks, Pope Francis engaged the Council members in a broad-ranging session, during the course of which he touched on a number of themes, including the post-Synodal Exhortation and the much-anticipated Encyclical letter on faith begun by Benedict XVI, the nature of ecclesial collegiality and the synodal structure in the service of the Church’s universal mission and in cooperation with the Petrine ministry, the crisis of the family, care for the created order, and the recovery of a whole and wholesome understanding of human being. About the encyclical, Pope Francis said the draft pages he received from his predecessor are extremely powerful, and that the work “of four hands” is nearly complete. He also told the Council members that he would be working on the post-Synodal Exhortation during the month of August, and that the document will be ready for the closing of the Year of Faith. The Holy Father also discussed the need to recover a sane vision of the family and a healthy anthropology, saying that the crisis of the family is a serious problem that needs to be addressed by the Church’s pastors and teachers acting in concert.
Below, please find Vatican Radio’s English translation of Pope Francis’ prepared remarks.

[…]

Read them there.

Year of Faith! Remember? Year of Faith?

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Of Devils and Agencies and Metadata and You

Long before the scandal about government snooping and gathering of metadata broke, I wrote a post (HERE) about Pope Francis’ mentions of the Devil, the Enemy of the soul.

Consider the way angels can gather “metadata” on us and build an accurate profile of each of us such that they pretty much anticipation what we think and will do even though they cannot read our minds or change our will.

Here’s an excerpt:

[Angels/devils] never sleep, never tire, are never distracted, have no need to travel from point a to b, and they never miss what you are up to.

Think this through.

Imagine what sort of profile on you some government agency could put together.

Imagine that government agencies wanted to build a psychological profile of you, much as the FBI might when they use clues and evidence to hunt down an unknown serial killer.

So these government agents … just to make this fun, let’s call it The Agency (under Obama’s fourth term), teamed up with his newly minted Domestic Security Force, are profiling Catholics… because they are probably terrorists and dissidents and refuse to worship Moloch and offer sacrifices of incense to the statue of the POTUS.

The Agency and DSF start to plot your movements through your mobile phone as you move in and out of cells which they monitor to triangulate your location.  They learn something about you through your patterns of travel.  They learn about your tastes and interests through your purchasing history.  They monitor your calls, where you go on the internet, what you write and read in your email and on webpages.  They look at all your online transactions. Through your credit card records they hunt up the actual receipts and examine what you bought at every store…  including those embarrassing things.
After all, you leave amazingly information-rich and detailed trails and clues to who you are with every move and purchase.

The Agency and DSF review all your library checkouts, your magazine subscriptions, your movie going habits, your DVD choices through Netflix or digital downloads through iTunes.  They watch your channel selections through your cable or satellite. All this information can be mined.  They watch your every interaction with your friends… and strangers too, for that matter, with listening devices and cameras.  After gathering all this information, the Agency’s profiling experts build a picture of you, get into your head.   They figure out what you are about, who you are, and what you going to do next.

They are merely humans with a lot of bits of information.

How much better can fallen angels, the demons do this?

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